• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:23
CEST 19:23
KST 02:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1165.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Bot on ladder BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League ASL 22 Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10183 users

[S4WC] Quarterfinals - Page 81

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 173 Next
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#1601
On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote:
I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport...


Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him


He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.
I am the Town Medic.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#1602
On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai...


Lol what are you smoking because I want some.

Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick.

Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles.

His decisionmaking is a problem as well. He made around 10 stupid decisions this game. He's not some demigod and as I said earlier, he could just be a coach if he's so amazingly intelligent as a shotcaller.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
October 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#1603
Looking at this game.... how did C9 win game 1? Didn't catch the first game of the day >.<
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
October 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#1604
I hope that this wasn't the "special strat" C9 had prepared LOL
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
October 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#1605
On October 04 2014 16:07 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote:
I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane...


So do I, he had the jump on him, sure TF can zhonyas but he can't do shit for 3-4 seconds.


Surprised he didn't go in.

1/10/1 the Dyrus is real
@miicah88
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
October 04 2014 07:10 GMT
#1606
*sigh*

I really think that if C9 got that inhib from Hai's BD they would've still lost but it would've dragged out the game another 5-8 minutes, one more baron before the game would end.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 04 2014 07:10 GMT
#1607
secret agent zed

canceled skin
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
October 04 2014 07:10 GMT
#1608
Man dade's TF is fucking disgusting. Made huge plays consistently throughout the game.
Jaedong :D
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1609
On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:
On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote:
I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport...


Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him


He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.


Wasn't about getting a kill though. Rest of the team can't do anything if Hai 1v1s TF in the middle of the lane.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1610
On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:
On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote:
I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport...


Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him


He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.


He's Zed with a Yommu, if he didn't walk into minion vision the inhib was toast, even vs. a TF
Carrilord has arrived.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1611
Good, SSB back in it.
Administrator
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1612
On October 04 2014 16:10 Lmui wrote:
*sigh*

I really think that if C9 got that inhib from Hai's BD they would've still lost but it would've dragged out the game another 5-8 minutes, one more baron before the game would end.

They would have either lost baron 4v5 or Hai just would have died to the TF 1v1.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1613
Pls hai had a kill, he wishes he was dyrus vs OMG
Glorious SEA doto
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 07:12:05
October 04 2014 07:11 GMT
#1614
That twisted fate + twitch combo was real. cloud9 seemed to be caught off guard for it. I felt like they should have grouped up as 5 a lot earlier, but they didn't. This allowed Blue to capitalize on what their team comp was made for.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
October 04 2014 07:12 GMT
#1615
On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai...


Lol what are you smoking because I want some.

Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick.

Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles.


You can't train someone to be a mechanically gifted god

You CAN train someone to become a good shotcaller

Him and Lemonnation should just become head coaches of C9 and get actually good players mid and support
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 04 2014 07:12 GMT
#1616
honestly as big of a blowout as the final score looked, SSB was in some hot water if Dade didn't hard carry the mid game
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2014 07:12 GMT
#1617
On October 04 2014 16:11 ketchup wrote:
That twisted fate + twitch combo was real. cloud9 seemed to be caught off guard for it. I felt like they should have grouped up as 5 a lot earlier, but they didn't. This allowed Blue to capitalize on what their team comp was made for.

Grouping early against Rumble is a bad move.
liftlift > tsm
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#1618
On October 04 2014 16:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:
On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote:
Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai...


Lol what are you smoking because I want some.

Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick.

Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles.

His decisionmaking is a problem as well. He made around 10 stupid decisions this game. He's not some demigod and as I said earlier, he could just be a coach if he's so amazingly intelligent as a shotcaller.


Sorry, didn't realize coaches were in game telling the team what to do. Oh wait they aren't.

He made bad individual decisions but he's the main brain behind those crazy fucking rotations that nearly won them the tiebreaker against NJWS. Get your anti-Hai salt out of here.
SUNSFANNED
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#1619
On October 04 2014 16:11 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:
On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:
On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote:
I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport...


Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him


He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.


He's Zed with a Yommu, if he didn't walk into minion vision the inhib was toast, even vs. a TF


IIRC don't think he had bought the yoummus at that stage. Damn I enjoy watching C9 even when they are getting dumpstered.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 04 2014 07:13 GMT
#1620
If Samsung wants to win they should fp Kha next game if C9 bans lee again, Elise really fucking sucks currently. Spirit had 0 impact with kha the first 15min but just started rolling over them the moment they won a teamfight.
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 173 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
01:00
#130
Gerald vs NicoractLIVE!
Serral vs Percival
RotterdaM874
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 891
RotterdaM 874
UpATreeSC 87
BRAT_OK 40
ProTech35
MindelVK 6
JuggernautJason0
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4731
Bisu 990
Britney 692
EffOrt 612
BeSt 324
Stork 254
firebathero 140
Hyuk 129
Mind 78
Hyun 48
[ Show more ]
Trap 30
Killer 28
ToSsGirL 24
Hm[arnc] 23
Rock 19
Bishop 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
qojqva2552
canceldota49
Gorgc0
Counter-Strike
fl0m3380
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby2011
Other Games
hiko2049
Beastyqt623
B2W.Neo556
Khaldor526
WinterStarcraft419
Liquid`Hasu228
crisheroes175
KnowMe140
C9.Mang0126
QueenE57
Fuzer 40
Chillindude14
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 190
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 41
• Hinosc 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• ChaeLyn 5
• Michael_bg 4
• Azhi_Dahaki3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3153
League of Legends
• Nemesis2763
• Jankos1853
Other Games
• Shiphtur509
• imaqtpie291
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
9h 37m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 37m
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
16h 37m
WardiTV Invitational
17h 37m
AI Arena Tournament
22h 37m
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 1h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 16h
OSC
1d 19h
IPSL
1d 22h
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.