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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 12:07:53
July 28 2012 12:07 GMT
#1621
he started too early, there is no 2nd chance in swimming
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#1622
It's the same for track, but a lot of people think it's a dumb rule. Although I heard it was asked to be put in by the athletes rather than any committee.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 28 2012 12:40 GMT
#1623
This Road Race is quite cool. Can anyone explain to me why the German and GB team is still staying with the same pack and not breaking away? Even thought they're still apperently heavy favourites according the commentators.
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Scodia
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom588 Posts
July 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#1624
I think its so they can control when the sprint to the finish starts, from what i've seen when you break away its harder and if u can't keep it up you drop back into the peloton. expect a increase in pace on the last lap of the hill or maybe on the final 50km to london. Not sure, this is my first road race to watch but its what i thinks happening.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 28 2012 12:57 GMT
#1625
Ah that makes sense. Yeh this is my first one too. They are catching up, I'm really looking forward to the last part of the race.
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radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
July 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#1626
Since it is a huge advantage not to be in the front and break the air, people will like to sit behind eachother. That is the reason for people staying in clumps. Next thing is: If you get more than 10-20 meters ahead of someone, the person behind will have no advantage in sittiln behind you and thus you are at an equal footing. Now the riders know exactly who are the fastest riders in groups and this year it is Cavendish (Great Britain), Sagan (Slovakia?) and Greipel (Germany). Everyone else have to gain a lead before the last ~1 km or it will be almost impossible to win against these three. Because of the huge advantage these riders have near the finish, the rest of the team will use all their powers to keep all people in a clump untill near the finish and hope their sprinter can win.
That is basically what is going on. At the moment there are some groups/a single rider in front of the pack, but the time up to the people in front is not significant enough yet to make it impossible or even hard for the pack to catch up.
Oh and climbs are the bane (or bain, LOL) of these three favourites. They are not as fast as the others uphill. Therefore the riders in front can increase their lead a bit on climbs.
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
July 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#1627
On July 28 2012 22:06 radiatoren wrote:
Since it is a huge advantage not to be in the front and break the air, people will like to sit behind eachother. That is the reason for people staying in clumps. Next thing is: If you get more than 10-20 meters ahead of someone, the person behind will have no advantage in sittiln behind you and thus you are at an equal footing. Now the riders know exactly who are the fastest riders in groups and this year it is Cavendish (Great Britain), Sagan (Slovakia?) and Greipel (Germany). Everyone else have to gain a lead before the last ~1 km or it will be almost impossible to win against these three. Because of the huge advantage these riders have near the finish, the rest of the team will use all their powers to keep all people in a clump untill near the finish and hope their sprinter can win.
That is basically what is going on. At the moment there are some groups/a single rider in front of the pack, but the time up to the people in front is not significant enough yet to make it impossible or even hard for the pack to catch up.
Oh and climbs are the bane (or bain, LOL) of these three favourites. They are not as fast as the others uphill. Therefore the riders in front can increase their lead a bit on climbs.


Don't forget Goss (Australia)! And Sagan is Slovenian.

I think a real spring classic rider is going to end up with the win. Someone like Chavanel or Gilbert.

I have little hope for my fellow countrymen. Boom is realistically the only one that could win.
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Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 28 2012 13:13 GMT
#1628
On July 28 2012 21:05 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 20:43 red4ce wrote:
Aw snap S. Korea's Park Tae Hwan dq'd from the 400m freestyle in the prelims. He was the defending olympic and world champion in the event and is pretty much S. Korea's only chance at medaling in swimming. He still has a chance at a medal in the 200m free but the 400 was by far his best event. New 400m favorite is probably China's Sun Yang now.


what did he do


Apparently, it was a false start, but I didn't see anything odd. A pity, but at least Ryan Napoleon (I believe, can't quite remember) jumped up another spot.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
July 28 2012 13:30 GMT
#1629
Good first day so far, Cav looking good and our gymnasts actually beat China in qualifying. The IM tonight should be awesome too.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 28 2012 13:31 GMT
#1630
On July 28 2012 21:57 Benjef wrote:
Ah that makes sense. Yeh this is my first one too. They are catching up, I'm really looking forward to the last part of the race.

They want to catch up as close to the finish line as possible, and will intentionally slow down if they feel they're getting too close. All britain wants is for everyone to arrive at the last km as 1 giant pack and then have cavendish clean up in the mass sprint.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
July 28 2012 13:37 GMT
#1631
A romanian just beat a japanese in Judo in the semifinal! No gold or silver for Japan in the female 48 kg! That seems like a surprise given that Japan took 1 and 2 in the 2011 world championships
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Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
July 28 2012 13:39 GMT
#1632
On July 28 2012 20:43 red4ce wrote:
Aw snap S. Korea's Park Tae Hwan dq'd from the 400m freestyle in the prelims. He was the defending olympic and world champion in the event and is pretty much S. Korea's only chance at medaling in swimming. He still has a chance at a medal in the 200m free but the 400 was by far his best event. New 400m favorite is probably China's Sun Yang now.


To be fair, I think Sun Yang was the favorite this year. He has the best time in the year by 2 secs. Still, it's always sad when an athlete is dq'd for something like that
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
July 28 2012 13:44 GMT
#1633
Does anyone have a stream link for the events?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
July 28 2012 13:49 GMT
#1634
On July 28 2012 22:44 Cubu wrote:
Does anyone have a stream link for the events?


If you are European, http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/london2012/

Coolsportz.tv - Schedule and check what they are streaming. Also: http://www.sportlemon.tv/
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 28 2012 13:54 GMT
#1635
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/blog=olympic-talk/post/gold-medal-favorite-disqualified-maybe-park-tae-hwan-london-olympics-2012.html

i watched the video myself, doesn't look like false start and didnt notice anything weird during the event but i'm ignorant when it comes to swimming rules. seems fishy that they wont review video......
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
July 28 2012 14:01 GMT
#1636
On July 28 2012 22:37 radiatoren wrote:
A romanian just beat a japanese in Judo in the semifinal! No gold or silver for Japan in the female 48 kg! That seems like a surprise given that Japan took 1 and 2 in the 2011 world championships


It's no surprise when you know that the Romanian took gold in 2008.
Dust14
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium490 Posts
July 28 2012 14:06 GMT
#1637
On July 28 2012 22:08 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 22:06 radiatoren wrote:
Since it is a huge advantage not to be in the front and break the air, people will like to sit behind eachother. That is the reason for people staying in clumps. Next thing is: If you get more than 10-20 meters ahead of someone, the person behind will have no advantage in sittiln behind you and thus you are at an equal footing. Now the riders know exactly who are the fastest riders in groups and this year it is Cavendish (Great Britain), Sagan (Slovakia?) and Greipel (Germany). Everyone else have to gain a lead before the last ~1 km or it will be almost impossible to win against these three. Because of the huge advantage these riders have near the finish, the rest of the team will use all their powers to keep all people in a clump untill near the finish and hope their sprinter can win.
That is basically what is going on. At the moment there are some groups/a single rider in front of the pack, but the time up to the people in front is not significant enough yet to make it impossible or even hard for the pack to catch up.
Oh and climbs are the bane (or bain, LOL) of these three favourites. They are not as fast as the others uphill. Therefore the riders in front can increase their lead a bit on climbs.


Don't forget Goss (Australia)! And Sagan is Slovenian.

I think a real spring classic rider is going to end up with the win. Someone like Chavanel or Gilbert.

I have little hope for my fellow countrymen. Boom is realistically the only one that could win.

He was right, Sagan is Slovakian and not Slovenian.
I hope you're right about the winner :p
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
July 28 2012 14:07 GMT
#1638
On July 28 2012 22:54 jinorazi wrote:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/blog=olympic-talk/post/gold-medal-favorite-disqualified-maybe-park-tae-hwan-london-olympics-2012.html

i watched the video myself, doesn't look like false start and didnt notice anything weird during the event but i'm ignorant when it comes to swimming rules. seems fishy that they wont review video......


Damn, I wasn't aware of that. This is bullshit. I hope the koreans can revert the situation.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 28 2012 14:08 GMT
#1639
On July 28 2012 22:54 jinorazi wrote:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/blog=olympic-talk/post/gold-medal-favorite-disqualified-maybe-park-tae-hwan-london-olympics-2012.html

i watched the video myself, doesn't look like false start and didnt notice anything weird during the event but i'm ignorant when it comes to swimming rules. seems fishy that they wont review video......

Well that sucks. Can't find a video anywhere. I really want to see this :S
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 28 2012 14:10 GMT
#1640
in the video that was analysed in german TV, he started before anyone else.
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