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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2281
On April 21 2014 09:07 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.

You maxed that last though, so it's not like it had any effect pre level 14-15, it's not like he was getting 15% cdr from level 6 from his e~

I'm not trying to say cdr is bad, obviously it's really good, but it's not like he had infinity cdr from his e before.


his base ult cd was also nerfed.

I mean like the bottom line is you need to get over it this build(or varations of it) are something like 5-0 in OGN and drawing bans, so it's here to stay.
Carrilord has arrived.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2282
Burgerking: "WHO FED THIS JAX?? FUCK YOU DYRUS"
TranslatorBaa!
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2283
On April 21 2014 09:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what? Snoopeh's Eve against C9 wasn't as bad.


Let's not be overly dramatic please, that was possibly the worst performance I've ever seen a jungler have in the LCS.

He wasn't just bad, he was like a 6th player for C9.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 21 2014 00:10 GMT
#2284
On April 21 2014 09:09 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what? Snoopeh's Eve against C9 wasn't as bad.


Let's not be overly dramatic please, that was possibly the worst performance I've ever seen a jungler have in the LCS.

He wasn't just bad, he was like a 6th player for C9.


At least we saw it.
This game there is just no Evelynn.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 21 2014 00:10 GMT
#2285
Such crisp coordination. C9 really deserves a lot of credit for this series.
Off-season = best season
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#2286
C9 MVP IS:+ Show Spoiler +
Dyrus!
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#2287
On April 21 2014 09:05 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:02 killerdog wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.

Using morellonomicons to "counter heals" is a bit of a stretch, they just have to burn their heals slightly earlier before the targets fall below 40% (and then have a tf skill/auto hit them.) It's not like there's a mundo who'll be sitting at sub 40% while healing for extended periods of time.

Then you have issues where the morello team can bait out heals by only half committing to a fight and then backing out. "heal early" isn't without counterplay.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.

And Athene's provides adequate CDR for that aswell. Yet Morellos was taken.


Yes. In SoloQ I build Athene's. But Morello's cheaper and still provides some mana regen (healing reduction is cute, too). It's a trade off.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
April 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#2288
C9 and Fnatic won their region's LCS split AGAIN. Damn. Though this NA split was far more competitive to everyone else's credit
Platinum Support GOD
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 21 2014 00:11 GMT
#2289
Is Dyrus R on auto-fire mode ?
The legend of Darien lives on
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 21 2014 00:12 GMT
#2290
I feel like dyrus needs mercs, it's not like he's been having to 1v1 jax much, and he's getting stunlocked to hell in every teamfight
daSilvaz
Profile Joined June 2011
809 Posts
April 21 2014 00:12 GMT
#2291
Not even close, FreeSM :O
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 21 2014 00:12 GMT
#2292
On April 21 2014 09:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:09 Swords wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
You know what? Snoopeh's Eve against C9 wasn't as bad.


Let's not be overly dramatic please, that was possibly the worst performance I've ever seen a jungler have in the LCS.

He wasn't just bad, he was like a 6th player for C9.


At least we saw it.
This game there is just no Evelynn.


Well yea, in terms of entertainment, Snoopeh definitely beats out this game from OddOne.

We've seen about as much jungle presence as OddOne's body sees vitamin C.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2293
i think xpecial might actually kill himself after this game
TSM
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2294
On April 21 2014 09:07 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.

You maxed that last though, so it's not like it had any effect pre level 14-15, it's not like he was getting 15% cdr from level 6 from his e~

I'm not trying to say cdr is bad, obviously it's really good, but it's not like he had infinity cdr from his e before.


True, it's a combination of his R CD and removal of CDR from E.

But note that once you are almost max level, his E provides a huge amount of free CDR. He didn't need to build CDR in S3 because his E provided him with plenty of that in mid-late game.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2295
Inb4 Bjergsen pulls an Edward and comes back to Europe hue hue hue
The legend of Darien lives on
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2296
So overall kill score is sth like 50ish : 6 ?
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2297
lol @ TSM

freaking owned
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:14:07
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2298
C9 just dominated that game.

Scratch that, series.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2299
C9 beats C9 B-team.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 21 2014 00:13 GMT
#2300
On April 21 2014 09:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Inb4 Bjergsen pulls an Edward and comes back to Europe hue hue hue

and plays poorly all season?
liftlift > tsm
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