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On February 27 2010 07:34 L wrote: responding to xelin
Everything in that post, so far ammounts to, "ive done this and that honest trust me, lols!"
You realize pretty much every post today amounts to either "I'm honest, trust me" or "He's untrustworthy, kill him". There's been almost zero work done besides that.
Wrong. I have posted clues, may be bad as they look but they are something, at least scamps and sidesprangs look pretty decent to me. I also posted that there are several clues pointing to plumbing, guess who has a plumber in his profile. Even better, i posted a list of guys that look very mafia from the voting pattern (6 of them abstained first two days and both mafia have consistently killed the other guys on that list). From there CYNANMACHAE is very likely to be mafia.
Pretty standard mafia mudslinging going on here. I was out all day so I'm going to post my team lists early tomorrow after they're complete. When I die and you guys realize how stupid you were to kill me, maybe you can salvage the game using the information I give you.
Yep, everything looks mafia in this game. Sorry but you look mafia the most and you have the pardon ability that is more likely to hurt the town more than to help it. And for the last time: if you were actually townie you would be the first to agree that lynching you is not stupid at all. I mean lets put it plain clear: mass pm calling to lynch redtooth against a checked mafia¿ SERIOUSLY¿¿¿
Also; if there's another legit detective out there, you should probably claim to town asap because a certain someone's credibility rests solidly on the fact that you haven't claimed.
If there is a DT out there keep your shit for you until you do in fact find mafia in wich case choose your mouth as you please.
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On February 27 2010 08:08 Scamp wrote:
I was starting to think that L and I might be two sides of the same coin, but his continual insistence to doing nothing (at least publicly) has doomed him in my eyes. If he's scumhunting in PMs then someone needs to step up and defend him.
He keeps mentioning me as a solid cluelink, even though there's only one clue that's actually solid toward me and even then he admitted that it's more likely to point toward Chezinu. Continually pointing the finger at me is not scumhunting.
I asked Foolishness and L to defend Chezinu over a day ago. Neither has stepped up to offer anything. So let me ask the seven people who are voting for me: why? What makes me the most likely candidate? Is it because L said that some clues point to me?
I've noted how I've been targeted, SERIOUSLY targeted by both mafia families. That claim simply hasn't been countered. I simply ask: where is the suspicion coming from? I am simply a green townie, and my history/actions should prove that.
Dont come here to defend yourself like that now.
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On February 27 2010 08:15 Scamp wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 07:56 L wrote:
Chez claims he's checked like 3-4 people who've flipped green, and that's cool. Maybe he's lying. Maybe he isn't. Regardless, the easiest way to see if he's lying is to kill scamp, but for some reason scamp/him are tied.
Additionally, targets like amber and tree.hugger, who have been playing incredibly obvious as mafia, or players like OhN, who have a ton of clues pointing to them but don't fucking post aren't being looked at. I still don't know why you insist that killing me sheds light on Chez. Did Chez check me and say I was anything? No he did not. All you have is one clue that could possibly point to either me or Chez, and that's it. So killing me doesn't exactly shed a great amount of light on him. I also find it difficult to believe that a DT with 4 checks can't find a mafia in this game.
On the other hand, if a bandwagon starts to go after OhN I'd be in support of that. I'd also support one against Tredmasta and Cynanmachae.
Thats the most stupid thing you may have said all game long and proves you have no fucking clue about how to play townie. In the most basic sense it says hey! i support virtually any last second badwagon so i dont get killed.
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On February 27 2010 08:54 L wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:35 Scamp wrote:
Foolishness your defense of Chez is "read the thread carefully." Instead, how about you provide anything to defend him, because I'm very confident he's not a DT.
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything? Ver's got a truckton of analysis done on tree.hugger, and his main point is one that becomes stronger every day. Tree.hugger just got raped in the last game because of inactivity. This game he posts that the town shouldn't be inactive, then GOES AFK FOR FOUR DAYS. The clues against him aren't perfect, but they never really are. Originally I didn't want to hit tree.hugger because OhNhas a 'tree' as a centerpoint of his profile. That changed recently when I figured out that the following clue (which seems like a gimme to finger shockey off of, given our previous discussions. I thought it would be odd for incog to throw out a blatant clue based directly on what we had fingered shockey for, so I looked through profiles again to see if anything caught my eye. Here's the profile bit: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." Here's the clue: Show nested quote +At home, l10f was busy compiling a list of suspects, frantic after his long night’s work. Fearing that his death was imminent, he proceeded to hide his findings in his house, hoping that some diligent townsperson would come along to find his work. Unfortunately, l10f did not know the nature of his fate. While hiding the last pieces of his information under the tile between the kitchen and the dining room, l10f thought he saw a shimmer of hope. Beyond the clouds in a distance l10f saw the sun piercing through the clouds. His hope soon turned into puzzlement when he remembered that it was 2am in the morning. Thinking that he still had some time before his death, l10f had no time to think as a lightning bolt struck from behind the cloud and sent an electric volt surging through his body. The whole house erupted into flames as a result of the lightning strike, and l10f knew that his work was in vain. As the light behind the clouds began to fade, l10f’s mind began to race as he thought of his new beginning in heaven… Links incredibly strongly to: Show nested quote +"No matter how dark the night, morning always comes, and our journey begins anew." The reason I haven't really posted this until today was that I was hoping tree.hugger would die so that I'd get clarification on whether or not ohN's clues are tree related or not. If that's so, then this could be shockey instead. The 2 am morning, however, as well as the our DT going to heaven and starting a journey anew seem pretty strong though. Anyways, I won't really be done getting candidates for every clue section until tomorrow because there are a number I'm still debating about. And Malongo, I know you put some work up, but you're a grand total of one person, and that doesn't really add up to the town as a whole trying to fucking do work. At least Fishball was regularly PMing me and trying to put together ideas and a plan to go forward.
I agree that the clue to treehugger is very good. I proposed a half decent plan but got shitblocked by a stupid mayor. No comments there. If you want me to pm you regularly you have to do better next time bro 
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On February 27 2010 09:40 Scamp wrote:
Wow Malongo. Just wow.
I agree strongly that tree.hugger needs to post.
Also who the hell is Tredmasta?
What do you want me to do¿ i rather lynch jonny but the town doesnt want.
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On February 27 2010 09:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2010 08:12 Iaaan wrote:
To justify my vote:
The people I think that are most likely mafia at this point are sidesprang, Johnnyspazz, opz, Tree.hugger, and maybe shocckey.
The reason to vote to lynch Chezinu is because the way I see it he is a little suspicious, but it is also very possible that he is the DT. Him flipping DT proves the innocence of vivi and hobbes, the people that he claimed to rolecheck, and him flipping red kills a red, lol. At this point when there are so few town aligned people left, if we can be sure of who are townies, then that narrows down the possibility of finding mafia members by alot. Plus at this point I think the DT is less useful then before, since they will have used all their rolechecks. There are no limitations to the number of times that you may use each ability throughout the course of the game. Thus the reason to keep me alive as long as possible. Seriously, if the other mafia thought I was mafia they would have killed me. Please, let the other mafia kill me. It will allow us to have another rolecheck. It is illogical to lynch me now.
Post finds now please.
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you are telling this is the DT rolechecklist¿... lawl.
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On February 27 2010 11:04 Chezinu wrote:The Circle Goes Public! Circle Members: + Show Spoiler +Chezinu
[NyC]HoBbes
Vivi57
Foolishness
Iaaan Player list: + Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
8. Vivi57
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
23. Chezinu
24. Scamp
26. L (Pardoner)
28. Iaaan
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
44.[NyC]HoBbes
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
50. Foolishness
51. madnessman Possible hit list targets: + Show Spoiler +5. johnnyspazz
11. XeliN
12. Amber[Light]
16. dozko
18. tree.hugger
19. ShoCkeyy
24. Scamp
29. ~OpZ~
30. sidesprang
33. ohN
34. Abenson
38. CynanMachae
40. tredmasta
45. Versatile
47. Malongo
51. madnessman
*fixed
Limbo players:
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On February 27 2010 14:01 dozko wrote:
I do not understand whats with the sudden vote shifts. Its like everything that has been discussed the previous day gets thrown out of the window in the morning.
People voting for jspazz I can understand, I firmly believe he is mafia due to his earlier voting patterns (+ the fact that he radically changed them after my post was out) and due to the words of his fellow scum. Given that I already wrote loads on that and that his posting pattern is plainly red I dont understand why we are sparing him any longer?
L i can also understand, I mean intentionally or not the fact is he screwed us over and his subsequent posts did not really offer any reparations so to speak. However as I have previously stated I do not think he is red but I can get why people want to get rid of him out of anger and the desire to satisfy their curiosity.
Here's two things I do not understand though. Firstly why are people voting Chez off ? Surely he proved himself by the QS lynch (unless I missed something here), else we'd still be looking at a sumiyoshi family with 3 kp. So why are people suddenly voting for him, surely there are much better candidates? It does not make any sense; people voting for him have no justification in my eyes apart from random selection.
The other person not collecting any votes, which I find surprising, is tree.hugger. I mean I played in the same game as him and his lack of activity this game seems highly suspicious. Plus I thought ver's postmortem (ha) analysis was very convincing.
I think the only clear lynch right now should be jspazz. I would very much appreciate it if people voting for Chezinu could post their reasons, especially my earlier suspect XeliN who I dont want people to lose sight of; and Abenson, whose entire game participation consists of 1 liner posts and yet he is always quick to vote on an uncertain lynch. To me it seems like he might be the puppet of a more experienced mafioso.
Dozco how do you feel about lynching Shockeyy¿
Guy is nowhere to be seen and his voting pattern is fishy as hell. Add a few notes here and there and the fact that he was voting along with Quickstriker (he voted with 1 minute diff first day).
What about the same in Cynanmachae¿
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GG. Sadly i wasnt here.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 25 2010 15:11 Malongo wrote:
Nikoner
ShoCkeyy
QuickStriker
johnnyspazz
Phrujbaz
CynanMachae
tredmasta
ohN
All this players abstained first 2 days. (rest is dead) NONE of them voted to lynch QUICKSTRIKER DAY3
CynanMachae
johnnyspazz
ShoCkeyy
tredmasta
Pushed to get redtooth instead of Quickstricker even when ver had confirmed him RED.
ohn abstains
Now last day town lynch is Quickstriker
johnnyspazz, Nikoner, ohN dont lynch quickstriker and cynanmachae is one of the last to vote him when he was obviously getting lynched.
From these people i think the most likely to be Sumiyumi are
johnnyspazz
CynanMachae
ohn
On February 26 2010 16:08 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2010 16:00 Scamp wrote:
I'd also appreciate it if Sidesprang and Tredmasta would speak up. Especially Sidesprang in order to explain his last vote. Sidesprang is smafia. + Show Spoiler +
Seeing that his partner had succeeded, the last Mafioso decided that luck was on his side. He lurched through the shadows, eager to finish his last kill. After all, his target was the lowly decafchicken. Upon reaching the house, Caller knocked on the door. For some reason, decafchicken’s friend opened the door, and was slightly suspicious of Caller, and accused him of his unwanted behaviors: rigging the market, sabotaging the financial system, and supporting the aristocracy of money. Caller however, was not disturbed by the accusations, smashed the door in, knocking decafchicken’s friend to the floor. He soon found decafchicken in the kitchen. Unfortunately, decafchicken had time to prepare due to his friend’s attempt to stall, and thrust a kitchen knife at Caller’s chest. But Caller was well prepared, and began to taunt decafchicken, who quickly became angry. In a matter of moments, Caller’s had decafchicken decapitated by his own knife. Content, Caller thought he should finish the job completely, and walked toward the front door, ready to finish decafchicken’s friend off. Unfortunately, the man was gone. Frantic, Caller ran out into the street, looking for any signs of the missing man. But he did not see his doom approaching or hear the voices of warning coming from the bridge above. In a matter of seconds, Caller was turned into a pincushion as he was hit from the side. The only traces of any action came from the dust cloud that was disappearing in the distance.
See sidesprang picture.
I wonder when are you guys going to start trusting me. *sigh
Thanks for running the game Incog and flame.
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On March 05 2010 08:20 Ace wrote:Sadly I never get the chance to live long enough to try Imo following your logic is kinda hard to follow, but you somehow arrive at the right conclusion a decent amount of times. So in short, I actually read the stuff you post even if it takes me 20 minutes. ^_^
Unfortunately my redaction still sucks in the logic department. I mean i feel like i lack the right words and "premade sentences" to make my analysis reader friendly. However im playing a lot better ^_^. By the way i just hate redtooth for playing like that and also because he didnt follow my plan.
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