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Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 21 2014 00:03 GMT
#2261
dyrus is gonna be so emo after this series lol
TSM
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2262
it's not like Morello's doesn't have 75ap for 2200 gold.
Carrilord has arrived.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2263
lol that had to be least early game pressure from eve i have ever seen
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2264
TSM got rektd.

Dyrus why so weak? '_'
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2265
On April 21 2014 09:03 Gator wrote:
dyrus is gonna be so emo after this series lol

what else is new? Dyrus always emo after TSM loses because of him.
liftlift > tsm
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2266
Man I was hoping for at least one more game but seems tsm are just outmatched
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 21 2014 00:04 GMT
#2267
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:06:12
April 21 2014 00:05 GMT
#2268
On April 21 2014 09:04 kongoline wrote:
lol that had to be least early game pressure from eve i have ever seen


Seriously, they might as well have made him invisible in spectator mode too.

(a big part of it though is probably OddOne completely missing a deep pink ward Hai put in the TSM jungle.)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:06:55
April 21 2014 00:05 GMT
#2269
On April 21 2014 09:02 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.

Using morellonomicons to "counter heals" is a bit of a stretch, they just have to burn their heals slightly earlier before the targets fall below 40% (and then have a tf skill/auto hit them.) It's not like there's a mundo who'll be sitting at sub 40% while healing for extended periods of time.

Then you have issues where the morello team can bait out heals by only half committing to a fight and then backing out. "heal early" isn't without counterplay.

On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.

And Athene's provides adequate CDR for that aswell. Yet Morellos was taken.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#2270
how many times are they gunna call bjergsen MVP? rofl.
liftlift > tsm
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
April 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#2271
On April 21 2014 09:04 kongoline wrote:
lol that had to be least early game pressure from eve i have ever seen


You just reminded me they have a eve lol.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
April 21 2014 00:06 GMT
#2272
On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.


It's really sick when you can build athenes/ionia boots or get ahg and blue buff and your ult on 11 is less than 90 seconds :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:07:45
April 21 2014 00:07 GMT
#2273
On April 21 2014 09:04 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2014 09:01 Gahlo wrote:
On April 21 2014 08:50 killerdog wrote:
Morellonomicon first tf o.0

On April 21 2014 08:56 Ketara wrote:
I don't understand Morellonomicon TF.

Can somebody explain that to me? I thought two drings was enough sustain for TF.

0 ignites.


It's not just that.

When TF got nerfed, his biggest nerfs were the E cooldown reduction removal and the R CD nerf. As a result, his R has a 3 minutes cooldown so he can't really do much.

With some CDR, however, he applies a LOT more pressure to the map, and increases his DPS/utility greatly since his Q/W already have low coolodown.

You maxed that last though, so it's not like it had any effect pre level 14-15, it's not like he was getting 15% cdr from level 6 from his e~

I'm not trying to say cdr is bad, obviously it's really good, but it's not like he had infinity cdr from his e before.
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:09:09
April 21 2014 00:07 GMT
#2274
That chained cc is so nice. GG TSM
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2014 00:08 GMT
#2275
TSM "They're pushing, let's have Graves go around so we can't clear the wave."
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 21 2014 00:08 GMT
#2276
Dyrus again lel
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-21 00:08:51
April 21 2014 00:08 GMT
#2277
You know what? Snoopeh's Eve against C9 wasn't as bad.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2278
gee gee. 3:0 da kbbq dream.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2279
Xpecial got stunned after his Flash out of leash range.

Riot pls.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
April 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#2280
Nice backing Dyrus.
The legend of Darien lives on
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