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United States959 Posts

February 09 2010 21:07 GMT

#18

On February 10 2010 05:53 sidesprang wrote:

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maybe they retire as mafia and join the townies ?

You can't just retire from the mafia! They'll kill ya! Haven't you ever seen the movies. Though I suppose if there is no one left to kill you, you're good lol.

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United States959 Posts

February 09 2010 21:25 GMT

#20

I think if a mafia ends up down to 1-2 players and can't win anymore, their objective just turns to playing spoiler for whichever faction they choose (the other family or the town). I think the natural choice would be the other family - since their original objective was to wipe them out. They can't win, but they can make someone lose.

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United States959 Posts

February 10 2010 22:29 GMT

#90

LOL abenson, your picture is friggin awesome.

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United States959 Posts

February 12 2010 15:52 GMT

#154

It is based on both as far as I can tell. It goes by post count, but you have to be registered for a certain amount of time to get that icon as well.

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United States959 Posts

February 12 2010 16:47 GMT

#157

We need corsairs and valkyries to combat the stacked flying monkey swarm! Maybe some irradiate too.

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United States959 Posts

February 12 2010 18:43 GMT

#165

Editing is a clear sign of mafia. I think we should use a double lynch on redtooth to make sure we get the job done right.

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United States959 Posts

February 12 2010 19:02 GMT

#167

On February 13 2010 03:58 flamewheel91 wrote:

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The ones that evolve later are generally stronger!
...Like the dragons.
Yay. But yeah it's based on a combination of time registered and post count.

Though I've been registered for more than a month and have over 250 posts, so I'm a bit confused right now.

I got mine at around 2 and a half months ... I had over the 250 posts as well.

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United States959 Posts

February 14 2010 23:15 GMT

#629

Holy crap I've missed alot since yesterday. Unfortunately I won't have a chance to catch up until I get home tonight.

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United States959 Posts

February 14 2010 23:56 GMT

#647

Well I just caught up reading, decided to do it now instead of when I get home.

DrH, now you know how I feel, this is exactly how BillMurray acted to me last game before he was killed. I'm not sure if he is mafia based on his "slip up" but I am sure that BM should stand for bad mannered.

As for the accusations against myself. The connection of the horsemen to my profile picture ... there really isn't a lot I can say in my defense besides it is a dinosaur in my profile picture. Sort of a lame defene, but I'm not sure what else to say.
The moon blinding dreamflower. On this one It would seem the blinding would be a strong connection to the little poem in my profile referring to the Halls of the Blind in Diablo 1. But if you've played the game I think you'd agree with me that the HotB isn't named as such because it blinds you, but because the enemies are invisible.

As for the mayor vote, I'm going to vote for Citi.zen. I've only played one game and he did a nice job for the town. It isn't enough to blindly follow whatever he does, but enough to earn my day 1 vote being that I don't know most of the rest of the candidates.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 00:10 GMT

#663

It has been asked before Scamp, but I honestly can't remember what the message was. It was before the game started ... so the first few pages if you want to go looking for it.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 00:10 GMT

#664

Answer* not message.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 00:13 GMT

#666

On February 10 2010 07:03 Ver wrote:

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It's not just the activity, the town is totally screwed then since they don't have the time to figure out who the mafia is and then convince everyone to change their votes to that person. In your game a small group of people were extremely active but it took time for the rest of the group to weigh in their opinions and votes. 48 hours is often too short to accomplish that purpose but so far it has worked really well as longer the mafia get kinda screwed.

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1. Yes, yes.
2. If it's such a 'no-brainer' the town will simply get the mayor to reveal the bgs then kill them. Mafia have to balance this possibility with the strength of infiltrating office.

3. The Mafia family can still kill off the town and then kill the other family.

4. No, and this needs to be amended to the rules if it is not clear. Town cannot win if it's members are all dead. iirc we had a possible clause saying that the town needed to have a certain number of people left relative to the mafia but I'm not quite sure if it was viable.

If anyone has suggestions to make it so that comebacks are more than possible without having to rely too much on outside interference please give them. This game format was really hard to come up with since we had to design it in such a way that mafia can't team up

5. Give a better name then!

Found it on page 2 scamp. Yes the DTs will be told what family it is.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 00:51 GMT

#696

Did Empyrean have a profile before? It is pretty much blank right now...

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 00:58 GMT

#703

On February 15 2010 09:53 meeple wrote:

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He posted a while back saying he doesn't have a password to change his profile. The connection to clues was based on his name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empyrean

Oh I see. Yeah that does seem pretty strong link to the arson killing. I'm a little hesitant to do the first few lynches based off clues though, being as what happened last game when we tried to rely to heavily on them from the start.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:01 GMT

#706

On February 15 2010 09:57 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:

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On February 15 2010 09:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On February 15 2010 09:52 Foolishness wrote:
Okay people lets consider a few important ideas that are often overlooked that need to be taken into account soon.

There is absolutely zero reason to vote for Ver. We all know what happened last time he ran for office, I will summarize for those who are unfamiliar:

Ver: "waaa waaa I hate my life soooo many people PMing me waaa waaaa Ace Ace L Ace waa waaa please modkill me waaaa"

Point being, if you are town there is no reason to want Ver in office. If Ver is on the town side, he's only going to rage quit in two days. If Ver is mafia, you don't want a mafia in office. Don't elect someone who is going to cop out a third of the way through the game. At any rate, he has only half-heartedly made a campaign for office, I don't think he even wants to be elected anyways. Lots of people in the thread have been reinforcing their arguments with players' behavior in past games. Well, Ver's behavior in past games when he is elected is to rage quit. If you are one of these people that uses arguments like these, don't vote for Ver.

As I am sure someone else will do it, there seems to me to be a boatload of people who have yet to post or who have only made one or two posts (worthless posts might I add, for example OH HI IM HERE IMMA GO READ THE THREAD AND CATCH UP). As it has been correctly pointed out before, the mafia is going to be hiding among these inactive people. We have seen clearly in past games how the town goes ballistic killing itself while the mafia sits back and laughs. Lets make sure we keep track of all these people not contributing.

Okay, anyone who thinks we should kill Bill Murray is a complete idiot. Yes, that means you redtooth and DoctorHelvetica. And also laaan although you haven't explicitly said anything. Even BM pointed out that if he was mafia, he'd have other mafia members telling him what to post and how to do it. He is obviously way too incompetent where that would be the case this game. Furthermore, there are a bunch of inactive people, if he was mafia, I'm sure he'd be sitting right in that pool.

Remember guys, this is online mafia on teamliquid. This means that the teams are stacked for balancing issues (in other words, mafia members are not chosen at random). In a previous game where all of the veteran players where on the townside, the mafia got raped hard. With the addition of two mafia families, we can be reasonably sure that at least one, probably a few, of the veterans is mafia. While L's posts are almost all worth ignoring, he wants to kill Ace, who is a veteran, and thus we have to slog through his nonsensical posting. But killing off Ace is definitely something the town should highly consider. Perhaps you think Ace is too godly to kill off yet. If so, Ver has good analysis of BC, of which should be considered.

Remember guys, a veteran on the mafia side is a huge threat. They have the power to organize the mafia to victory. A mafia without a veteran is relatively helpless. On the contrast, the town can make do without a veteran. In fact, lots of times veterans hurt the town more than they help (I could site numerous examples, but I'm sure you all know). It's really easy for a novice player to step up as a green/blue and lead the town to victory. Heck I have nearly pulled this feat off in my first two games when I correctly found over 50% of the mafia. And I definitely pulled it off without any so called "veterans". It's clear that killing veterans is the right course of action as we could potentially deal a substantial blow to the mafia.

Considering Bill Murrays hotheaded attitude and erratic behavior in the previous game, I wouldn't be surprised if he posted without mafia direction. Besides, "oh i wouldnt do this if i was mafia dohohoho so i must be a townie" arguments are pretty weak.

Bill Murray isn't my #1 suspect anyway.

I'm confident that if Bill is mafia, he'll fuck up so massively in the next few days that we'll be conclusively sure of it.

Word. If he is mafia he'll either stop posting (which he says he will) or slip up again when he does. I think we should concentrate elsewhere for the time being. There seems to be 2 schools of thought: go for inactive or go for veterans, with many sub arguments in those 2 categories.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:05 GMT

#712

On February 15 2010 10:01 L wrote:
In retrospect, that reply to 789 was rather mean. Despite hating to put 'fluff' posts up, I feel the need to keep decorum seeing as someone has been warned before and apologize for the tone.

But still, try to keep up with what's being said for crying out loud.

Yeah I made a simple mistake, I had forgotten about that last killing. I am attempting to keep up.................. I'm sorry that I had other things to do over the weekend and had 25+ pages to keep up on. You could have just simply corrected me?

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:14 GMT

#715

On February 15 2010 10:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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@789

Well, as I said the 2 school of thought look like go for inactives or go for veteran players. If we go for inactives, we could combine that with clues and go for EMP... that seems to be the best way to go if we go after an inactive to me. As for veterans .. I don't personally have a leading candidate in mind there myself. Some of the stuff going on with accusations and stuff seems to be pre-existing grudges from other games.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:17 GMT

#720

On February 15 2010 10:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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Lynching Empyrean gives us no information. Although the clue connection is solid, Ace has a strong clue AND behavioral connection imo and we learn a lot depending on how he flips. It has nothing to do with if he's a veteran or not.

Yeah I was going to mention the ace thing, but decided against it since it has been discussed quite a bit already.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:33 GMT

#733

On February 15 2010 10:25 Mystlord wrote:
You know, labeling people as blue, red, or green is nice and all...
but we should be concentrating on the mayoral elections.

I for one don't want to end up putting a crap or mafia mayor/pardoner into office because people are just riding the bandwagon.

I agree. It would be nice for all the candidates to say who they plan to lynch if elected and why.

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United States959 Posts

February 15 2010 01:38 GMT

#738

On February 15 2010 10:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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Did we all not?

I will lynch Ace if elected mayor.

Well, I was bringing it up again since things may have changed since people made their "im running for the election" positions. It is possible with the flurry of posting going on since the start that at least 1 of them could have changed their opinions.

I don't know who I would lynch if I was getting elected, but I'm not really against the notion of lynching ace.

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