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On January 24 2010 14:44 flamewheel91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 14:29 789 wrote:
While I said your behavior might be a little suspicious, I still have kane #1 on my list for what it's worth. Also I agee with your second point, which is why I said it would hurt more if you flipped green. And if you're accused, 789, by the same token it will seem suspicious if your posting activity rises in order to save your own life. But I thank you for your logical follow through--I am still strongly protesting my lynching by the rest of the bandwagoners out there.
I would expect as much, but I don't think my activity level would rise that much ... I'm already in the top 3 probably. Which leads me to the real reason I am making this post...
Zona, can we get another one of your post count extractions run. I'm still using the one you made back on the high 30's haha.
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ghote can you explain why you chose to vote for kane]deth[ and double lynch?
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We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information.
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Well the clues are here to point us in the right direction... although I agree with ghote and hyperbola, what are your reasons for the other two...
And why do you think they're more suspicious than someone like keit, who hides in the shadows and can be linked to some clues?
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On January 24 2010 15:31 Ser Aspi wrote:
We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information.
<3
But gotta agree that clues mostly distract us at this point, we might get lucky and hit a gangsta but thats pretty unlikely to me - and even if we get them that way, we cant really connect them to other mafiamen with that method.
I would take under suspicion anyone who votes for a double lynch, either they are mafia trying to cut the townie count faster & save themselves from it at later date, or just really stupid which isnt desirable either.
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On January 24 2010 15:47 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 15:31 Ser Aspi wrote:
We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information. <3 But gotta agree that clues mostly distract us at this point, we might get lucky and hit a gangsta but thats pretty unlikely to me - and even if we get them that way, we cant really connect them to other mafiamen with that method. I would take under suspicion anyone who votes for a double lynch, either they are mafia trying to cut the townie count faster & save themselves from it at later date, or just really stupid which isnt desirable either.
Right now most of the votes are based off clues... who would you suggest instead?
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On January 24 2010 15:47 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 15:31 Ser Aspi wrote:
We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information. <3 But gotta agree that clues mostly distract us at this point, we might get lucky and hit a gangsta but thats pretty unlikely to me - and even if we get them that way, we cant really connect them to other mafiamen with that method. I would take under suspicion anyone who votes for a double lynch, either they are mafia trying to cut the townie count faster & save themselves from it at later date, or just really stupid which isnt desirable either.
So stupid = trying to get rid of an extra mafia member? However unlikely at this point, it's not considered "stupid," especially since you don't know how the detectives are working at this point.
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I'm not convinced of the worthiness of getting the double lynch. We don't really know enough to get two, and we're basically betting that tommorow we'll know significantly more than today, which is questionable. However we will get a bunch more clues and have an idea how everyone voted so its definitely possible we're able to finger two mafia tommorow.
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Mystlord
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I agree on the point that we definitely need more participation from the townies. It would help to alleviate suspicion and give us a lot more material to work with. I'm surprised more people haven't been banned for inactivity or something...
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On January 24 2010 16:00 flamewheel91 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 15:47 JohannesH wrote:On January 24 2010 15:31 Ser Aspi wrote:
We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information. <3 But gotta agree that clues mostly distract us at this point, we might get lucky and hit a gangsta but thats pretty unlikely to me - and even if we get them that way, we cant really connect them to other mafiamen with that method. I would take under suspicion anyone who votes for a double lynch, either they are mafia trying to cut the townie count faster & save themselves from it at later date, or just really stupid which isnt desirable either. So stupid = trying to get rid of an extra mafia member? However unlikely at this point, it's not considered "stupid," especially since you don't know how the detectives are working at this point. Focus being on the word trying. Why lynch more when we have less info, when we can wait and do it at a time where we have more info.
Prime thing to look at i think would be to see what happened with Bill - people who were in touch with him are suspects to me, but not necessarily mafia ofc (well goes for everyone...)
If the vote is centered around clue 1 vs clue 2, mafia choosing based on that pretty much zero info about their voting patterns for the future. And if theres just 1 real candidate for lynch in the end they can go with it, was that guy mafia or not.
Gonna do some more reading & analysing at some point later... Shit is not easy :/
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On January 24 2010 16:22 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 16:00 flamewheel91 wrote:On January 24 2010 15:47 JohannesH wrote:On January 24 2010 15:31 Ser Aspi wrote:
We absolutely cannot go with clues. A much safer thing would be to see who we are accusing on clues and declare them innocent. That's how little clues mean right now.
Mafia often seem to try to hide in da shadows while the town goes crazy with clues and accuses the people who are in the open the most like t_co. unfortunately they almost always kill innocents while doing so. We should be targeting the people on the fringes above all else.
I think that instead of going crazy on clues we should force the people who are not really contributing to step up or die. Zona had the right idea before but he drowned out by the clue posts. I'll start.
Hyperbola
Cynanmachae
JohannesH
Ghote
i don't trust any of you. All of you are sitting aside quietly not helping at all. Better start contributing or your red blood will fly. Everyone help contribute so we can get good information. <3 But gotta agree that clues mostly distract us at this point, we might get lucky and hit a gangsta but thats pretty unlikely to me - and even if we get them that way, we cant really connect them to other mafiamen with that method. I would take under suspicion anyone who votes for a double lynch, either they are mafia trying to cut the townie count faster & save themselves from it at later date, or just really stupid which isnt desirable either. So stupid = trying to get rid of an extra mafia member? However unlikely at this point, it's not considered "stupid," especially since you don't know how the detectives are working at this point. Focus being on the word trying. Why lynch more when we have less info, when we can wait and do it at a time where we have more info. Prime thing to look at i think would be to see what happened with Bill - people who were in touch with him are suspects to me, but not necessarily mafia ofc (well goes for everyone...) If the vote is centered around clue 1 vs clue 2, mafia choosing based on that pretty much zero info about their voting patterns for the future. And if theres just 1 real candidate for lynch in the end they can go with it, was that guy mafia or not. Gonna do some more reading & analysing at some point later... Shit is not easy :/
I agree that people associated with the whole Bill incident are a bit fishy... but it's kinda a shame he was so suspicious about it.
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
Wait - You mean not so suspicious about it?
As for the double lynch, I still don't think we should use it just yet. I don't see the need to use it until we get at least 1 mafia.
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On January 24 2010 16:33 Mystlord wrote:
Wait - You mean not so suspicious about it?
As for the double lynch, I still don't think we should use it just yet. I don't see the need to use it until we get at least 1 mafia.
He kept begging for Medic protection... and he did mention that he was "more active than it would appear" or something to that nature.
Its difficult to know whether or not the Mafia would be smart enough to take this as indication that he's a blue.
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Id think its pretty easy to figure out hes likely to be blue (or faking it, to protect the real blues or whatever) when you know hes not mafia at least. But another thing to consider for them wouldve been if they thought he'd be actually getting that medic cover.
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On January 24 2010 14:08 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2010 14:05 StimiLant wrote:
kanedeth, it seems to me based on day twos clues you are a top suspect, rebuddle in ur defence before i vote for ur death? plz give strong arguments I'd like to hear a couple people defend yourself actually, kane keit tredmasta If you have anything to say, say it now
Got nothing to say in my defence. Adios. Maybe?
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Something for everyone who are hesitating or thinking between flamewheel91 and kane]deth[.
Personally I would like to suggest and prefer if you went with the former option. No matter what clues come up on day three, they most likely will not be stronger than these two (that doesn't exclude being equally strong) and personally I think arrow's murder on day two might have hints at someone else also, but it's much more vague.
I would also prefer if you switched back to double lynch.
(1) If you lynch kane]deth[ now and get some gibberlish clues tomorrow you might not get two solid targets. Maybe only the two about D2/M1, in which case - unless lucky - we have a sure miss upon nominating those two, or we will still be in the dark about the possible second candid on day 4.
(2) Upon lynching flamewheel91 he might or might not turn red. If he doesn't we would already have two solid choices for day two and we would be in the same shoes as at (1). On the other hand if he turns red we will have a solid choice and some nice clues for a possible second lynch on day 3.
So in my opinion the worst case scenario that can come up after lynching flamewheel91 is what would happen if you lynch kane]deth[, but we can get luckier.
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Ng5 wrote:
Something for everyone who are hesitating or thinking between flamewheel91 and kane]deth[.
Please read the first sentence carefully before start flaming. 
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Mystlord wrote:
As for the double lynch, I still don't think we should use it just yet. I don't see the need to use it until we get at least 1 mafia.
This still sounds like something of a no sex on the first date excuse for me.
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are u saying to lynch flamewheel before kane? how and why does that give more clues, kane hasnt even defended himself either
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Lynch neither of them imo.
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