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On April 28 2014 00:27 Slusher wrote:
IDK me personally I feel like people focus too hard on Reigon lock for why LCS > WCS. Honestly as long as LCS is a LAN and WCS is not a LAN, they will continue to get rolled in viewers even if NA LCS became all foreign teams and WCS went to full NA players.
you obviously have no idea about how much stories are in NA LCS and most of them are made because these people are part of NA You wont have the same stories and personalities if u replace all na teams with "faceless" koreans.
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Why would they be faceless if they in a studio every week living in NA?
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United States37500 Posts
At the end of the day, fans like winners. Assuming EG manages to stay in NA LCS, do you think fans will cheer harder for them or LMQ?
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lol na pro's personalities lol storylines
LMQ members already have more "personality" than all of OMG combined because western fans talk about them more.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 28 2014 00:27 Slusher wrote:
IDK me personally I feel like people focus too hard on Reigon lock for why LCS > WCS. Honestly as long as LCS is a LAN and WCS is not a LAN, they will continue to get rolled in viewers even if NA LCS became all foreign teams and WCS went to full NA players.
Kidding? LAN and lack of LAN for Ro32 in WCS has no relations with stream numbers, it's just amount of casual viewers who prefer to watch League of Legends to SC2.
SC2 has way more better storylines than LoL or even DotA but for casuals League is way better to watch and props to Riot, they improved immensely with those analyst desks and other ESPN-esque stuff.
On April 28 2014 01:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
At the end of the day, fans like winners. Assuming EG manages to stay in NA LCS, do you think fans will cheer harder for them or LMQ?
EG still have fans or at least guys like me who was cheering hard for CLG.eu back in the days.
Yellowpete, Snoopeh and Krepo, especially Pete for one is incredible personality in real life, i never enjoyed speaking to any pro in any game so much, except for Loda, Akke and Kelly.
On April 28 2014 01:39 AlterKot wrote:
lol na pro's personalities lol storylines
LMQ members already have more "personality" than all of OMG combined because western fans talk about them more.
If LMQ fucks Uzi and brings Cool to mid, even i will cheer for them lol.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
LMQ should bring cool, uzi and tabe over :>
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I think bringing up viewers obscured my point, LAN vs not LAN is basically the greatest single attribute for me when it comes to choosing what to watch, online tournaments even in a superior (on your personal ranking of what you like to watch) game aren't as interesting as LAN.
for me personally even when I used to watch a ton of sc2, I never watched anything that was not a lan, because why?
what I was trying to get at with the WCS views thing is, I don't believe it's the lack of NA players keeping the numbers down, I Just think thats something people are tunneling on, instead of the fact that the tournament is not 100% lan. So now that LCS is moving into having foreign team territory I have no fear for losing fans, because it is still a lan.
I hope that is more clear, I can understand where the first one seemed like a game comparison
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On April 28 2014 01:49 Slusher wrote:
I think bringing up viewers obscured my point, LAN vs not LAN is basically the greatest single attribute for me when it comes to choosing what to watch, online tournaments even in a superior (on your personal ranking of what you like to watch) game aren't as interesting as LAN.
for me personally even when I used to watch a ton of sc2, I never watched anything that was not a lan, because why?
what I was trying to get at with the WCS views thing is, I don't believe it's the lack of NA players keeping the numbers down, I Just think thats something people are tunneling on, instead of the fact that the tournament is not 100% lan. So now that LCS is moving into having foreign team territory I have no fear for losing fans, because it is still a lan.
I hope that is more clear, I can understand where the first one seemed like a game comparison
Numbers are ok for WCS, hell, even Proleague makes 25k+ viewers for each day consistently except for tonight because there is Dreamhack Bucharest right now.
There are just way less players/viewers for sc2 than there are for lol.
And dunno, NA part of WCS has Bomber, Jaedong and TaeJa, probably 3 guys with biggest fanbases in sc2 right now, if not count Mvp who is loved by everyone and maybe Life.
Noone cares about foreigners nowdays, especially after Nani's pause, Scarlett's absence and Stephano retirement, and Welmu/Vortix don't have the hype + there is Snute who is loved by everyone as well as Mvp or Jaedong.
Okay, let's go.
My bets for tonight:
- Bischu or Pobelter chokes hard and go on tilt.
- Westrice will retire after tonight's games.
That's it.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Let's go C9T !!!!! 
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EG should be able to defend their spot just the question is what will the score be.
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On April 28 2014 01:49 Slusher wrote:
I think bringing up viewers obscured my point, LAN vs not LAN is basically the greatest single attribute for me when it comes to choosing what to watch, online tournaments even in a superior (on your personal ranking of what you like to watch) game aren't as interesting as LAN.
for me personally even when I used to watch a ton of sc2, I never watched anything that was not a lan, because why?
what I was trying to get at with the WCS views thing is, I don't believe it's the lack of NA players keeping the numbers down, I Just think thats something people are tunneling on, instead of the fact that the tournament is not 100% lan. So now that LCS is moving into having foreign team territory I have no fear for losing fans, because it is still a lan.
I hope that is more clear, I can understand where the first one seemed like a game comparison
This is pretty spot-on, I think. I like LAN environments >>>>>>> online, almost regardless of skill level. It is probably from the old BW days where it was LAN or you were probably cheating.
Get hyyyyyped. C9T 3-2 over EG in a heartbreaking game 5 baron throw.
Predictions:
Krepo gets more kills than Pete. Yazuki 1v1s Innox twice. Snoopeh misses 2 smites. Altec takes telepot again.
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On April 28 2014 01:39 AlterKot wrote:
lol na pro's personalities lol storylines
LMQ members already have more "personality" than all of OMG combined because western fans talk about them more.
People talk about LMQ because they are 1 Chinese team next to 7 western teams. If LMQ were 1 out of 8 Chinese teams noone would care about them.
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Best scenario:
EG drops out and Krepo takes Quikshot's spot as LCS EU color caster
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inb4 yellowpete shits on Altec
e: because he's now asian apparently!
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Lomopete is surprisingly... Asian
And pobeleteresque
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I'm torn, because I like Krepo/Pobelter a lot, but I'd love to see Bischu and Altec in the LCS.
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They got a laugh out of me. Anyways, I foresee a Soraka ban in all three games unless someone has not been doing their homework.
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all split long eg was playing pretty bad so since i dont know how good c9t are i have no idea who wins.
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EPT
