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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 26 2014 13:53 GMT
#5861
da bait club

is this for real
WriterXiao8~~
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 26 2014 13:54 GMT
#5862
On September 26 2014 22:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:47 DraStic8 wrote:
looks like fnatic got too over confident this game. they still riding that high from ssb victory...

I agree. They played way too agressive when they didnt have to. Just had to come out even in early mid game and they would have been totally fine.


Peke picking a nerfed-to-oblivion champion over something much safer and/or a lane bully like Orianna/Syndra is what made them lose

He died twice in a row to a Zilean (what...) which allowed Cool to roam top multiple times and gangbang Soaz constantly

Before the ganks he was 100cs vs 100cs and doing fine

Kass Mid also no longer has any damage to be a real threat against a comp that runs Mid Zilean which will revive an Irelia/Kog carries at 100%hp every 25 seconds
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 26 2014 13:54 GMT
#5863
when you rig games in sports you don't tell everyone in the entire organization about it, every extra person that knows drastically increases your chances of being caught. once you get the former samsung white member dade on board with the plan it's better not to tell deft/others so they have plausible deniability and you minimize the chance of a leak.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 13:56:23
September 26 2014 13:55 GMT
#5864
Well don't you sort of need to be aggressive with Kassadin? I mean, Kassadin's lategame really isn't nearly as powerful anymore so I don't see the afk farming strat until 40 minutes working out that well.

Don't agree with the pick, no.

I don't agree with that teemo skin in the bait picture, by the way.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
September 26 2014 13:57 GMT
#5865
Apple pie? Really?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
September 26 2014 13:59 GMT
#5866
Replacing Soaz in the middle of WC would give FNC better results, that's how bad he is. He doesn't have the mental anymore, he goes on tilt so easily that teams that figure it out will just camp him to death.
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
September 26 2014 13:59 GMT
#5867
On September 26 2014 22:54 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:48 Redox wrote:
On September 26 2014 22:47 DraStic8 wrote:
looks like fnatic got too over confident this game. they still riding that high from ssb victory...

I agree. They played way too agressive when they didnt have to. Just had to come out even in early mid game and they would have been totally fine.


Peke picking a nerfed-to-oblivion champion over something much safer and/or a lane bully like Orianna/Syndra is what made them lose

He died twice in a row to a Zilean (what...) which allowed Cool to roam top multiple times and gangbang Soaz constantly

Before the ganks he was 100cs vs 100cs and doing fine

Kass Mid also no longer has any damage to be a real threat against a comp that runs Mid Zilean which will revive an Irelia/Kog carries at 100%hp every 25 seconds


just quoting for truth, also it's painful to see kassadin q and the shield expire while the bomb goes off 2 seconds later, probably just an awful matchup, picking into it is ... questionable
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 26 2014 13:59 GMT
#5868
On September 26 2014 22:54 chalice wrote:
when you rig games in sports you don't tell everyone in the entire organization about it, every extra person that knows drastically increases your chances of being caught. once you get the former samsung white member dade on board with the plan it's better not to tell deft/others so they have plausible deniability and you minimize the chance of a leak.

How do you imagine it, Dade just intentionally plays bad and the rest of his team just can't carry? I guess it would work if he's the shotcaller.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 14:04:55
September 26 2014 14:03 GMT
#5869
On September 26 2014 22:59 Sakray wrote:
Replacing Soaz in the middle of WC would give FNC better results, that's how bad he is. He doesn't have the mental anymore, he goes on tilt so easily that teams that figure it out will just camp him to death.


i wouldn't exaggerate, he is still middle of the pack, could've smelled the first gank though (elise not showing at bottom camps) and he must have derped lategame (which i missed). getting constantly 1v3ed under tower kills you, plain and simple. i rate him slightly above wickd
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 26 2014 14:10 GMT
#5870
On September 26 2014 22:59 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:54 chalice wrote:
when you rig games in sports you don't tell everyone in the entire organization about it, every extra person that knows drastically increases your chances of being caught. once you get the former samsung white member dade on board with the plan it's better not to tell deft/others so they have plausible deniability and you minimize the chance of a leak.

How do you imagine it, Dade just intentionally plays bad and the rest of his team just can't carry? I guess it would work if he's the shotcaller.

maybe you have to get spirit involved too, but mid+jungle is enough to 100% change the outcome regardless of what the rest of the team does and dade choking at worlds is an easy excuse that people will eat up.

no one will ever know, but seriously, when was the last time anyone has seen an ahri on a underdog team not be useless?
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
September 26 2014 14:11 GMT
#5871
well if Fnatic and Alliance end the day both 1-2 they can still mount a comeback without needing blunder of others...

bah tristana -.-
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
September 26 2014 14:11 GMT
#5872
That was perfect team comp for Yasuo. No idea why Froggen prefer Fizz.
u_insung
Profile Joined November 2010
37 Posts
September 26 2014 14:12 GMT
#5873
Are you guys serious about the SSB intentional loss early in group stage? They just derped. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 26 2014 14:13 GMT
#5874
--- Nuked ---
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 14:17:50
September 26 2014 14:13 GMT
#5875
alliance no waveclear or poke, better not fall behind

phew, no worries, just farm the rumble-minion top and get rich
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 26 2014 14:15 GMT
#5876
On September 26 2014 23:12 u_insung wrote:
Are you guys serious about the SSB intentional loss early in group stage? They just derped. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.


No one said so except lastshadow.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
September 26 2014 14:16 GMT
#5877
LEP pls

that was like most obvious gank timing
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22488 Posts
September 26 2014 14:17 GMT
#5878
On September 26 2014 23:15 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 23:12 u_insung wrote:
Are you guys serious about the SSB intentional loss early in group stage? They just derped. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.


No one said so except lastshadow.

even if SSB wanted to avoid winning the group they would throw against LMQ who are 2-0 and not against Fnatic.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 26 2014 14:18 GMT
#5879
On September 26 2014 23:12 u_insung wrote:
Are you guys serious about the SSB intentional loss early in group stage? They just derped. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.


People really like their conspiracy theories. I dislike it a lot, but you can't stop people from pursuing the drama.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
September 26 2014 14:18 GMT
#5880
On September 26 2014 23:10 chalice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2014 22:59 AlterKot wrote:
On September 26 2014 22:54 chalice wrote:
when you rig games in sports you don't tell everyone in the entire organization about it, every extra person that knows drastically increases your chances of being caught. once you get the former samsung white member dade on board with the plan it's better not to tell deft/others so they have plausible deniability and you minimize the chance of a leak.

How do you imagine it, Dade just intentionally plays bad and the rest of his team just can't carry? I guess it would work if he's the shotcaller.

maybe you have to get spirit involved too, but mid+jungle is enough to 100% change the outcome regardless of what the rest of the team does and dade choking at worlds is an easy excuse that people will eat up.

no one will ever know, but seriously, when was the last time anyone has seen an ahri on a underdog team not be useless?


I'm sure Dade willingly threw the game so the Korean community could collectively shit on him like they did last time at worlds.
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