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On March 08 2010 15:45 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Fuck it, guess I gotta kill Incognito. Anyone advertising playing around behind the scenes is a fucking loon. Starting to think you are beyond help. Or red trying out an insane strategy. You want to shoot everyone because they haven't shared every PM with you? Medics for example don't want to post their role in the thread, why is that so hard to comprehend? Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
How can you claim shit like this when the number of reds is not even known?!?! WTF man... Incognito's plan makes sense. Follow it. Right now it is our best and only reasonable alternative to chaos.
I DONT WANT ANYONE PMING! MEDICS SHOULDNT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE UNLESS ITS PUBLIC!
dur?
Aces kill list:
Shockey
Incognito
citizen
Anyone trying confirmed townie PM shit is instant dead. Fuck that.
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Wow....-_-
So I spend today at work and I'm labeled inactive. Sorry guys, fri/sat/sun I'm gone for a lil over 10 hours. So go eat a dick or two, god dayum.
On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
So in Soviet Russia, we role claim publicly!?
So wait...Shockeyy.....Who claimed publicly...Just gets killed for claiming medic?!
HOLY FIZZUCK I THINK I WAS JUST MIND FUCKED....
Guys, I think that is retarded....But at any rate, whatever, kill him lol. It will surely make for some epic lulz. While you're at it, kill Johnny. I don't think he's very trustworthy either.
Oh, and whoever said my posts were the equivalent of "QFT," yea? I was showing I agreed with the plan. I was allowing myself to be part of the discussion on what plan we should follow, and showing my agreement. My bad...
I vote for 789's Plan. (Random shooter lists).
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I'm a confirmed townie, PLZ PM ME, THANKS.
Fuck shit, Ace. Get a little power and you go insane.
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LET ME EMPHASIZE THIS, as I'm TERRIBLY confused at what Ace is trying to do.
Shockey CLAIMS med in thread
Shockey CLAIMS med in thread
Shockey CLAIMS med in thread
As Ace says doing (after pming of course, because that SEEMS logical as fuck)
So we kill him.....
well...put more into perspective, so ACE kills him?
Why...We were told to role claim in the thread, not privately. So we kill everyone that does? Or is this just cuz Shockey is shockey...
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On March 08 2010 16:01 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 15:45 citi.zen wrote:On March 08 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Fuck it, guess I gotta kill Incognito. Anyone advertising playing around behind the scenes is a fucking loon. Starting to think you are beyond help. Or red trying out an insane strategy. You want to shoot everyone because they haven't shared every PM with you? Medics for example don't want to post their role in the thread, why is that so hard to comprehend? On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
How can you claim shit like this when the number of reds is not even known?!?! WTF man... Incognito's plan makes sense. Follow it. Right now it is our best and only reasonable alternative to chaos. I DONT WANT ANYONE PMING! MEDICS SHOULDNT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE UNLESS ITS PUBLIC! dur? Aces kill list: Shockey Incognito citizen Anyone trying confirmed townie PM shit is instant dead. Fuck that.
Thats the worst list you can come up with. ~_~
-Killing shockeyy¿ werent you asking people to claim¿ are you stupid or something¿
-Incognito¿ well its fishy to ask for roles, but it is not his fault if someone is stupid enough to give it. This has happened also 100 times with different outcomes. Just dont roleclaim privately.
-If you want to prove yourself townie ACE i ask you to hit JeeJee. Would be nice if JeeJee hits Ace too. What about that¿
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nah shockeyy gets shot because he said I should believe he is medic because:
1.) he saved me last night (I didn't get hit)
2.) he's posting it privately so I should trust him even tho I warned him publicly about this
3.) he has to be a legit medic
Right...
Incognito is getting shot because he's trying to play the game behind the scenes. Thats inherently scummy behavior. Keeps too much information outside of the town.
To make it worse I could have sworn we all realized having the shooters randomize the kill list or having 2 scummy people shoot each other was better. The power of the town shouldn't be in one person's hand this game. Nobody can be confirmed.
Wasn't Incognito kinda like anti-foolishness and their all chummy now? Incognito claims he took a hit last night, so in fact we should trust him...seriously?
You know the more I think about it, the less I like this. I feel like he's trying to force a major disaster here. He probably would do some shit like have his scum buddies kill 1 player, and then claim he was also hit last night. This was nobody else can claim they were hit and he looks legit.
hmmm...
And then Foolishness "vouches" for him out of no where.
Man this isn't looking good v_v
You know what. I'll kill Shockeyy another day if he doesn't die tonight.
It's down to Foolishness and Incognito. This "lets get a confirmed innocent circle even though we can do it through shooting better" idea reeks of scumminess. Absolutely filthy. I think they realized the shooting people plan was pure ownage and are trying to throw things off track.
Major Fos - Incognito, Foolishness.
After all that discussion about having players shoot, now you want to come out of the blue with some dumb confirmation plan? Not buying it. It's so inferior to what was proposed before.
Ugh, then Shockeyy tried so hard to sell the bit that he protected me. Ugh this smelling awful.
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On March 08 2010 16:08 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 16:01 Ace wrote:On March 08 2010 15:45 citi.zen wrote:On March 08 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Fuck it, guess I gotta kill Incognito. Anyone advertising playing around behind the scenes is a fucking loon. Starting to think you are beyond help. Or red trying out an insane strategy. You want to shoot everyone because they haven't shared every PM with you? Medics for example don't want to post their role in the thread, why is that so hard to comprehend? On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
How can you claim shit like this when the number of reds is not even known?!?! WTF man... Incognito's plan makes sense. Follow it. Right now it is our best and only reasonable alternative to chaos. I DONT WANT ANYONE PMING! MEDICS SHOULDNT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE UNLESS ITS PUBLIC! dur? Aces kill list: Shockey Incognito citizen Anyone trying confirmed townie PM shit is instant dead. Fuck that. Thats the worst list you can come up with. ~_~ -Killing shockeyy¿ werent you asking people to claim¿ are you stupid or something¿ -Incognito¿ well its fishy to ask for roles, but it is not his fault if someone is stupid enough to give it. This has happened also 100 times with different outcomes. Just dont roleclaim privately. -If you want to prove yourself townie ACE i ask you to hit JeeJee. Would be nice if JeeJee hits Ace too. What about that¿
Are you slow?
ORDERED CLAIM LIST. That means you claim when it's your turn. That means you claim when there's a gun to your face. You prove why we should believe your blue.
He claimed because I called him out in the PMs. Seriously...you buy that shit? lol. So a real medic would claim medic instead of claiming town. Ok sherlock, good shit.
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Foolishness
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On March 08 2010 16:10 Ace wrote:
nah shockeyy gets shot because he said I should believe he is medic because:
1.) he saved me last night (I didn't get hit)
2.) he's posting it privately so I should trust him even tho I warned him publicly about this
3.) he has to be a legit medic
Right...
Incognito is getting shot because he's trying to play the game behind the scenes. Thats inherently scummy behavior. Keeps too much information outside of the town.
To make it worse I could have sworn we all realized having the shooters randomize the kill list or having 2 scummy people shoot each other was better. The power of the town shouldn't be in one person's hand this game. Nobody can be confirmed.
Wasn't Incognito kinda like anti-foolishness and their all chummy now? Incognito claims he took a hit last night, so in fact we should trust him...seriously?
You know the more I think about it, the less I like this. I feel like he's trying to force a major disaster here. He probably would do some shit like have his scum buddies kill 1 player, and then claim he was also hit last night. This was nobody else can claim they were hit and he looks legit.
hmmm...
And then Foolishness "vouches" for him out of no where.
Man this isn't looking good v_v
You know what. I'll kill Shockeyy another day if he doesn't die tonight.
It's down to Foolishness and Incognito. This "lets get a confirmed innocent circle even though we can do it through shooting better" idea reeks of scumminess. Absolutely filthy. I think they realized the shooting people plan was pure ownage and are trying to throw things off track.
Major Fos - Incognito, Foolishness.
After all that discussion about having players shoot, now you want to come out of the blue with some dumb confirmation plan? Not buying it. It's so inferior to what was proposed before.
Ugh, then Shockeyy tried so hard to sell the bit that he protected me. Ugh this smelling awful.
You know, I never said I was against your kill list plan. In fact, I have never said anything against you at all this game. I'm pretty sure if you and Incog were working together on this the kill list would actually go much more smoothly. In all honesty I think the overall plan is a pretty good idea.
Do you even have the time to waste bother killing us when you know we're innocent?
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On March 08 2010 16:10 Ace wrote:
nah shockeyy gets shot because he said I should believe he is medic because:
1.) he saved me last night (I didn't get hit)
2.) he's posting it privately so I should trust him even tho I warned him publicly about this
3.) he has to be a legit medic
Right...
Incognito is getting shot because he's trying to play the game behind the scenes. Thats inherently scummy behavior. Keeps too much information outside of the town.
To make it worse I could have sworn we all realized having the shooters randomize the kill list or having 2 scummy people shoot each other was better. The power of the town shouldn't be in one person's hand this game. Nobody can be confirmed.
Wasn't Incognito kinda like anti-foolishness and their all chummy now? Incognito claims he took a hit last night, so in fact we should trust him...seriously?
You know the more I think about it, the less I like this. I feel like he's trying to force a major disaster here. He probably would do some shit like have his scum buddies kill 1 player, and then claim he was also hit last night. This was nobody else can claim they were hit and he looks legit.
hmmm...
And then Foolishness "vouches" for him out of no where.
Man this isn't looking good v_v
You know what. I'll kill Shockeyy another day if he doesn't die tonight.
It's down to Foolishness and Incognito. This "lets get a confirmed innocent circle even though we can do it through shooting better" idea reeks of scumminess. Absolutely filthy. I think they realized the shooting people plan was pure ownage and are trying to throw things off track.
Major Fos - Incognito, Foolishness.
After all that discussion about having players shoot, now you want to come out of the blue with some dumb confirmation plan? Not buying it. It's so inferior to what was proposed before.
Ugh, then Shockeyy tried so hard to sell the bit that he protected me. Ugh this smelling awful.
Shockey didn't say he saved you. He said he protected you. I.e. You had medic protection, but it wasn't needed. Role claiming to you was retarded yes, but that's because you have some severe issues. Like being CIA. I'd believe you were townie, EXCEPT the way you argue is insane. You state people have said one thing, but they never said it. That's like the second or third time this game, and citizen called you on it once earlier.
Even if claiming to incog is the wrong thing...Why the fuck do you care? Remember, blues don't matter Ace. Especially to you. You are God level. You are above needing blues in a game. You can take on the Mafia all by your god damned self. Hell, YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THEM TO PUBLICLY ROLE CLAIM.
What's it matter if they claim to incog in private. Atleast you know if blues die to kill incog, amirite?
Are people seriously listening to Ace scream bull shit at them?
I wonder how many games you've been med protected and saved by it...
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On March 08 2010 16:12 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 16:08 Malongo wrote:On March 08 2010 16:01 Ace wrote:On March 08 2010 15:45 citi.zen wrote:On March 08 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Fuck it, guess I gotta kill Incognito. Anyone advertising playing around behind the scenes is a fucking loon. Starting to think you are beyond help. Or red trying out an insane strategy. You want to shoot everyone because they haven't shared every PM with you? Medics for example don't want to post their role in the thread, why is that so hard to comprehend? On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
How can you claim shit like this when the number of reds is not even known?!?! WTF man... Incognito's plan makes sense. Follow it. Right now it is our best and only reasonable alternative to chaos. I DONT WANT ANYONE PMING! MEDICS SHOULDNT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE UNLESS ITS PUBLIC! dur? Aces kill list: Shockey Incognito citizen Anyone trying confirmed townie PM shit is instant dead. Fuck that. Thats the worst list you can come up with. ~_~ -Killing shockeyy¿ werent you asking people to claim¿ are you stupid or something¿ -Incognito¿ well its fishy to ask for roles, but it is not his fault if someone is stupid enough to give it. This has happened also 100 times with different outcomes. Just dont roleclaim privately. -If you want to prove yourself townie ACE i ask you to hit JeeJee. Would be nice if JeeJee hits Ace too. What about that¿ Are you slow? ORDERED CLAIM LIST. That means you claim when it's your turn. That means you claim when there's a gun to your face. You prove why we should believe your blue. He claimed because I called him out in the PMs. Seriously...you buy that shit? lol. So a real medic would claim medic instead of claiming town. Ok sherlock, good shit.
Good job fucking Lara Croft: how many times have people claimed to you because they think you are a good player and not mafia.¿ Do i have to tell you how many players have been caught because they shared theyr roles expecting to have a town circle¿ You are just stepping on your fucking boobs angelina: even if he is mafia we can pin him down later, better start targeting another inactive fucker to get other players claiming. And dont suck your own boobs.
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On March 08 2010 16:22 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2010 16:12 Ace wrote:On March 08 2010 16:08 Malongo wrote:On March 08 2010 16:01 Ace wrote:On March 08 2010 15:45 citi.zen wrote:On March 08 2010 15:25 Ace wrote:
Fuck it, guess I gotta kill Incognito. Anyone advertising playing around behind the scenes is a fucking loon. Starting to think you are beyond help. Or red trying out an insane strategy. You want to shoot everyone because they haven't shared every PM with you? Medics for example don't want to post their role in the thread, why is that so hard to comprehend? On March 08 2010 15:30 Ace wrote:
Town - we do not need confirmed innocents at all. None. This game can be won by straight up shootouts and Role Claims. Everything should be IN THE THREAD.
Stack everyone who can shoot vs everyone who can't shoot.
When all thats sorted and the goons are dead, kill the GF with normal scumhunting tactics.
Having anyone "confirmed" besides them shooting some slore in the face is nonsense.
How can you claim shit like this when the number of reds is not even known?!?! WTF man... Incognito's plan makes sense. Follow it. Right now it is our best and only reasonable alternative to chaos. I DONT WANT ANYONE PMING! MEDICS SHOULDNT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE UNLESS ITS PUBLIC! dur? Aces kill list: Shockey Incognito citizen Anyone trying confirmed townie PM shit is instant dead. Fuck that. Thats the worst list you can come up with. ~_~ -Killing shockeyy¿ werent you asking people to claim¿ are you stupid or something¿ -Incognito¿ well its fishy to ask for roles, but it is not his fault if someone is stupid enough to give it. This has happened also 100 times with different outcomes. Just dont roleclaim privately. -If you want to prove yourself townie ACE i ask you to hit JeeJee. Would be nice if JeeJee hits Ace too. What about that¿ Are you slow? ORDERED CLAIM LIST. That means you claim when it's your turn. That means you claim when there's a gun to your face. You prove why we should believe your blue. He claimed because I called him out in the PMs. Seriously...you buy that shit? lol. So a real medic would claim medic instead of claiming town. Ok sherlock, good shit. Good job fucking Lara Croft: how many times have people claimed to you because they think you are a good player and not mafia.¿ Do i have to tell you how many players have been caught because they shared theyr roles expecting to have a town circle¿ You are just stepping on your fucking boobs angelina: even if he is mafia we can pin him down later, better start targeting another inactive fucker to get other players claiming. And dont suck your own boobs.
Almost exactly what I said. If blues start dieing, kill Incog.
Duh.
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Okay...Well good night fellas.
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On March 08 2010 15:44 JeeJee wrote:
i don't see the point in answering that question
also did i miss something? incog was FoS'ing foolishness and now they're all buddy-buddy? what happened
how can foolishness vouch for the medic that supposedly protected incog? did i miss something here??
Oops I was going to post a long post including a memo on Foolishness, but didn't get around to getting the long post up. So here's the Foolishness part:
After a few pms, I realized he wouldn't have given me a critical piece of info if he was really mafia. To me he's pretty legit for now.
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Hit analysis post:
Posts located in the Archives. See how good this is?
789- dead townie
-Trigger happy doesnt know who he is
-Agrees with Ace about killing those who randomkill without town consensus
-Opposes some parts of the list plan because blues will be outed
-Defends the idea that Chez was obviously the Nazi
-Agrees with inverted list
-Proposes the rotating list idea
-Points out flaws in sidesprang's plan
In bold is what I think got 789 killed. I'm leaning toward the rotating list idea though. Mafia may have been trying to get rid of someone who criticized sidesprang, but it seems a stretch to me. The comments toward sidesprang weren't very hostile, so either the mafia are paranoid or this isn't the reason for his death. The rotating list idea was very good, so its understandable why mafia would want to kill him. Very pro-town behavior, and shows that he was thinking, which is always bad if you're mafia.
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Incognito- alive, claims he was hit
I don't really want to go through each of my posts, especially since I'm not dead yet so it, but if Ace kills me, you know what to look through. Every single post is there.
Basic points: Red Army Archives. Very pro-town. Too bad people aren't keeping up with it. Inactive list to determine who shoots. Plan was shot down, but it was pro-town enough in my opinion. Accuses JeeJee. And that's all of day 1. My personal opinion is that the mafia hit me because I was pretty active and was giving off very pro-town vibes. The Medics saw this too, so the hit probably isn't due to my accusation of JeeJee.
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On March 08 2010 15:10 Malongo wrote:
All i can say is:
-Shooting people that already shot: stupid. Theres no reason to kill a guy that has biggest chance to be town than a non shooter.
-Shooting blueclaimers: stupid. We were suposedly asking people to claim when they couldnt hit.
If you want to take your gun and shot randomly at nemy, foolishness, l10f and all those lurkers out there do it: full support. Note that this applies to the stupid hit on L too, even hitting Abenson-Dokozo was better.
Shooting ppl that already shot = stupid, i agree on this for now. I think the best course of action is to just pretend there is no CIA untill a later moment. Because the chance of catching him this early on is just to low, atleast with ppl just shooting randomly like now.
Shooting blueclaimers = stupid. Don't really agree on this, whenever someone claims something they give us information, we need to read that player, why he did it and what does he benefit from it. Also if that player is just stupid or actually making a valid play. As for now i do not think shocckeyy is mafia, as i played with him last game and he does not seem like a guy who will roleclaim medic while beeing mafia(unless he is beeing told by some of the other mafia). I feel the chance of him beeing medic is far greater than him beeing mafia.
And for the last paragaph you wrote, that is just flat out wrong. If we do not have a system we will gain so much less information. People should NOT kill unless its a general town concensus about player X killing player Y. I still do not think a random list is the best way of doing it, because i think, if we think about who should do the kill, we will find a better guy than just randomingI mean randoming is like setteling for average, and im not a fan of average.
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Last post before bed: Ace.
Lets face it, we're most likely on the same side. I understand your zealotry for policy lynches, but in my opinion, we should be trying to actually play this game by finding the mafia, not looking for the cure-all solution and promote mechanical play. In this case, I'm convinced that if we can accept that we're on the same side and try to work together, the mafia will be dead within two days. So instead of going rambo on us and taking the law into your own hands, will you listen to reason and help the town win this game?
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On March 08 2010 18:10 Incognito wrote:
Last post before bed: Ace.
Lets face it, we're most likely on the same side. I understand your zealotry for policy lynches, but in my opinion, we should be trying to actually play this game by finding the mafia, not looking for the cure-all solution and promote mechanical play. In this case, I'm convinced that if we can accept that we're on the same side and try to work together, the mafia will be dead within two days. So instead of going rambo on us and taking the law into your own hands, will you listen to reason and help the town win this game?
Hmm sorry I meant we'd find all the mafia within two days. We don't have the kp to kill them all in that amount of time, since I'm assuming we have maybe 4-6 mafia.
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On March 08 2010 12:23 Incognito wrote:
Calculating XeliN's pro-town % for 3 games in a row requires you to know the percentage chance of being pro-town in each game individually. Role counts are not disclosed this game. So the only way that you could have known this percentage is if you are mafia. Explain yourself.
I think you missed something in square brackets there chief. But anyway lets put this thing to rest now it was silly joke aimed at Xelin and people didnt get it either because they dont understand or because they didnt read properly.
One big issue I have to raise right now before I post what I think about certain people is this: Is there a point in creating general strategies, plays to follow throughout the game, if we have had two random killings so far and Ace is claiming he will shoot someone next day no matter what? The strength of these plans such as 789's is that it must be consistently followed throughout the game. Come day 3 if Ace decides to shoot shockeyy or Incog or whatever that further pulls us away from the plan and now it will take even more days to get back on schedule to enforce its rules. Basically I propose to do away with such plans and just take the time every night to evaluate stuff on a case by case basis since its pretty clear this game's gonna come down to f5-ing like crazy to make sure we dont get fucked by the cia/another random killing.
So here's what I think of the past night:
1) Incognito claims he got hit. Two possibilities. Either he is green and he was in fact killed, because he's the only person claiming a hit and a significant amount of time has passed after the claim without a counterclaim. So if someone else got hit and they are just watching Incog do the claiming for them, you are obviously retarded - so assuming the mafia sent two hits its pretty clear incognito's a townie. The other possibility is the mafia sending in one hit and Incognito playing us. Obviously this sounds more far fetched than the other option, but even last game there were some people on my Sumiyoshi team that wanted to kill only 1 person in the first night to confuse stuff. So in conclusion I'm leaning more towards the first option, that he is green, but if he was in fact red and wanted to mix things up he is a player that definitely has the confidence to pull off something like this - which is the reason we cant rule out the second option for now.
2) Shockey's medic claim. This strikes me as very strange. The guy's played two games so far with me and in both he's been very calm and collected. So claiming medic, because Ace was pointing the fos on him, is extremely out of character and not to mention stupid. I mean Ace has already accused at least half of the players at some point in the game, which is good for generating discussion, and the fact that Shockeyy succumbed to the pressure so easily this time is suspicious. I dont know if he has played any previous games I havent been a part of, but if this is the first time he's playing blue then I can sort of see why he might freak out. So here's what I propose to do with him: DO NOT SHOOT HIM ON THE NEXT DAY. Why? There's no reason to believe his medic claim is fake (unprovoked and unnecessary sure but not fake) and so the mafia will obviously want to kill him. If we make it clear that we're not shooting him they cannot rely on the town doing their dirty work for them and that leaves them with two options.
a) They do not shoot shockeyy at all to confuse us - in this case we're benefitting from having a medic alive for a large part of the game
b) They kill shockeyy tonight - still beneficial to us, since it means we will not be wasting our day execution on someone the reds plan to hit anyway.
3) Who do I think we shoud kill: l10f. I've said it before a large proportion of the reds are likely to be semi-inactive. This guy has two posts once the game started. The first one is useless but the second one is useful to us in a way that shows something scummy about him.
On March 08 2010 10:25 l10f wrote:Wth, I'm gone for a few hours and night and day both pass 
He expresses disappointment that he has missed some of the action in the game, so he is basically implying that he has a big desire to play the game. Yet 6 hours pass after his post and he still hasnt contributed anything. Its a clear case of him wanting to appear townie at first sight yet not saying anything incriminating.
PS. Incognito some of your last posts are making me shift suspicion towards you.
Firstly you wrongly call me out on something but after that put it down straight away; I mean I played in your last game we both know that even if I hadn't written the part in the square brackets, that you missread, im not that retarded to give myself away if I were red. You do something similar with foolishness. It looks like you are raising suspicion just for the sake of it - to look productive but it is unfounded.
Secondly you send me this PM:
From: Incognito [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Red Army Mafya
Date: 3/8/10 16:42
You've been a bit quiet recently, but you seemed to have some ideas previously in the thread. What do you think about recent events? I'm a bit suspicious of l10f and sidesprang. What do you think?
Your first sentence is wrong on both accounts. Number one I have been quiet because I was sleeping; you can gather that quite easily from my location. Number two you state that I had expressed ideas on who to kill in my previous posts. Well guess what you were the one advocating the use of the archives and you havent been reading them too well. Basically up to this point I have not posted anything against another player and all I have done is 1) get some clarification on some events 2) agree with ace's subsequently 789's plans 3) defend myself for that stats misunderstanding. How you got that my previous posts contained some analysis against players I cannot gather. Now I always thought you were a clever guy but these two silly mistakes in your reasoning, evidenced by the beginning of the PM, are very non-characteristic of you. It seems like you were just inventing reasons to fish for my role in PM's
Lastly why do you PM me asking with my thoughts on some guys. Its clear that there is a significant chance you are scum (by 1)) and so writing PM's as if it was already "prooven" that you were green is highly suspicious. This looks like an attempt to subconsciously convince players he's green.
What do you say in defense?
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BTW for point 1) I mean " Either he is green and he was in fact hit", not killed since he's obviously still alive.
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From: Incognito [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Red Army Mafya
Date: 3/8/10 16:47
Hey there. You had a post up there in the beginning of the game, and then went into hiding. Just because people ignored your first post doesn't mean we don't like hearing your ideas. I've been thinking about the recent events and have come up with l10f and CynanMachae for suspects. What do you think?
You're not the only one. My guess is he is spamming pm's to find someone who screws up, or something like that.
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