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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
January 24 2010 00:52 GMT
#1081
I wanna participate in the discussion so badly :X
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 24 2010 00:59 GMT
#1082
Abenson, please stop lol. If you keep posting after your dead, they may ban you from participating in further mafias.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
dreamflower
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States312 Posts
January 24 2010 01:03 GMT
#1083
Abenson, please stop posting after you've been killed. I can understand how frustrating it is not to be able to participate after dying so early, but it's against the rules to continue posting after death. As it says in the OP:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to) the following and will get you banned from future games:
1. Posting after death. One polite goodbye post is acceptable but please do not post anything which could POSSIBLY affect the game.
"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
January 24 2010 01:16 GMT
#1084
On January 24 2010 09:38 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 07:24 Ser Aspi wrote:
Also we have no reason to double lynch as of now. We have 0 suspects on any kind of reasonable evidence. If the DTs catch someone at night the vigis can handle it if they don't vigis don't have to. Otherwise we are just going to waste it and probably kill more greens if people keep trying to force red herrings on pplz.



We have plenty of suspects... by the time we get to use our double lynch there will be 8 clues at our disposal, almost certainly enough for two lynches. If we don;t start taking action now, we're going to be sunk later on.

I dont consider clues strong enough evidence to warrant double lynches pretty much ever. That should be saved for times we have the criminals more clearly figured out by more accurate means, with some social evidence. Otherwise we just end up killing townies faster than we want to...
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 01:20:36
January 24 2010 01:20 GMT
#1085
I was planning to pick through the clues myself, but well, other people already did it .

In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues.

So here's my suspects:

Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable.

Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile.

Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now.

Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project.

The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .

As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link:
Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku.

Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total).

Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 01:27 GMT
#1086
On January 24 2010 10:20 Mystlord wrote:
I was planning to pick through the clues myself, but well, other people already did it .

In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues.

So here's my suspects:

Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable.

Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile.

Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now.

Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project.

The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .

As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link:
Show nested quote +
Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku.

Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total).

Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary.


I wasn't saying that treading meant to plod/chase, but rather the fact that he couldn't outrun the attacker, and the fact that you can't really outrun a treadmill (for which treadmaster is a brand), and it will always keep the same pace (ie, plod).

For me thats a stronger connection/better connection than flamewheel

The connection between you and the third killer is shaky at best, which is why I put my faith behind the first killer
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 24 2010 01:27 GMT
#1087
Oh crap I edited... ... Crap I don't remember what I edited.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 24 2010 01:32 GMT
#1088
Sorry for the edit, but I honestly don't remember what I edited >.<

On January 24 2010 10:27 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 10:20 Mystlord wrote:
I was planning to pick through the clues myself, but well, other people already did it .

In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues.

So here's my suspects:

Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable.

Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile.

Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now.

Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project.

The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .

As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link:
Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku.

Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total).

Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary.


I wasn't saying that treading meant to plod/chase, but rather the fact that he couldn't outrun the attacker, and the fact that you can't really outrun a treadmill (for which treadmaster is a brand), and it will always keep the same pace (ie, plod).

For me thats a stronger connection/better connection than flamewheel

The connection between you and the third killer is shaky at best, which is why I put my faith behind the first killer

Wait Treadmaster is a treadmill brand? When I google Treadmaster I get:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=treadmaster&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=

Am I missing something here?
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
January 24 2010 01:38 GMT
#1089
Jugan asked me in a pm to post what I think of recent events.

First, I'm very sad that we lost a detective early on, through what I think stupid play. What's done is done, but there is still a lesson to be learned. Blues should hide as much from the Mafia as the Mafia is hiding from the town.

Don't do anything suspicious. Be careful who you communicate with in private. Make sure the public knows who you are talking to if something goes wrong.

Second, as for double lynch, there is a decent chance that a new set of clues will allow us to nail at least one Mafia. However, double lynches are usually used when you have solid clues on multiple people. I don't think we have enough to go on to successfully lynch two Mafia. At this point, I think we're more likely to lynch two innocents than two Mafia. I would use double lynch later.

Finally, I think some of you have a too narrow focus. Early clues are always really vague and very loosely connected to the Mafia. They could refer to anyone. Just one example:

First result for "magicbullet" on google is the "magic bullet blender," which is kitchen equipment. What role do the refrigerator and the food references play in the first kill on day 1? Why are they necessary for the story?

Another example, citi.zen's quote is "Aut inveniam viam aut faciam." It's Latin and means "I shall either find a way or make one." How would you describe this sentiment? Perseverance. How would you describe the character in the first kill on day two?

Now I don't mean to say magicbullet and citi.zen are Mafia. I just think it's important to keep an open mind and not become too obsessed with any one reference at this point. Like "I just can't ignore how clue X seems to fit perfectly to person Y." There's a good chance the clue has to be interpreted in a totally different way from what you're thinking.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 01:52 GMT
#1090
On January 24 2010 10:32 Mystlord wrote:
Sorry for the edit, but I honestly don't remember what I edited >.<

Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 10:27 meeple wrote:
On January 24 2010 10:20 Mystlord wrote:
I was planning to pick through the clues myself, but well, other people already did it .

In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues.

So here's my suspects:

Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable.

Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile.

Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now.

Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project.

The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .

As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link:
Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku.

Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total).

Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary.


I wasn't saying that treading meant to plod/chase, but rather the fact that he couldn't outrun the attacker, and the fact that you can't really outrun a treadmill (for which treadmaster is a brand), and it will always keep the same pace (ie, plod).

For me thats a stronger connection/better connection than flamewheel

The connection between you and the third killer is shaky at best, which is why I put my faith behind the first killer

Wait Treadmaster is a treadmill brand? When I google Treadmaster I get:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=treadmaster&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=

Am I missing something here?


https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=773537

I was under the impression that it was a colloquialism
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 02:01 GMT
#1091
Although now you've put doubt in my mind...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 24 2010 02:37 GMT
#1092
I personally feel the connection to Flamewheel is stronger than tredmastas. Particularly the references to olympians, specifically.

It's a tough decision we have to make : /
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 24 2010 02:37 GMT
#1093
this thread has slowed down too much

I need something to take my mind off the abomination that was the msl
RIP Aaliyah
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 24 2010 02:47 GMT
#1094
On January 24 2010 10:52 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 10:32 Mystlord wrote:
Sorry for the edit, but I honestly don't remember what I edited >.<

On January 24 2010 10:27 meeple wrote:
On January 24 2010 10:20 Mystlord wrote:
I was planning to pick through the clues myself, but well, other people already did it .

In any case, I agree that we should hold off on the double lynch. I think it would be the most effective once we lynch at least 1 mafia so we can possibly bring their KP down to 2 while giving us the most clues.

So here's my suspects:

Killing 1 - flamewheel91. I can see your point about tredmasta meeple, but to tread doesn't mean to chase relentlessly or to plod. I think the olympic runner tie in is much more believable.

Killing 2 - kane]deth[. This has been discussed before and I don't see any other references to the methods that were used to kill Bill Murray in any profile.

Killing 3 - Not sure. I honestly can't find a suitable match without stretching a little bit, so I'll leave this blank for now.

Now as for meeple's accusation of me regarding the third clue, my quote is a reference to Cirno from The Touhou Project.

The circles around the letters are a reference to her famous (or infamous) ⑨ designation, which has become almost synonymous with stupidity in the Touhou community. The reason that it says "eye" instead of "I" is because in Japanese, Cirno uses the personal pronoun "atai" to refer to herself, which is a rather childish way to do it. In English, you can't get the same connotation, so I decided to substitute "eye" just for the heck of it .

As for her catch phrase, here's the relevant part from the earlier article link:
Cirno's catchphrase (in doujin works), "I'm the strongest!," comes from her dialogue in PoFV, where she announces this in her scenario, while being everyone else's stage one boss. She also says it when winning with herself in Phantasmagoria of Flower View and in Hisoutensoku.

Phantasmagoria of Flower View (PoFV) and Hisoutensoku are both games in the series, but the irony here is that she's actually not the strongest, rather she's the weakest (Stage 1 boss while there are 9 Stages total).

Make of it what you will, but I think some context is necessary.


I wasn't saying that treading meant to plod/chase, but rather the fact that he couldn't outrun the attacker, and the fact that you can't really outrun a treadmill (for which treadmaster is a brand), and it will always keep the same pace (ie, plod).

For me thats a stronger connection/better connection than flamewheel

The connection between you and the third killer is shaky at best, which is why I put my faith behind the first killer

Wait Treadmaster is a treadmill brand? When I google Treadmaster I get:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=treadmaster&btnG=Search&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq=

Am I missing something here?


https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=773537

I was under the impression that it was a colloquialism

:< Oh. Shows how much I go to the gym amiright? Well then I'd say the case between tredmasta and flamewheel is equally strong...
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 24 2010 03:14 GMT
#1095
Yeah, I don't like the decision we have this day cycle at all. There are really no candidates I feel comfortable and confident with. Every time I consider a candidate I like to consider the possibility if we're wrong they will flip blue. When I think like that, there are none I feel confident in.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 03:25 GMT
#1096
To be honest, I'm not totally comfortable with the decision to be made for today either, but we still need to make a decision. I don't mind waiting for the double lynch, but it would suck to be pressured into it...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 24 2010 03:27 GMT
#1097
Well if we vote for a double lynch today, we have to do it tomorrow. We could easily be just as indecisive. Ser Aspi is right, it's going to take more than day clues to sniff out the mafia: although the clues are certainly a helpful and objective framework for that purpose.
RIP Aaliyah
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 24 2010 04:04 GMT
#1098
I know Ser Aspi brought up the point that we probably don't know enough from the clues to pick a good lynching candidate, but I think it is our best bet for now. I don't think there is anyone worth lynching based on behavior. The only other thing I can think of is posting activity. We could lynch someone that is inactive, losing an inactive green won't hurt much. This can be risky, as we could lynch a blue who is laying low. This chance is probably about equal to getting a lurking mafia. I don't know if that is worth the risk either.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 24 2010 04:24 GMT
#1099
I wouldn't really risk lynching off inactivity... we can't really afford to lose any green at this point
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
January 24 2010 04:26 GMT
#1100
Yeah, I was just throwing out alternatives to following the clues. Mostly to suggest that it isn't a good idea. If we screw up on clues, at least we knew we gave it a good honest try then a random choice.
Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!
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