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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
May 10 2014 13:31 GMT
#2321
Not sure Link's going to dodge as many bombs as Faker.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 10 2014 13:31 GMT
#2322
damn they keep banning kassadin over thresh Xiyang's been looking rather mediocre and Allen hardcarried 2 games on thresh.
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
May 10 2014 13:33 GMT
#2323
On May 10 2014 22:30 Salazarz wrote:
C9 didn't lose teamfights just because Allen hit key hooks; they lost teamfights because they didn't have a team comp and instead just 5 champions more or less tacked onto each other. You can't pick a 'comp' where pretty much every champion has a completely different focus and expect to do well fighting 5v5 vs what is one of the best possible teamfighting comps. The only semblance of 'synergy' in C9's picks was Eve + Zyra ults. Their only chance to win 5v5s would've been baiting OMG into overextending to land a good Zyra/Eve combo on the turnaround, but that never happened due to misplays and lack of vision - nevermind that it's not something you can pull off reliably against a team as experienced as OMG, anyway.

Not to take anything away from Allen, his Thresh is amazing - but simply banning Thresh wouldn't have changed anything in that game.


I agree the team composition for c9 wasn't ideal for team fighting, mostly because of the Nidalee, but they were ahead. Balls especially would have wrecked them and he was hooked every time. OMG did poorly this game and even though they were a stronger team fighting composition I think they would have lost those fights if Allen didn't land those hooks.
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece724 Posts
May 10 2014 13:34 GMT
#2324
ok c9 have a good comp this time, lets see.
and people please stop pretending that leaving 4.6 kassadin open is an option. if you wanna ban thresh you leave leblanc open.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
May 10 2014 13:34 GMT
#2325
On May 10 2014 22:30 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2014 22:23 krutopatkin wrote:
Allen has a very pleasing facial structure


not gonna lie, xiyang is the best looking chinese guy i've seen. dude is handsome.

OMG in general are very good looking, especially in comparison to many of the Chinese Dota players.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 13:36:08
May 10 2014 13:35 GMT
#2326
LOL Link blind-skilled shield and couldn't check the brush/kill Shyv.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9243 Posts
May 10 2014 13:39 GMT
#2327
That 300 chant for Panth haha
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 10 2014 13:39 GMT
#2328
Chinese roam too good. I think C9 should have just rushed down the top tower instead of letting it kill the extra wave. The extra pressure would have helped a lot.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
May 10 2014 13:42 GMT
#2329
Ward coverage so strong from OMG this game.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
May 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#2330
wtf balls saw him too.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#2331
And gg right there.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2014 13:43 GMT
#2332
Yea this is over
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
May 10 2014 13:44 GMT
#2333
This looks over already, really strong play from OMG.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 13:45:30
May 10 2014 13:44 GMT
#2334
On May 10 2014 22:33 Pantagruel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2014 22:30 Salazarz wrote:
C9 didn't lose teamfights just because Allen hit key hooks; they lost teamfights because they didn't have a team comp and instead just 5 champions more or less tacked onto each other. You can't pick a 'comp' where pretty much every champion has a completely different focus and expect to do well fighting 5v5 vs what is one of the best possible teamfighting comps. The only semblance of 'synergy' in C9's picks was Eve + Zyra ults. Their only chance to win 5v5s would've been baiting OMG into overextending to land a good Zyra/Eve combo on the turnaround, but that never happened due to misplays and lack of vision - nevermind that it's not something you can pull off reliably against a team as experienced as OMG, anyway.

Not to take anything away from Allen, his Thresh is amazing - but simply banning Thresh wouldn't have changed anything in that game.


I agree the team composition for c9 wasn't ideal for team fighting, mostly because of the Nidalee, but they were ahead. Balls especially would have wrecked them and he was hooked every time. OMG did poorly this game and even though they were a stronger team fighting composition I think they would have lost those fights if Allen didn't land those hooks.


They weren't enough ahead at any point in the game for it to make up for the sub-par comp, I don't think. And well, if Allen wasn't on Thresh landing hooks, it's not like he'd be just missing from the game; having virtually any kind of a disable would probably be enough to keep Jax from doing anything in these fights.

edit: that said, Thresh is absolutely carrying this game :p
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
May 10 2014 13:44 GMT
#2335
In NA that play to dragon would work because the enemy team wouldn't collapse in time, not so when playing better competition.
日本語が分かりますか
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
May 10 2014 13:44 GMT
#2336
Strats = saved, sands = bagged
Glorious SEA doto
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
May 10 2014 13:45 GMT
#2337
Yeah.... if only C9 had gotten a decent comp first game. Looks like an 0-2 day today.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 10 2014 13:45 GMT
#2338
Remember a lot of C9's early advantage was 1) gold spent on wards 2) Lemon having a gold generation item (Allen had Relic shield, but he was actually tied in CS with Lemon), as well as utilizing Eve ganks. OMG opted to get core items as fast as possible instead and pretty much neglected all the early game advantage C9 had. Also C9 took a lot of risks that payed off at first, but eventaully started backfiring. Casters thought that Zyra will be an answer to OMG's engages, but OMG played very well around it.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22519 Posts
May 10 2014 13:46 GMT
#2339
sneaky ran in that hook so bad >< He really isnt playing as well as he was the last 2 days.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
May 10 2014 13:48 GMT
#2340
i think link wants this win alot more than any of c9 do
jaedong the man with the huge dong
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