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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
I honestly think we need to look at inactives now. The mafia would just sit back and watch ace kill himself while having to do nothing and bringing no suspicion to them. I know this includes me and if I'm caught in the crossfire of going after the inactives, oh well. I'm going to go eat now, someone should make a list of all the people who barely posted or didn't post from the start of ace yelling and his death. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On October 27 2009 10:34 Vivi57 wrote: ace played like shit and died because of it, I don't think we made any mistake killing him I honestly think we need to look at inactives now. The mafia would just sit back and watch ace kill himself while having to do nothing and bringing no suspicion to them. I know this includes me and if I'm caught in the crossfire of going after the inactives, oh well. I'm going to go eat now, someone should make a list of all the people who barely posted or didn't post from the start of ace yelling and his death. Not to personally point the finger at you, but this post is brilliant: What are people supposed to think when you tell people to look at inactives, then say you've been inactive and that you don't want to bother doing any of the work and are leaving? And not to ride his balls, but Ace made a very gutsy play, it was at least a move that produced a lot of content for us to look over. The only problem was the lack of kill confirmation from a night 1 agreed kill on day 2. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 27 2009 10:28 Tricode wrote: Well, my mind is going crazy with many curse words from what i just witnessed. Brilliant play. We should have waited! BTW people who voted for Ace Amber[LighT] Vivi57 RebirthOfLegend (from motbob) Shikyo And as Pyrr said, looks like most of our plans are dead. We might still have a dt out there, but after seeing the way we made Ace feel how welcomed that role is, let's see if he will be ever feeling free to jump out and help us directly with out us wondering if he is mafia. I know some of these guys have been under suspicion and should still be looked at closely. As far as a brilliant idea, I don't have any really right now, all i can think about is a few people who should be carefully considered for the next lynch and possibly a double lynch after that. That is my weak suggestion. I dunno, Ace was pissing a lot of people off I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of the mafia were hiding in the abstainers waiting to push ace up if anyone else caught fire. Anytime we have 8 abstainers we're probably gonna get fucked although if Ace was red then trying to save him would have probably just made things worse for the maf. Whatever, it's clear we need to come out of our sleepwalking state and wake up as a town and get organized/unified. Motbob's back and I don't think there's a DT that checked him so we should be talking about behavior analysis now. Right now I'm most suspicious of Chezinu. I dunno what this IRSC thing is but it seems to be a lot of fluff that's not helping town, changes votes a lot for superfluous reasons, etc. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On October 27 2009 10:49 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I dunno, Ace was pissing a lot of people off I wouldn't be surprised if most or all of the mafia were hiding in the abstainers waiting to push ace up if anyone else caught fire. Anytime we have 8 abstainers we're probably gonna get fucked although if Ace was red then trying to save him would have probably just made things worse for the maf. Whatever, it's clear we need to come out of our sleepwalking state and wake up as a town and get organized/unified. Motbob's back and I don't think there's a DT that checked him so we should be talking about behavior analysis now. Right now I'm most suspicious of Chezinu. I dunno what this IRSC thing is but it seems to be a lot of fluff that's not helping town, changes votes a lot for superfluous reasons, etc. Ace always pisses people off from games. If we just go decide to lynch people cause of that stupid reason, people would be listening to Redtooth and L and getting me killed, or I would be yelling at people to lynch L which is just stupid and pointless. We shouldn't let our reasoning be because of that. Like L said, Ace tried to do something, and cause Ace is how he is, people got suspicious and let their anger and bias get in the way. Personally I don't think i seen him actually act to much different from other games i have been with him. He did do some things different, but hey like he said, it was cause of the circumstances of this special mafia game. Even if Mafia did chill and watch the show (when it comes to votes), i would bet at least a min. of 1 voted for Ace. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Even if Mafia did chill and watch the show (when it comes to votes), i would bet at least a min. of 1 voted for Ace. How do people feel about this statement? I mean, its kinda jumping the gun, but if they knew he wasn't mafia, they probably knew his roleclaim was legit and wanted him offed. Does that mean they'd vote for him? From the voter list, most of the people who voted have been fingered for suspicion earlier, but I'm not entirely certain that ensures that at least one is mafia. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On October 27 2009 12:09 L wrote: How do people feel about this statement? I mean, its kinda jumping the gun, but if they knew he wasn't mafia, they probably knew his roleclaim was legit and wanted him offed. Does that mean they'd vote for him? From the voter list, most of the people who voted have been fingered for suspicion earlier, but I'm not entirely certain that ensures that at least one is mafia. With 8 abstainers I think you were right that people were afraid to take a side. Mafia probably took advantage of this and mostly did not vote. For example, for all of Shikyo's soapboxing and grandstanding, who was he really convincing either way? There wasn't any large influx of Ace votes after his and RoLs and others' posts. Had more people voted for the alternative candidates Vivi or Amber, I'm fairly certain more mafia would have come out of the woodwork and stacked some votes on Ace. But because so many people abstained and 2 didn't vote (including you L..), there wasn't any need for them to do so. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On October 27 2009 12:19 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: With 8 abstainers I think you were right that people were afraid to take a side. Mafia probably took advantage of this and mostly did not vote. For example, for all of Shikyo's soapboxing and grandstanding, who was he really convincing either way? There wasn't any large influx of Ace votes after his and RoLs and others' posts. Had more people voted for the alternative candidates Vivi or Amber, I'm fairly certain more mafia would have come out of the woodwork and stacked some votes on Ace. But because so many people abstained and 2 didn't vote (including you L..), there wasn't any need for them to do so. Even if you say they didn't need to, it doesn't mean they didn't. redtooth (from Vivi57) HeavOnEarth Bloodyc0bbler Tricode Scamp Incognito dreamflower No vote: 2 L motbob To say they didn't need to to vote or didn't vote would mean you would have to look at these guys here. Unless you are saying they threw their votes on the others. I could agree that there might be a 2-3 mafia members on this list of those who abstained/no vote. But do you really believe that they all didn't vote and if 1 or 2 did vote, that they didn't vote Ace? | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
if they did vote it would most likely be 1-2 on Ace, yes. why do you think I voted for Amber? | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 27 2009 12:09 L wrote: How do people feel about this statement? I mean, its kinda jumping the gun, but if they knew he wasn't mafia, they probably knew his roleclaim was legit and wanted him offed. Does that mean they'd vote for him? From the voter list, most of the people who voted have been fingered for suspicion earlier, but I'm not entirely certain that ensures that at least one is mafia. Well they obviously wanted him offed. I suppose its tough to say. If the first few people to vote for Ace were innocent they wouldn't have had to vote for him because of all the abstainers. Or maybe they freaked out at the prospect of a BG protected DT and all voted on him first and argued against him. Hard to say. I think Ace did himself no favors so he was suspicious enough that all of his voters might have been innocent. I don't think we can draw conclusions from it. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
three analysists down, and with a noose we dropped a crown with only a few analysists who still remain, the town will lean on them like a cane With the mafia most likely in those few, we might as well bow our heads in a pew | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
I think we should look into RoL first. Like I said, the lynch on Ace was stupid... now people need to step up and atone for their actions. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Shikyo looks pretty stupid too, going very far with his accusations. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 27 2009 13:05 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: EBWOP: Shikyo looks pretty stupid too, going very far with his accusations. Fail Whale | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On October 27 2009 12:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: with this last lynch, we are in a pinch three analysists down, and with a noose we dropped a crown with only a few analysists who still remain, the town will lean on them like a cane With the mafia most likely in those few, we might as well bow our heads in a pew May I suggest you stop posting like this is some kindergarten rhyme time and do some of the aforementioned analysis then? You aren't a second rate player, why are you on the sidelines? | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
Ace played HORRENDOUSLY. There is no other way to look at that. His actions were selfish and barely made sense. Acting like a complete prick never helps either. The phrase "Durrr" was also quite irksome. I think maybe there is one mafia. Possibly the person who initially started the Ace vote. It actually wasn't me who did it. I voted motbob, someone voted Ace. I decided Ace was a good call too because he was threatening to pardon basically anyone who we decided to lynch which is anti town. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On October 27 2009 13:57 L wrote: May I suggest you stop posting like this is some kindergarten rhyme time and do some of the aforementioned analysis then? You aren't a second rate player, why are you on the sidelines? because my specialty was removed from the game, so instead im opting to be lame I however have given insight, in how to win this fight yes its all in rhyme, but its not like being annoyings a crime | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On October 27 2009 13:59 BloodyC0bbler wrote: because my specialty was removed from the game, so instead im opting to be lame I however have given insight, in how to win this fight yes its all in rhyme, but its not like being annoyings a crime As mayor, I hereby decree that it IS a crime, ex post facto even. You are now under arrest and I'm printing wanted posters with Chezinu's mugshot. | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
VIVI57 Please at least try to listen to me for once :/ I know I fooled everyone in my first game when I was red, but I'm not red anymore, so fooling people isn't a requirement anymore.... (also being red is too easy, my role now is substantially harder). | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
L SugiuraMidori Please protect someone on this list tonight. There may not be any more DTs left but if so Vivi might be a good check. Now back to my two essays... | ||
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