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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 05 2014 10:05 GMT
#2861
On October 05 2014 18:59 Lmui wrote:
Namei didn't play anywhere near as well as he was hyped up to be. He's on the level of an average AD, nothing special. His positioning is absolutely garbage for a top level AD.


Indeed. He IS the Dade, and EDG IS the Ozone of this year. You can't use the "they got out of groups" defense and be an honest person. Last year groups had 5 teams compared to 4.
Freeeeeeedom
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 05 2014 10:06 GMT
#2862
--- Nuked ---
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
October 05 2014 10:06 GMT
#2863
Zero was easily MVP of that last game. He saved Insec from himself when he went on his adventures around Baron Bush. The ONLY mistake noticeable was the missed pink early in the game that sat for 10-15 minutes. Zero is the glue holding this team together, Uzi just happens to be godly on things that have ranged auto attacks.
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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 05 2014 10:07 GMT
#2864
im just sad that Cloud 9 didnt win the tiebreaker game and went to this side of the bracket. They could have easily made semis, and possibly the finals.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 05 2014 10:07 GMT
#2865
On October 05 2014 19:03 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:02 ShootAnonymous wrote:
DLift is sooooooo biased towards UZI xD


doublelift is just a poor man's uzi.

krepo knows whats up, zero's janna is godly. I wonder if his janna will draw any bans though. his nami is pretty good but nothing like his janna. was not impressed by his thresh.


Even the casters said it, they only lost the games Janna was banned. It has to be banned. Uzi is going to be Uzi no matter what he picks, so its best not to waste bans on that.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
October 05 2014 10:10 GMT
#2866
On October 05 2014 19:05 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 18:59 Lmui wrote:
Namei didn't play anywhere near as well as he was hyped up to be. He's on the level of an average AD, nothing special. His positioning is absolutely garbage for a top level AD.


Indeed. He IS the Dade, and EDG IS the Ozone of this year. You can't use the "they got out of groups" defense and be an honest person. Last year groups had 5 teams compared to 4.


The thing is, Dade is the most successful domestic player (in terms of finals appearances) in an era where an average season of OGN The Champions has more high calibre opponents than the World Championships. NaMei is the most successful player in a league that cannot be compared to OGN The Champions in terms of overall calibre. He is an amazing player, but he cannot fall back on his domestic legacies like Dade can, because of the discrepancies of their respective domestic leagues.
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:11:26
October 05 2014 10:11 GMT
#2867
On October 05 2014 19:06 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:05 ShootAnonymous wrote:
KR-EN bi-linguist verify accuracy of translation pls~


accurate. was a super simple/short interview lol

Thanks!


I hope Zero stays with UZI in S5, if only because I can't see UZI transitioning to anyone else, but at the same time I want him to be on a better *cough*korean*cough* team where he doesn't have to keep saving teammates from themselves. Then again being a firefighter might very well be his true calling
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 05 2014 10:12 GMT
#2868
On October 05 2014 19:07 IMoperator wrote:
im just sad that Cloud 9 didnt win the tiebreaker game and went to this side of the bracket. They could have easily made semis, and possibly the finals.

Intra-LPL games always look like this since at least S2 Hecarim goon squads

But they've proven that they still stomp anyone who isn't Korean (and up until early 2013 could match Koreans r i p W E)
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 05 2014 10:13 GMT
#2869
On October 05 2014 19:10 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:05 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 18:59 Lmui wrote:
Namei didn't play anywhere near as well as he was hyped up to be. He's on the level of an average AD, nothing special. His positioning is absolutely garbage for a top level AD.


Indeed. He IS the Dade, and EDG IS the Ozone of this year. You can't use the "they got out of groups" defense and be an honest person. Last year groups had 5 teams compared to 4.


The thing is, Dade is the most successful domestic player (in terms of finals appearances) in an era where an average season of OGN The Champions has more high calibre opponents than the World Championships. NaMei is the most successful player in a league that cannot be compared to OGN The Champions in terms of overall calibre. He is an amazing player, but he cannot fall back on his domestic legacies like Dade can, because of the discrepancies of their respective domestic leagues.

Yeah but he was considered by many to be the best ADC in China. I think that's a pretty meaningful title to have for that particular position.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:15:09
October 05 2014 10:14 GMT
#2870
On October 05 2014 19:10 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:05 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 18:59 Lmui wrote:
Namei didn't play anywhere near as well as he was hyped up to be. He's on the level of an average AD, nothing special. His positioning is absolutely garbage for a top level AD.


Indeed. He IS the Dade, and EDG IS the Ozone of this year. You can't use the "they got out of groups" defense and be an honest person. Last year groups had 5 teams compared to 4.


The thing is, Dade is the most successful domestic player (in terms of finals appearances) in an era where an average season of OGN The Champions has more high calibre opponents than the World Championships. NaMei is the most successful player in a league that cannot be compared to OGN The Champions in terms of overall calibre. He is an amazing player, but he cannot fall back on his domestic legacies like Dade can, because of the discrepancies of their respective domestic leagues.


I am just talking about hype/worlds performance. I mean, Ozone ended worlds 5-4 after losing the tiebreaker, EDG is 6-6 in the end.

People seem to have been retroactively walking back their China hype since day 1 when White stomped EDG, but we shouldn't forget how ridiculous it was.
Freeeeeeedom
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:16:10
October 05 2014 10:15 GMT
#2871
On October 05 2014 19:10 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:05 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 18:59 Lmui wrote:
Namei didn't play anywhere near as well as he was hyped up to be. He's on the level of an average AD, nothing special. His positioning is absolutely garbage for a top level AD.


Indeed. He IS the Dade, and EDG IS the Ozone of this year. You can't use the "they got out of groups" defense and be an honest person. Last year groups had 5 teams compared to 4.


The thing is, Dade is the most successful domestic player (in terms of finals appearances) in an era where an average season of OGN The Champions has more high calibre opponents than the World Championships. NaMei is the most successful player in a league that cannot be compared to OGN The Champions in terms of overall calibre. He is an amazing player, but he cannot fall back on his domestic legacies like Dade can, because of the discrepancies of their respective domestic leagues.

best ADC in China is a pretty significant title considering it was/is home to WeiXiao and UZI. Plus you've seen for yourself how ADC-targeting CN teams are.

His Worlds performance has severely damaged his rep though, lol.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 05 2014 10:18 GMT
#2872
Yea...you could brush off Namei's performance in groups as nerves or unfamiliarity against non-Chinese teams, but today he just played...mediocre. Based on his play today he's nowhere near the title of best AD carry China, much less world.

I mean, Uzi just styled all over him except in game 4. Ffs, Namei almost single handedly threw game 3 for EDG multiple times.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
October 05 2014 10:20 GMT
#2873
On October 05 2014 19:12 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:07 IMoperator wrote:
im just sad that Cloud 9 didnt win the tiebreaker game and went to this side of the bracket. They could have easily made semis, and possibly the finals.

Intra-LPL games always look like this since at least S2 Hecarim goon squads

But they've proven that they still stomp anyone who isn't Korean (and up until early 2013 could match Koreans r i p W E)

Nah, this year I'd say NA/EU are definitely stronger. EDG got a free group, TSM went 1-1 against SHRC, and then completely threw the game to not have the tiebreaker and OMG was literally 1 auto attack from a 1-1 to Fnatic. Saying China stomping anyone who isnt korean is pretty untrue..
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
October 05 2014 10:26 GMT
#2874
So assuming Najin wins tomorrow we'd get a Ro4 with 17 out of 20 players from Korea and 4 Korean head coaches ? Lol.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:31:13
October 05 2014 10:27 GMT
#2875
http://www.weibo.com/3165008832/BqaElwfot?mod=weibotime

Cloud going to playing with OMG instead of Dada777!!!
\o/

明天OMG首发阵容确定如下:TOP/gogoing,JUNGLE/loveling,MID/cool,ADC/san,SUPPORT/cloud,辅助诺夏cloud,作为本赛季的新人首次登上世界舞台,希望大家给予他支持,感谢Riot公司、腾讯公司对OMG的关注与支持,感谢粉丝和赞助商对我们的支持,我们明天见!

Tomorrow's starting lineup for OMG is as follows: TOP/gogoing,JUNGLE/loveling,MID/cool,ADC/san,SUPPORT/cloud. This is Cloud's, this season's newcomer's, debut on the international stage, we hope everyone can give him their support. We thank Riot and TengXun's support and attention, fans and sponsors for their support, see you tomorrow!
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 05 2014 10:28 GMT
#2876
Don't think they will win still but maybe we can get some good games at least.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
October 05 2014 10:34 GMT
#2877
How good is Cloud anyway?

Will it be like Cop/Elementz upgraded to Cop/Xpecial?

ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
October 05 2014 10:35 GMT
#2878
On October 05 2014 19:34 Kavas wrote:
How good is Cloud anyway?

Will it be like Cop/Elementz upgraded to Cop/Xpecial?


My memory of Cloud's play is pretty blurry, but looking at Dada...
Yes. He's at the very very very very least proficient and can land skillshots
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 05 2014 10:38 GMT
#2879
On October 05 2014 19:35 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:34 Kavas wrote:
How good is Cloud anyway?

Will it be like Cop/Elementz upgraded to Cop/Xpecial?


My memory of Cloud's play is pretty blurry, but looking at Dada...
Yes. He's at the very very very very least proficient and can land skillshots


First time on big stage could mean choke though.
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 10:50:25
October 05 2014 10:46 GMT
#2880
On October 05 2014 19:38 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 19:35 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On October 05 2014 19:34 Kavas wrote:
How good is Cloud anyway?

Will it be like Cop/Elementz upgraded to Cop/Xpecial?


My memory of Cloud's play is pretty blurry, but looking at Dada...
Yes. He's at the very very very very least proficient and can land skillshots


First time on big stage could mean choke though.

Time to find out if it's possible to choke harder than Dada777's regular performance

On October 05 2014 19:47 Fusilero wrote:
Cloud played well, to put people's expectations down for a moment no he is not literally Chinese mata and he will not magically solo carry OMG but he's a solid support with a great thresh, good teamfighter and overall just better than dada


True. the China Talk ppl's super-effusive praise of him made me side-eye them quite a bit.
And Cloud's return may or may not improve the team's synergy (synergy is overrated, but OMG'll need it to take down NJWS)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
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