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Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 07 2010 03:51 GMT

#281

On March 07 2010 12:48 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think we should definitely not hit malongo
maybe the DTs can PM their findings to a trustworthy name and then we go from there?

no. Everyone needs to learn how to play the game in the thread and stop this pming shit. Too many games a ton of information is lost that way.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

March 07 2010 03:51 GMT

#282

On March 07 2010 12:45 L wrote:

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I think the inverted list is perfectly fine for proceeding with, but I don't agree that our hit should be Malongo given that hitters are probably legit.

I actually agree on both counts. The inverted random list would still be random, so Ace should be cool with that. + Show Spoiler +

There is a small chance both Ace and L are red I suppose, but that seems way too complicated of a strat at this stage in the game, so I'll file it under "highly unlikely".

And yeah, as I said above, no reason to kill Malongo now.

789

United States959 Posts

March 07 2010 03:52 GMT

#283

Inverted list sounds good to me. It was proposed by malongo who is likely green ... so it follows with the "list proposed by a confirmed green" way of thinking. As for the first hit ... who if not malongo? I don't think there is anyone who has really be suspicious as of yet.

~OpZ~

United States3652 Posts

March 07 2010 03:52 GMT

#284

Well I'm for Ace's plan for the most part. I'd rather decide on a better kill since Malongo is likely a green....A retard, yes...But green none the less, and we might as well keep him since we get to keep our number advantage over the Ukranians for longer.

~OpZ~

United States3652 Posts

March 07 2010 03:54 GMT

#285

Yea, the inverted of Ace's list is fine with me too. Seems good guys...Fucking Pm some night actions god dayum!

Abenson

Canada4122 Posts

March 07 2010 03:55 GMT

#286

well..
if we're going with inverted it'll take a while for me to do the execute thing
i'm about to go to sleep, so that's like 8 hours of inactivity -,-"

789

United States959 Posts

March 07 2010 03:57 GMT

#287

That's fine abenson, there is no guarantee the night will even be over within 8 hours. Even if it is .. it gives us some time to hammer out who will be executed.

Canada4732 Posts

March 07 2010 03:58 GMT

#288

On March 07 2010 12:50 Ace wrote:
Role Claiming is good, just that no one does it because not many players have seen how powerful it truly is. You also need to do it at the right time. I'm calling for a massive ordered role claim, 1 by 1 pretty much so we can ez win this game.

No need to invert the list since I'm going to kill Malongo anyway. Just switch me with dozko, or bump me ahead of him and keep it going.

You rail on Malongo for acting "anti town" by killing a player who is in and of himself 1kp. I assume this is because he didn't 'consult with town' which carried the risk of someone killing him. Then you ignore a growing town consensus that we should use the inverted list and say you're going to kill malongo? I will kill you if you kill Malongo on day 2.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 07 2010 04:00 GMT

#289

Guys in case I do die tonight remember to update this list throughout the game:

Players that have killed

Malongo

Next Player to kill - Target

Ace - Malongo if no one else is as scummy as he is

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 07 2010 04:02 GMT

#290

On March 07 2010 12:58 L wrote:

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Cool. And JeeJee is going to kill you.

I didn't even ignore the town's idea for the inverted list.

Thats lie #1 right there.

Malongo wasn't at risk of dying. In fact he was the one provoking the idea of killing Chezinu.

So you're wrong on that right there.

Want to make up some more stuff?

Canada4732 Posts

March 07 2010 04:18 GMT

#291

If you aren't ignoring the list, then you know that Abenson's first to the plate and that you're getting DT checked. And no, it wasn't a lie; you specifically asked for Dokzo to go tomorrow, which is using the original list.

Secondly; chez could kill malongo, yet you're saying there's no risk of dying? Do you understand how this game format works? The moment you bring an accusation against anyone, the majority of players can counter-kill you immediately in response. Malongo stated he was going to kill chez before the game even started and acted upon his statement after Chez made himself pretty obv in pms.

So no, as usual I'm right on both counts.

If JeeJee kills me, so be it. I'm still killing you if you kill Malongo.

The entire idea of calling what Malongo did scummy was on the basis that town couldn't talk about it; Now that we're in a forced situation wherein we can talk, you're refusing to listen to the majority of posters who are disagreeing with our first hit target. Additionally, you're not even following your own plan.

I mean, throw me a bone here. I didn't want to kill you this game, so don't force me to.

Fishball

Canada4788 Posts

March 07 2010 04:27 GMT

#292

Just read my PM and noticed the game has started, but I have no idea wtf is going on.
Execute what?

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

March 07 2010 04:32 GMT

#293

I like the list idea, inverted or not. It gives kinda an exhaustive search for the blue/red group. The only hard part will be distinguishing the blue from red.

I dunno L, there should be repercussions for jumping the gun like that... at this point Malongo is just as good a target as anyone else.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 07 2010 04:33 GMT

#294

Really? Let me shut you up.

On Page 7-8 Malongo is clearly gunning for Chez. He even makes a false statement saying people are defending Chezinu.

On page 9 at 10:10 Caller starts the game.

At 10:11 Malongo tries to kill chezinu.

Really? Ok lets continue so this sinks in even more.

Chezinu tries to counter kill Malongo after Caller said it has to be in bold. Mind you this is long after I made it clear that killing for no reason will get you shot. This is the very first plan I proposed to the town, so how am I not following my own plan? You fail.

But lets continue.

Malongo tries to execute Chezinu again.

At 10:13 Caller says for fairness sake he isn't going to do count either one and the next one wins.

at 10:14 Chezinu posts and says:

I wont kill you malongo

If Malongo was in danger of dying right here, Chezinu had the chance to kill him. Chezinu just said he wouldn't kill him. So Malongo is NOT in danger.

Chezinu posts again.

Malongo posts right after him.

Neither one of them have posted an execute statement. Right, Malongo is surely in danger of dying.

At 10:15 Malongo goes for Chezinu's head.

And during this entire exchange Malongo was in danger even after Chezinu said he wasn't going to kill him, and when he had TWO chances to do it? Please read the thread.

Now on to the rest of your illogical arguments:

If I was ignoring the list I'd just shoot you. But since the very first thing I said is that players who shoot first are going to get shot, I'm sticking by it. After I do that, if we have no more situations with idiots doing that then we can get on with the list any order people choose. But anyone doing anti-town behavior is subject to getting shot.

Also notice dozko said he might not be here in time for the start of day and then I said if anything I'd switch places or bump ahead of him and confirm myself. So how is that fishy in any way?

Also please stop using words like majority to sell your point. It's pretty shitty playing. The majority of the town hasn't decided on anything. You should know better than that.

Please post more though or come up with a plan of your own. I'm the most pro-town player at the moment and I said I'm going to kill which makes me just as likely confirmed town as Malongo and your going to shoot me. Brilliant really. Either way seeing JeeJee kill you for being stupid is going to make my day ^_^

Ace

United States16096 Posts

March 07 2010 04:35 GMT

#295

On March 07 2010 13:32 meeple wrote:
I like the list idea, inverted or not. It gives kinda an exhaustive search for the blue/red group. The only hard part will be distinguishing the blue from red.

I dunno L, there should be repercussions for jumping the gun like that... at this point Malongo is just as good a target as anyone else.

Blues should roleclaim, and then prove their legit. If there is no counterclaim and the DT trusts its not worth a rolecheck on the player then we keep it moving.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

March 07 2010 04:46 GMT

#296

why won't the reds kill blue players who roleclaim? The reds will know if the claim is legit, no? Are we relying heavily on medics here?

meeple

Canada10211 Posts

March 07 2010 04:48 GMT

#297

On March 07 2010 13:46 citi.zen wrote:
why won't the reds kill blue players who roleclaim? The reds will know if the claim is legit, no? Are we relying heavily on medics here?

I think Ace is saying that the blue roles are somewhat less important with an exhaustive search like this... especially since we're relying heavily on behavior patterns and not clues.
It seems that we'll rely on medic protection a lot, we'll also be alot more directed about it, since we know who to protect.

Canada4732 Posts

March 07 2010 04:53 GMT

#298

On March 07 2010 13:33 Ace wrote:
Really? Let me shut you up.

On Page 7-8 Malongo is clearly gunning for Chez. He even makes a false statement saying people are defending Chezinu.

On page 9 at 10:10 Caller starts the game.

At 10:11 Malongo tries to kill chezinu.

Really? Ok lets continue so this sinks in even more.

Chezinu tries to counter kill Malongo after Caller said it has to be in bold. Mind you this is long after I made it clear that killing for no reason will get you shot. This is the very first plan I proposed to the town, so how am I not following my own plan? You fail.

But lets continue.

Malongo tries to execute Chezinu again.

At 10:13 Caller says for fairness sake he isn't going to do count either one and the next one wins.

at 10:14 Chezinu posts and says:

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I don't really give a shit. I'm going to shoot you if you shoot malongo. JeeJee can shoot me after that. Then we'll probably have 3 dead townies and a secret nazi dead. On the plus side, Malongo will live on in memory as the only one who actually performed a concretely pro-town move.

Your comment about dokzo? Irrelevant. Like, completely transparently irrelevant. If there's a list, you're going to let people skip their spot at will by playing afk?

Your statement that Malongo was going to kill chez prior to getting his role? Makes him look even more green.

Your statement that a grand total of 2 minutes of posts wherein chez is throwing a mass of pms around and says he won't kill malongo in one is indicative of malongo not being in danger of being killed? Rofl.

Maybe you forgot about this:

On March 07 2010 10:12 Caller wrote:
they have to be in bold for me to do it

On March 07 2010 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
execute: Malongo

Frankly I'm impressed that you think Malongo was in no danger of being killed. Incredibly impressed. You must be thinking FIVE THOUSAND STEPS AHEAD, because when i see someone put a formatted "i'm going to kill you post" in the thread less than a minute after being told how to format it, It would seem that maybe there was a credible death threat.

But lol, I guess you're right. Malongo was safe.

Anyways, to recap; I'm killing you if you kill Malongo. Start thinking about killing someone who isn't the closest thing we have to a confirmed townie.