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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 04 2010 22:13 GMT
#63
Hi.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 05 2010 20:37 GMT
#93
On January 06 2010 05:19 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Hello. Reading posts

Me too.

I'm really not sure what to make of judge's claim for the moment, but I don't immediately see the point. I hope there is more to it than "trust me".

Actually, I haven't even read the rules thoroughly yet. I'm going to go do that, and I will be back in a few hours (class).
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 05 2010 23:54 GMT
#111
On January 06 2010 05:57 L wrote:
Its entirely possible there are 2 [medics] granted that they may have stacked the mafia team with very good players and used an extra medic as compensation.

This seems unlikely. If mafia have special roles or something I suppose this could be true, but in the spirit of a small game I can't see that being a likely case either.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 06 2010 22:03 GMT
#158
On January 07 2010 06:24 Vivi57 wrote:
At this point, I think it's +ev for the mafia not to accuse anyone and just stay out of the way while the town hangs itself. The people who haven't posted much or accused anyone are:

chez
heavon
mikeymoo

All 3 have posted a bit, but haven't actually said anything. I'm much less inclined to kill heavon because it seems like he's putting in a decent effort. Chez has said that he is going to not do his brown crap this game and not posted anything else. Mikeymoo has responded more directly to the game, but not really to any situations that have arisen. Because of this, I'm going to put my vote there for now, but may have to change it because I think judge should live till day 2 at least.

Hi I have school from 8-3 Mountain Time daily. I intend on giving my thoughts today, so hold your horses, alright? Reading now. Most of the game passes while I'm at school, and I suppose that's just unfortunate timing for me.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 06 2010 22:40 GMT
#166
I've thought about this for almost a day now, and I still don't understand judge's move.

I agree with L and Vivi. I think there is a case for judge being Medic or Vet, and even if there's a chance for him being GF, we might want to keep him around.

On the other hand, I have been thinking about this from a Medic's point of view for about a day, and it seems just like the rest of us, have come up dry in justifying this move. (Or at least publicly) It seems too valiant to be a townie protecting the real Medic, since it is unlikely the real Medic gets lynched on day 1 anyway. Which makes me lean toward Vet, but if that's the case, why make this move during the day? So to judge: can you answer if there was a good reason you claimed during the day?

Who else is a good candidate? I'm going to look through the thread again, but nobody has struck me. I might abstain tonight if I can't find a good case (or be otherwise convinced) for someone else.

Incognito, would you like me to edit my vote, or post a new one, if i decide to switch?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 00:07 GMT
#171
On January 07 2010 08:32 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
From a scum-aligned point of view: I am mafia. I can sit back, let town go at themselves, maybe push for a no-lynch on D1 and help us just effortlessly pick people off. Or I can claim to be a medic. I can pass on a night-kill to try and confirm myself, but people might see through that. Or I can try and waste a DT check, but they might not buy into that either. When I don't die and other people start dying, I will be questioned.

This isn't even WIFOM here, there is just no gain from a scum perspective.

Small point: I can't see why mafia would claim medic and pass on a night kill. A night miss can still be regarded as Vet, right? It still makes some sense (I guess?) to claim medic, just not passing on a night kill.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 00:55 GMT
#205
On January 07 2010 09:31 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
[...]Vivi hasn't really said much and is voting Mikey for some reason which he neglected to elaborate on.[...]


On January 07 2010 06:24 Vivi57 wrote:
[...]
At this point, I think it's +ev for the mafia not to accuse anyone and just stay out of the way while the town hangs itself. The people who haven't posted much or accused anyone are:

chez
heavon
mikeymoo

All 3 have posted a bit, but haven't actually said anything. I'm much less inclined to kill heavon because it seems like he's putting in a decent effort. Chez has said that he is going to not do his brown crap this game and not posted anything else. Mikeymoo has responded more directly to the game, but not really to any situations that have arisen. Because of this, I'm going to put my vote there for now, but may have to change it because I think judge should live till day 2 at least.

If you were still wondering, vivi doesn't seem to be here right now.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 01:07 GMT
#214
On January 07 2010 09:54 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 06:25 Ace wrote:
what exceptional information? I really want to know this.


To answer this question from way back, I have no idea what exceptional information. Judge says he's going to work his magic, that'll provide exceptional information one way or another. Perhaps I dressed up the wording too much.


Anyway, I personally do not have a strong read on anybody at this point. I do not see the strength of the argument against Malongo, but if there's a tie between him and Judge at the end of the day I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him in that case.

My strongest suspicion right now, however, is Mikeymoo. "Strongest suspicion" is kind of a misnomer since I don't have a strong read on anybody, but something about his posts so far have given me suspicion. I think he's being overly careful not to attract attention to himself while trying to provide some content.

I will be able to get back to my computer about 20 minutes before the deadline. I'll make any necessary vote changes then.

Wow bad timing by me if that's what you think. I'm not even sure how that makes me suspicious when other people are also trying to keep attention away from themselves.

I'm just really confused right now. Usually my day 1 vote is pretty clear cut. This time though, I see no reason to kill Malongo (apart from keeping judge alive), and I don't care one way or the other if judge lives. I'm probably going to abstain in the end.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 01:30 GMT
#223
I don't want malongo to die. I'm voting judge to get a no-lynch. I'm pretty sure malongo is innocent. I'm still 50/50 on judge, maybe 60/40 that he's town. I'd vote for a no-lynch but at this stage it's not going to happen.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 01:31 GMT
#225
Wow bad timing again lol, but my vote is still just!
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 01:34 GMT
#227
I was typing in this page when you were typing in the vote thread, Chez.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 01:38 GMT
#229
I find it funny that I have to tell the mafia forum that I will brb because of groceries.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 03:57 GMT
#283
My vote stays, I'm afraid with potential flip flopping I might mess something up -_-
This is kinda funny though.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 07 2010 04:31 GMT
#311
Okay, I'm sleeping now and have school until 5 local tomorrow. Once I get home I get to witness 3 hours of night phase, so please nobody hop on my ass for being "inactive". I'll try to check in the morning but no promises. Oh well, I guess it's night phase anyway.

Also, I don't know why Malongo didn't save himself. What info did we gain from this? Malongo's not mafia, which I suspected. Cool. Am I missing something?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 08 2010 01:02 GMT
#334
Chezinu, I suppose you waited until I slept so you could try to build up momentum against me until I got back? That's kinda low, even if my smurf dissed yours.

You say you were fishing for mafia, but it's just as likely you were mafia fishing for blues, imo.
Your "confidence" in your read seems to me as if you're unsure and you're trying to fish for more information, which is cool. But you shouldn't mislead town into jumping on a bandwagon. Especially one that is based on something as loose as this.

Anyway, how does one catch a mafia in PMs? Short of admitting "I'm mafia", I don't ever give anyone credit for having this skill, maybe maybe maybe Ver or MBH at best. Saying I'm 100% mafia and that it's "gg" is just overconfident and foolish. Your posting timing and attitude just reek, I'm sorry.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 08 2010 04:24 GMT
#358
Those PMs are so out of context. The bad timing PM was because after I sent the one about Malongo was sent as Malongo was posting.
I'm actually really surprised that you think those PMs incriminate me in any way, but at least you posted some of them so the town can decide for itself. Sleeping now.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 08 2010 20:59 GMT
#394
Chez wtf are you talking about?
4. wasn't selfish. It was to make it a tie.
10 didn't happen?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 08 2010 21:13 GMT
#397
On January 09 2010 06:06 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 05:59 mikeymoo wrote:
Chez wtf are you talking about?
4. wasn't selfish. It was to make it a tie.
10 didn't happen?

oh 10 was that you voted Judge and said you weren't going to change because you were scared.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 12:57 mikeymoo wrote:
My vote stays, I'm afraid with potential flip flopping I might mess something up -_-
This is kinda funny though.


it was fun! Self-made suspense!

4. Your mafia, everything you do has to be bad!

You were flipflopping your votes like a moron. You set it up for a tie by voting Malongo. Then, ideally, Malongo comes and ties the vote. Then you switch off and judge dies. That's what I was afraid of. I was ready to switch at the last moment but doing so earlier makes it so Malongo can't save himself.
I bet you Malongo didn't vote for judge because he was afraid of the same thing.
You're unpredictable and chaotic. I think I see why people don't like it when you play. It doesn't make you unreadable, it just screws up the game.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 08 2010 21:22 GMT
#399
On January 09 2010 06:16 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2010 06:13 mikeymoo wrote:
On January 09 2010 06:06 Chezinu wrote:
On January 09 2010 05:59 mikeymoo wrote:
Chez wtf are you talking about?
4. wasn't selfish. It was to make it a tie.
10 didn't happen?

oh 10 was that you voted Judge and said you weren't going to change because you were scared.

On January 07 2010 12:57 mikeymoo wrote:
My vote stays, I'm afraid with potential flip flopping I might mess something up -_-
This is kinda funny though.


it was fun! Self-made suspense!

4. Your mafia, everything you do has to be bad!

You were flipflopping your votes like a moron. You set it up for a tie by voting Malongo. Then, ideally, Malongo comes and ties the vote. Then you switch off and judge dies. That's what I was afraid of. I was ready to switch at the last moment but doing so earlier makes it so Malongo can't save himself.
I bet you Malongo didn't vote for judge because he was afraid of the same thing.
You're unpredictable and chaotic. I think I see why people don't like it when you play. It doesn't make you unreadable, it just screws up the game.

I know, telling everyone you were mafia... That must have made you sad... But look on the bright side! You didn't kill me last night so you might have granted yourself an extra day. Or I might be lucky and the town believes me for once.

I'm going to respond to this just to let you know I read it.
I like to bring issues to the table. You contribute nothing. Maybe if you didn't post in an ADHD manner and actually addressed my points, I would give you some respect. This is the attitude that causes chaos in this game. Guess who gains an advantage from chaos?
Yeah I'm sad. I'm not mafia and you try to pin me while I'm sleeping/at school? Have some manner ffs. I even told you I would be away.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 22:57 GMT
#454
On January 10 2010 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?

Hi.
You're spamming my inbox with shit.

Who says I can't be busy on a Saturday? It's called homework.

For posterity:

Chezinu Dear mikey 1/10 07:35 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu is it him? 1/9 15:15 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu dun dun dun 1/9 12:09 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu what role do you think I am> 1/9 06:55 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu you having fun? 1/9 06:22 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Hey guys! 1/8 20:52 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Dear Mafia 1/8 10:35 Save / Delete / U

ffs. You're on my personal ban list. I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved. If I fail to respond to a PM, stfu.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#457
As for what Zato is saying, there is nothing for me to "defend". Either you believe Chezinu or you don't. Then you vote based on what makes sense to you. Zato, you assume that I have something useful to give town. I don't. Neither does Chez. What useful last words should I post? Basic fundamentals of the game? How not to lynch people that are 100% town?
This game is beyond belief.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#458
On January 10 2010 08:00 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:57 mikeymoo wrote:
On January 10 2010 07:42 Chezinu wrote:
None of the mafia is pming me anymore... Mikeymoo hasn't talk to me in a long time and I sent him so many pm's. He didn't even tell me if he forwarded the pm's to his mafia buddies. I know he had school, but it is Saturday now.. So I'm just wondering, has the other two mafia talked to him recently? Is he upset that you guys went with my plan and voted to lynch him today to gain trust?

Hi.
You're spamming my inbox with shit.

Who says I can't be busy on a Saturday? It's called homework.

For posterity:

Chezinu Dear mikey 1/10 07:35 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu is it him? 1/9 15:15 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu dun dun dun 1/9 12:09 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu what role do you think I am> 1/9 06:55 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu you having fun? 1/9 06:22 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Hey guys! 1/8 20:52 Save / Delete / U
Chezinu Dear Mafia 1/8 10:35 Save / Delete / U

ffs. You're on my personal ban list. I now remember why I stopped playing mafia. It wasn't because of school, it's because of players like you that continually post/PM bs. I think it makes the game unenjoyable for everybody involved. If I fail to respond to a PM, stfu.


all you had to do was ask. I won't pm you anymore!

It really should be obvious, and it's kind of childish to keep going. No hard feelings, but it doesn't change the fact that I don't want to play with you. Mafia's not the only thing in my inbox/life.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 10 2010 05:58 GMT
#465
On January 10 2010 14:16 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 13:28 Scamp wrote:
Something is wrong here. I just can't put my finger on it, though.

L is okay with Chezinu's thoughts, and is relying on someone else to come up with something better.

Zato was pretty proactive day 1 then disappeared.

Ace isn't mad at anyone day 2, apparently.

And RoL is the most active.

Something is most definitely wrong.


Well anyway even if Mikey and Chez are both townies and we kill them both and the mafia gets one more kill, we'll have 7 people left with 3 mafia. MYLO at the worst.

But still, I just can't shake the feeling that there's something missing.


I'm not so much 'okay' with chez's thoughts, so much as I think that regardless of if he's bullshitting or not, mikey should be killed first. If mikey is mafia, we don't vig chez. If mikey is innocent, we vig chez.

Even if mikey flips mafia, I don't think that clears chez.

This last sentence. This is why you always kill the roleclaimer.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
January 10 2010 06:38 GMT
#473
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