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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 24 2010 21:16 GMT
#821
caller ran a game that actually finished?
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 23:35:52
December 24 2010 23:27 GMT
#822
On December 25 2010 03:22 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 00:48 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I thought martyrdom wasn't tolerated in TL mafia? It directly violates one of the most important rules of the game:

2. Betraying your role and ruining the game for everyone by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.

It sucks to watch that game go from 'meh' to 'not too bad' to 'what the fuck?' in a matter of days because of a few players.

**It sucks to watch any TL mafia game do the above.

Lol...

Did you not play in Callers "Three Kingdoms" game? Lol...Mad funny because everyone betrayed there win condition. Hesmyrr for god mode of the game. haha

On December 25 2010 06:16 annul wrote:
caller ran a game that actually finished?

Could you guys please stop trolling the Ban List thread? This kind of post really isn't appropriate here.
Uff Da
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 25 2010 01:15 GMT
#823
On December 25 2010 03:00 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 12:03 Kenpachi wrote:
Im sitting out of RoL's Team mini mafia

It's a mini game, so you're going to have to clear that with RoL first.
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 21:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think warning for chaoser, he wasn't in my games though. I would like him to play in TMM3 as a vet though.

I don't think anyone else is arguing for just a warning. However, if you really want him to play, just make your game not follow the ban list.

Well I would let kenpachi count it, but can he count the game if I let chaoser in?
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
December 25 2010 01:36 GMT
#824
On December 25 2010 10:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 03:00 Qatol wrote:
On December 24 2010 12:03 Kenpachi wrote:
Im sitting out of RoL's Team mini mafia

It's a mini game, so you're going to have to clear that with RoL first.
On December 24 2010 21:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think warning for chaoser, he wasn't in my games though. I would like him to play in TMM3 as a vet though.

I don't think anyone else is arguing for just a warning. However, if you really want him to play, just make your game not follow the ban list.

Well I would let kenpachi count it, but can he count the game if I let chaoser in?

Yeah that's no problem. It is really just a matter of if you think missing this game is enough to count as sitting out a game.
Uff Da
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 25 2010 02:33 GMT
#825
can i have flamewheel's game count towards one of my games?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 25 2010 17:50 GMT
#826
On December 25 2010 10:36 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 10:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On December 25 2010 03:00 Qatol wrote:
On December 24 2010 12:03 Kenpachi wrote:
Im sitting out of RoL's Team mini mafia

It's a mini game, so you're going to have to clear that with RoL first.
On December 24 2010 21:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think warning for chaoser, he wasn't in my games though. I would like him to play in TMM3 as a vet though.

I don't think anyone else is arguing for just a warning. However, if you really want him to play, just make your game not follow the ban list.

Well I would let kenpachi count it, but can he count the game if I let chaoser in?

Yeah that's no problem. It is really just a matter of if you think missing this game is enough to count as sitting out a game.

Hes missing a damn good opportunity to learn, and we know he could use it
sure count it!
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
December 25 2010 20:51 GMT
#827
On December 25 2010 11:33 chaoser wrote:
can i have flamewheel's game count towards one of my games?

Yep no problem.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 21:57:09
December 26 2010 21:55 GMT
#828
Marked as sitting out Mafia XXXV (because I know it is actually going to happen now):
tube
chaoser
ohN
ghrur

Kenpachi and Divinek, you said you would like to sit out a game, but did not mention XXXV. Please let me know if you would like to sit it out.

If I missed anyone, please let me know.
Uff Da
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 19:19:23
January 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#829
I just updated my Sign Ups for PYP3. If anyone is not on the ban list but is known for being lazy in game please PM me asap and let me know. Generally inactive players are also banned from my games.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 01 2011 21:38 GMT
#830
On January 02 2011 04:19 Ace wrote:
I just updated my Sign Ups for PYP3. If anyone is not on the ban list but is known for being lazy in game please PM me asap and let me know. Generally inactive players are also banned from my games.

How are you regulating the concept of "generally inactive players"? How inactive is inactive? I'm guessing someone like Kuja or Clazz makes the list easily, but how and where are you drawing the line?
Uff Da
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 02 2011 05:44 GMT
#831
Tevo was modkilled for inactivity in TL Mafia XXXV.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 02 2011 06:10 GMT
#832
On January 02 2011 14:44 flamewheel wrote:
Tevo was modkilled for inactivity in TL Mafia XXXV.

okay updated
Uff Da
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
January 07 2011 01:23 GMT
#833
Can I sit out Ace's PYP game and have it count to my two games? I should be unbanned after that right? sat out XXXV too
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 07 2011 02:04 GMT
#834
On January 07 2011 10:23 chaoser wrote:
Can I sit out Ace's PYP game and have it count to my two games? I should be unbanned after that right? sat out XXXV too

Sorry, you haven't finished sitting out XXXV. It isn't over. Also, I'm not certain we decided 2 games was the right amount. We'll figure it out when XXXV ends.
Uff Da
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
January 08 2011 03:01 GMT
#835
Insanious and Brocket have been modkilled in TL Mafia XXXV for inactivity.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
January 08 2011 06:48 GMT
#836
On January 08 2011 12:01 flamewheel wrote:
Insanious and Brocket have been modkilled in TL Mafia XXXV for inactivity.

Okay updated.
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-08 07:13:13
January 08 2011 07:07 GMT
#837
Mmmm so we need to make a final decision on chaoser. Just to remind people about what happened with him, he was modkilled for inactivity in 2 games at the same time. He is sitting out a game right now (Mafia XXXV) and is missing PYP3 as a result. Relevant posts (compressed a little bit):
On December 18 2010 17:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Additional Pokemafia bans:
Chaoser
So just extend Chaosers ban to 3 games I think. If he has an explanation (internet went out, family emergency, etc.) I'd take him off the banlist completely if annul can agree with that.

On December 18 2010 17:53 annul wrote:
/agree with drh above re: chaoser


On December 23 2010 10:48 chaoser wrote:
Hey guys, sorry for the inactivity, I was under heavy pressure to do well on my finals and had to pull 3 consecutive extra 6 hour emergency room shifts for school (had to cover for another student) and to be fair, I did vote in the pokemafia thread and then unvoted before the deadline and was active before that weekend or so. I've been active in all previous games and this was totally a one time thing =[.


On December 19 2010 00:57 Qatol wrote:
What do we want to do for someone who disappears while playing in 2 games at the same time? 2 modkills and a double ban sentence seems really harsh. I mean, the double ban sentence is really for repeat offenders, but Chaoser only went inactive 1 time. Plus he didn't sit out a game in between. I think it might be more appropriate to give a 2 game ban for this sort of thing. What does everyone else think?


Incognito wrote:
This is chaoser's first ban, correct? If so, I'd just say give him a 1 game ban and count the warning towards his next ban. i.e. next game is a 4 game ban instead of 3. I see this more as a genuine mistake. As far as I remember chaoser doesn't appear on my list of assumed inactives.
I'm not sure how much I like the 1 ban for each game policy. Its not like he could have voted in one game and not the other either. Double punishment for a single incident is kinda harsh.


On December 25 2010 03:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I think Chaoser should get off. Give him a lingering warning, that will be wiped off after his next game or next two or something.


Assuming no history of bans:
Poll: Punishment for 2 modkills at the same time?

1 game ban + warning after being taken off Ban List (6)
 
35%

2 game ban (5)
 
29%

1 game ban (4)
 
24%

3 game ban (1)
 
6%

other (please specify) (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Punishment for 2 modkills at the same time?

(Vote): 1 game ban
(Vote): 1 game ban + warning after being taken off Ban List
(Vote): 2 game ban
(Vote): 3 game ban
(Vote): other (please specify)


Uff Da
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 08 2011 22:06 GMT
#838
Generally speaking I believe if a person has no record of inactivity / being modkilled then the reason for their inactivity should be taken into question. If the reason for the inactivity leading to the modkill is reasonable (someone gets handed a last minute paper due in like 3 days from a prof, someone has a death in the family, etc...) ie things you can't control that will absorb your time completely a 1 game ban should be more than enough as it was never intended to happen to begin with.

If the reason for it is something lame like "sorry slept in, oh I forgot" or the like a 2 game ban + a warning after removal from the ban list would be more in line.


Now, in the case of chaoser I honestly think he should only have to sit out one game at most as his reason sounds pretty legit. 1 game ban at most for him.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
January 08 2011 22:40 GMT
#839
One offense, one game ban seems reasonable in this case. I don't think he should even have a warning that would apply to the next ban or anything.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 01:38:43
January 09 2011 01:36 GMT
#840
On January 08 2011 15:48 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 12:01 flamewheel wrote:
Insanious and Brocket have been modkilled in TL Mafia XXXV for inactivity.

Okay updated.

PM from and response to Insanious dealing with his "voting but not posting" modkill.


I do have to apologize for that--unfortunately that's Incognito that didn't do the aforementioned modkilling, so in fairness I'll make it so you aren't punished on the ban list for this.

Either way, these rules (must post and must vote) may seem slightly arbitrary, but the purpose of these "activity requirements" is, well, to promote activity. Even though you did vote, you did not post in the main thread. Inactivity is a pain to everybody. As the host, I don't like seeing people not show interest in the game. As a player, I hate seeing an empty thread.
Original Message From Insanious:
I hate to post? I voted... you didn't mod kill 5 people before for not posting, why are you mod killing people now?

Show nested quote +
Original Message From flamewheel:
You haven't posted in the thread for this cycle. If you do not do so before 10:00 EST you will fail to meet activity requirements and thus be modkilled.



There needs to be some new way of dealing with these increasingly prevalent and aggravating activity (or the lack thereof) issues. Too many people have simply voted/posted "as so not to get modkilled." If I am to host games in the future, I'll be following in Ace's stead and not accepting people that I know will not be active.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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