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On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote: I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport... Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him
He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.
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On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote: Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai... Lol what are you smoking because I want some. Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick. Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles. His decisionmaking is a problem as well. He made around 10 stupid decisions this game. He's not some demigod and as I said earlier, he could just be a coach if he's so amazingly intelligent as a shotcaller.
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Looking at this game.... how did C9 win game 1? Didn't catch the first game of the day >.<
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I hope that this wasn't the "special strat" C9 had prepared LOL
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On October 04 2014 16:07 schmutttt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote: I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... So do I, he had the jump on him, sure TF can zhonyas but he can't do shit for 3-4 seconds.
Surprised he didn't go in.
1/10/1 the Dyrus is real
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*sigh*
I really think that if C9 got that inhib from Hai's BD they would've still lost but it would've dragged out the game another 5-8 minutes, one more baron before the game would end.
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secret agent zed
canceled skin
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Man dade's TF is fucking disgusting. Made huge plays consistently throughout the game.
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On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote: I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport... Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.
Wasn't about getting a kill though. Rest of the team can't do anything if Hai 1v1s TF in the middle of the lane.
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On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote: I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport... Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point.
He's Zed with a Yommu, if he didn't walk into minion vision the inhib was toast, even vs. a TF
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On October 04 2014 16:10 Lmui wrote: *sigh*
I really think that if C9 got that inhib from Hai's BD they would've still lost but it would've dragged out the game another 5-8 minutes, one more baron before the game would end. They would have either lost baron 4v5 or Hai just would have died to the TF 1v1.
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Pls hai had a kill, he wishes he was dyrus vs OMG
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That twisted fate + twitch combo was real. cloud9 seemed to be caught off guard for it. I felt like they should have grouped up as 5 a lot earlier, but they didn't. This allowed Blue to capitalize on what their team comp was made for.
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On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote: Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai... Lol what are you smoking because I want some. Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick. Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles.
You can't train someone to be a mechanically gifted god
You CAN train someone to become a good shotcaller
Him and Lemonnation should just become head coaches of C9 and get actually good players mid and support
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honestly as big of a blowout as the final score looked, SSB was in some hot water if Dade didn't hard carry the mid game
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On October 04 2014 16:11 ketchup wrote: That twisted fate + twitch combo was real. cloud9 seemed to be caught off guard for it. I felt like they should have grouped up as 5 a lot earlier, but they didn't. This allowed Blue to capitalize on what their team comp was made for. Grouping early against Rumble is a bad move.
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On October 04 2014 16:09 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:06 BrownBear wrote:On October 04 2014 15:58 Shikyo wrote: Hmm now let's imagine C9 with Bjergsen as mid instead of Hai... Lol what are you smoking because I want some. Bjergsen would need to replace Hai's shotcalling, and oh my god does Bjergsen's shotcalling suck dick. Hai may not be great mechanically, but like all of C9, he brings tons of intangibles. His decisionmaking is a problem as well. He made around 10 stupid decisions this game. He's not some demigod and as I said earlier, he could just be a coach if he's so amazingly intelligent as a shotcaller.
Sorry, didn't realize coaches were in game telling the team what to do. Oh wait they aren't.
He made bad individual decisions but he's the main brain behind those crazy fucking rotations that nearly won them the tiebreaker against NJWS. Get your anti-Hai salt out of here.
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On October 04 2014 16:11 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2014 16:09 Alzadar wrote:On October 04 2014 16:08 Slusher wrote:On October 04 2014 16:07 Alzadar wrote: I think Hai had a much better chance if he just tried to 1v1 TF while skills were on CD bot lane... Even if he made it to the inhibitor unseen TF can teleport... Athene's TF with Zhonya can 2 rotation you before you can touch him He has a better chance fighting him when he's got the jump than at the inhibitor when TF knows what he's TPing into. He had to fight him at some point. He's Zed with a Yommu, if he didn't walk into minion vision the inhib was toast, even vs. a TF
IIRC don't think he had bought the yoummus at that stage. Damn I enjoy watching C9 even when they are getting dumpstered.
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If Samsung wants to win they should fp Kha next game if C9 bans lee again, Elise really fucking sucks currently. Spirit had 0 impact with kha the first 15min but just started rolling over them the moment they won a teamfight.
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