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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 02:03 GMT
#744
FYI, I'm one of those people who have voted for citi.zen, but I'm not blindly trusting him. I voted for him because I am unfamiliar with most of the other candidates. If citi.zen remains silent I plan on switching my vote to someone else before the voting closes. I'm just going to take my time doing it because I don't want to be switching my vote over and over like I did the first game I played for the elections.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 02:11 GMT
#747
On February 15 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I voted for citi.zen because of how well he did last game and is uninvolved in the ace/l/redtooth drama. However, I am strongly considering changing my vote to L.

I'm thinking about it. Citi.zen has been a bit inactive.

Yeah DrH, L is who I have been considering switching my vote to as well. I'm going to wait awhile before I pull the trigger on any voting changes though.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 03:19 GMT
#794
On February 15 2010 12:15 Bill Murray wrote:
the only problem with your analysis, though, my friend... is that you're already thinking from the perspective of an opposing mafia. Why?
WHY ZATO?


It would make sense to think in the shoes of the other factions if you plan to beat them. If you're with the town - you try to think of how the 2 mafia families are thinking and what they are trying to accomplish. If your from family A, you do the same for both the down and family B. And of course the same goes for family B with the town and family A. With a three opposing faction it doesn't make sense not to try to think like another faction and how to use them against the remaining faction.

As for Zato ... that's neither here nor there. I have no clue if he's mafia or not lol.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 15:25 GMT
#1013
On February 15 2010 16:23 MasterDana wrote:
This may have been brought up and I overlooked it, but discussion about 789 seems to have vanished among this drama.


789 appears to have disappeared for several hours at night in his location of the united states, suspicious or sleeping?

As for the clue analysis ...

The whole horsemen thing ... I can't really refute this by anything else then saying it is a dinosaur, not a horse.

The moon/sun thing ... There are people who have a profile picture that actually have moons in them rather than a sun, I'm too lazy to look them all up, but Ace and Mystlord come to mind off the top of my head.

The aiming thing ... yeah there really is nothing to say there.

The light appearing in the shadows thing ... well you say it yourself, "She proceeds to journey through the shadows provided by the trees. But, as fate would have it, light appears upon her." The poem clearly states it the other way around "Shadows move where light should be."

I dunno ... I think the clue connections to Ace and EMP are stronger than myself ... but of course I'd be biased. Tell me what you plan to learn about me being lynched.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:21 GMT
#1027
Citi.zen, the think is though that mystlord could fit the moon clue and EMP could fit the radiant creature clue. That is the danger of trying to fit clues to someone. Clues fit a lot better when you're trying to fit them to a specific person. Sure there is a chance that one or both of these fit Ace, there is the possibility that none of them fit him though. We should be careful about lynching based on clues so early.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:27 GMT
#1030
Yeah, the connections are there ... the connections are there on me too. Several people have brought up the possibilty of some of the clues fitting me as well. But really my point is ... at this early point in the game we should be noting these connections in the clues and see if any come up later clue drops to solidify them. The day 1 lynch is usually a crap shoot ... analyzing day 1 clues is more of a crap shoot. I'm not sure we should stack crap shoots.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:28 GMT
#1031
On February 16 2010 01:27 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 01:21 789 wrote:
Citi.zen, the think is though that mystlord could fit the moon clue and EMP could fit the radiant creature clue. That is the danger of trying to fit clues to someone. Clues fit a lot better when you're trying to fit them to a specific person. Sure there is a chance that one or both of these fit Ace, there is the possibility that none of them fit him though. We should be careful about lynching based on clues so early.


Read my posts again, I never said "lynch Ace right now based on day 1 clues". All I did was present my analysis of both clues and behavior, in two separate posts. It is partial and surely wrong in some ways, but I don't see how not saying anything moves the game along.


I know you didn't I was just bringing up the possibility that those clues could be matching someone else.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:31 GMT
#1034
On February 16 2010 01:29 citi.zen wrote:
So what is your point: we need to all shut up and just... vote?


My point was only if we're going to talk about clues possibly connecting to someone, we should talk about the other people they possibly fit.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:34 GMT
#1035
On February 16 2010 01:28 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 01:27 789 wrote:
Yeah, the connections are there ... the connections are there on me too. Several people have brought up the possibilty of some of the clues fitting me as well. But really my point is ... at this early point in the game we should be noting these connections in the clues and see if any come up later clue drops to solidify them. The day 1 lynch is usually a crap shoot ... analyzing day 1 clues is more of a crap shoot. I'm not sure we should stack crap shoots.


So then you're advocating posting behavior? Who strikes you as someone who's posting as mafia?


I'll be honest with you .. I really don't know. The whole thing with 2 mafia families is sort of throwing me off. I'm sure at least someone in the whole L, DrH, Ace, redtooth, and laaan thing that's going on is mafia. The only problem is I don't know who.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 16:47 GMT
#1042
Redtooth, I'm curious as to why you push L for voting so hard. How can you be sure he is non mafia?
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 21:45 GMT
#1092
On February 16 2010 06:28 L wrote:
Nikoner, not killing someone day 1 is generally a box of dumb. Even if it makes me look bad, its better to have 100% confirmable information for the town to work with regarding associations and whatnot.

My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else.

Like i said; Grow some fucking balls.


Well the only other person I can currently see fitting this clue is Zona based on his profile picture - it has sort of a blue radiant vibe to it. Problem with zona is he is probably going to be mod killed anyway for not voting.

The other killers have a couple people that could possibly fit into the clues ... the last one, not so much at least in my opinion. It is of course possible I'm missing something in someone's profile.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 22:07 GMT
#1100
On February 16 2010 06:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 06:28 L wrote:
Nikoner, not killing someone day 1 is generally a box of dumb. Even if it makes me look bad, its better to have 100% confirmable information for the town to work with regarding associations and whatnot.

My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else.

Like i said; Grow some fucking balls.

L, I'll nibble... only a bit. The clues we have regarding Emp are that his name has links to light, fire and heaven, but it seems to me that "thinking that an angel had saved the town" is more a manner of speech; a being masked by light is not necessarily the same as an angelic being. Consider BloodyCobbler's profile - plenty of blue-ish light in there, and it seems that he was eager to set you up as super-eager to lynch Ace.

I'm curious as to why no one's focusing on the hyena-laughter/psychopathic noises. Madnessman feels pretty red-herring to me, but who else could it be?


I think you have a good point with BC, that's another potential fit for the last killer. I've looked into the laughter and the noises and got nothing. The hyena like laughter came up at one point during the last mafia game we played - but it didn't seem to fit anyone in that game.

The people who were mafia in that game and are in this game are:
DrH
Mystlord
Phrujbaz

It still doesn't seem to fit any of the 3. Though I'll be honest I haven't for the life of me been able to find out what Phrujbaz means.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 22:19 GMT
#1110
Well, one possible answer for that is how inactive he's been. Why would you stick your neck out and risk yourself for someone who's not been participating? But there is the possibility that he's been active behind the scenes via PM or IRC or something.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 22:35 GMT
#1115
On February 16 2010 07:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 07:07 789 wrote:
On February 16 2010 06:57 d3_crescentia wrote:
On February 16 2010 06:28 L wrote:
Nikoner, not killing someone day 1 is generally a box of dumb. Even if it makes me look bad, its better to have 100% confirmable information for the town to work with regarding associations and whatnot.

My only fear is that ZERO people have pushed back against my claim against emp, and a number of people have tagged along well after i took pains to make it clear i wasn't dropping the accusation. Either one of the mafia teams is using him as a sacrifice to get, say, ver, to look good by supporting my position, or emp is green/blue and afk like a moron. Given his vote, it would seem that he isn't afk, which leads me to believe that killing him will at least give me some information. I'm actually more worried about how much information regarding clue interpretation for this game I can glean from a red or green flip than anything else.

Like i said; Grow some fucking balls.

L, I'll nibble... only a bit. The clues we have regarding Emp are that his name has links to light, fire and heaven, but it seems to me that "thinking that an angel had saved the town" is more a manner of speech; a being masked by light is not necessarily the same as an angelic being. Consider BloodyCobbler's profile - plenty of blue-ish light in there, and it seems that he was eager to set you up as super-eager to lynch Ace.

I'm curious as to why no one's focusing on the hyena-laughter/psychopathic noises. Madnessman feels pretty red-herring to me, but who else could it be?


I think you have a good point with BC, that's another potential fit for the last killer. I've looked into the laughter and the noises and got nothing. The hyena like laughter came up at one point during the last mafia game we played - but it didn't seem to fit anyone in that game.

The people who were mafia in that game and are in this game are:
DrH
Mystlord
Phrujbaz

It still doesn't seem to fit any of the 3. Though I'll be honest I haven't for the life of me been able to find out what Phrujbaz means.


From Mystlords profile:

[image loading]


The girl appears to be laughing from atop a roof, which is the location of the killer in the scenario. Interestingly enough, the town is burning around her which is fitting since arson was used by other killers to get the job done. She doesn't necessarily appear to be the cause of the fire, but rather is amongst it



You know DrH, I think that's a really good point. I had always looked at the fire in the picture as a potential connection to the arson. I never thought about it in terms of one of the killers after the fire had started. She also appears to have sort of a crazy look in addition to her laughing which could fit the psychotic noises. So it sort of has a mesh between the noises and the laughter.

I don't think it is enough to lynch on quite yet, but it is a nice one to file away. This is sort of why I made my post ... I thought something might be there in one of the profiles but didn't see anything myself. So I brought it up to see if anyone else did and it may have paid off.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 23:28 GMT
#1138
On February 16 2010 08:26 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 08:21 Ace wrote:
On February 16 2010 08:21 L wrote:
On February 16 2010 08:19 redtooth wrote:
god damn it i said don't worry about chezinu L.

I'm not worried about him.

I'm worried about YOU.


and I'm worried about YOU.


And I'm worried about you.


C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 23:35 GMT
#1150
I think we can all agree that redtooth's push for pardoner is a bit suspicious. I personally don't buy his infallible logic about him being clearly town aligned. He also clearly believes that the pardoner is the more powerful position for mafia ... and the reason he wants it is to that the mafia can't have it. It works both ways ... he would desire it if he was mafia as well. It would also make sense with how he's been supporting L so much in the election ... it would appear he's trying to get someone elected ahead of him.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 15 2010 23:58 GMT
#1187
Don't worry red ... you're getting a huge swing vote for SOME reason. You may even become mayor at this rate...
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 16 2010 00:02 GMT
#1194
Well that ending was very unexpected to say the least.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 16 2010 00:07 GMT
#1212
Yeah there is really no concrete way to prove he's a medic. I doubt he is a medic ... it smells just like his early arguments for ace to appear town aligned. Oops I have to be a medic because I didn't even mean to post that lololol.
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789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
February 16 2010 00:08 GMT
#1217
Mayor is not more important that NO position, which is where redtooth was headed until the sudden influx of votes.
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