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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-02 17:13:48
February 02 2014 17:11 GMT
#781
I'm not sure if XGD is terrible because of the swap or because the other teams have just improved so much (I'm being real here) like lets pretend for a moment they could swap back without backlash/rust would they be better than 1 win? I'm not actually sure, Probably? but they look so weak I can't be sure.

who am I kidding? They picked Kha for Zuna when he hadn't even practiced it enough to know how to isolate the red buff.
Carrilord has arrived.
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
February 02 2014 17:21 GMT
#782
On February 03 2014 02:11 Slusher wrote:
I'm not sure if XGD is terrible because of the swap or because the other teams have just improved so much (I'm being real here) like lets pretend for a moment they could swap back without backlash/rust would they be better than 1 win? I'm not actually sure, Probably? but they look so weak I can't be sure.

who am I kidding? They picked Kha for Zuna when he hadn't even practiced it enough to know how to isolate the red buff.


I think a little bit of both. XDG lost their jungler to adc without having filled the role properly. Also, the fact that teams now have dedicated analysts is showing in LCS games. Teams have better objective control and no longer "throw" or "give away" games when ahead. I remember many times last season when many teams would just aimlessly siege near tower for minutes without results (looking at dignitas mostly), or other teams would just throw at baron. So far, there hasn't been much of that. C9 has also had a harder time eeking wins out this year than last, and I don't think they've gotten worse.
In addition, there's quite a bit more outplaying from individuals as the skills of the players have increased over last season.

Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 02 2014 18:25 GMT
#783
On February 03 2014 02:21 meowmasta85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 02:11 Slusher wrote:
I'm not sure if XGD is terrible because of the swap or because the other teams have just improved so much (I'm being real here) like lets pretend for a moment they could swap back without backlash/rust would they be better than 1 win? I'm not actually sure, Probably? but they look so weak I can't be sure.

who am I kidding? They picked Kha for Zuna when he hadn't even practiced it enough to know how to isolate the red buff.


I think a little bit of both. XDG lost their jungler to adc without having filled the role properly. Also, the fact that teams now have dedicated analysts is showing in LCS games. Teams have better objective control and no longer "throw" or "give away" games when ahead. I remember many times last season when many teams would just aimlessly siege near tower for minutes without results (looking at dignitas mostly), or other teams would just throw at baron. So far, there hasn't been much of that. C9 has also had a harder time eeking wins out this year than last, and I don't think they've gotten worse.
In addition, there's quite a bit more outplaying from individuals as the skills of the players have increased over last season.



Agreed. XDG has stated numerous times they have a big problem closing out and not throwing games. The solution many teams have had to this is to hire an analyst and set up a protocol for what to do in the lategame. XDG's solution was to put one of the best junglers in the NA LCS on adc. In any sport, the best teams put their players in a position where they can succeed. Xmithie had proven himself to be extremely capable as a jungler and removing him from that role just to improve lategame shotcalling really makes no sense to me. Regardless of what you think of Zuna, those 5 players made it to worlds with Xmithie on jungle and Zuna on adc. Hire a coach or analyst if you want lategame strategy to improve.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#784
They do have a coach in kenma but idk what he's doing unless he single handedly turned xmithie from the worst jungler in LCS to top two seeing as throwbargains never stopped.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 02 2014 18:44 GMT
#785
Thank God, CLG are playing in first 3 games twice.
3-0 dream #believe
Even TSM and C9 can have nuff time to complete their game before SuperBowl.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 02 2014 19:03 GMT
#786
on another note I'm glad to see someone that isn't Bengi play Nunu to his strengths for once, I really have a soft spot for that champion for some reason.

I'd have to watch the game again to be sure why they lost but with that early lead there had to have been greater mistakes than one meesly flank to throw that one away.
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 02 2014 19:10 GMT
#787
On February 03 2014 04:03 Slusher wrote:
on another note I'm glad to see someone that isn't Bengi play Nunu to his strengths for once, I really have a soft spot for that champion for some reason.

I'd have to watch the game again to be sure why they lost but with that early lead there had to have been greater mistakes than one meesly flank to throw that one away.

Bad teamfights and overextending.Also too late talisman on janna.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 02 2014 19:22 GMT
#788
Interesting games today. I love this shit.
Science>Mechanics
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 02 2014 19:59 GMT
#789
On February 03 2014 04:22 TitusVI wrote:
Interesting games today. I love this shit.

The most important thing today is even more chauster and everything is better with chauster.
Glorious SEA doto
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 02 2014 20:01 GMT
#790
Will we see a Teemo ban from TSM? :O
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 02 2014 20:01 GMT
#791
God, Rivington again for 4 games HAHAHAH.

At least, Riv and Kobe are lucky for CLG, seems like.

CLG CLG CLG
#CLGSeason4Believe
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 02 2014 20:02 GMT
#792
I've rewatched this play like a million times, so fucking sexy. BT+IE+LW+PD Vayne fucking does work, 3 shots voyboy.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 02 2014 20:04 GMT
#793
On February 03 2014 05:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
God, Rivington again for 4 games HAHAHAH.

At least, Riv and Kobe are lucky for CLG, seems like.

CLG CLG CLG
#CLGSeason4Believe


I think I actually heard (had it on 2nd monitor while playing soloQ) that Jatt had some troubles with traffic to be there in time for the challenger broadcast, which means that they cast it from a different location that LCS. So it would make sense that Phreak is there already to prepare for it, which means we only have 1 play by play caster at the lcs studio until pastry time has his visa sorted out
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
February 02 2014 20:08 GMT
#794
"Riv might let you touch his face"

Kobe pls.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 02 2014 20:09 GMT
#795
Now that jatt points it out cruzer is the only player on legion to be in LCS in the end. Not what I would have expected for such a hyped team before they disbanded.
Glorious SEA doto
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
February 02 2014 20:11 GMT
#796
Just watched the CRS vs CLG game from yesterday. I feel like a warwick pick over mundo would have been so much more useful. Another AS steroid along with a good pick / counter engage ult. Two long range execute ults with full vision as well.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 02 2014 20:12 GMT
#797
People need to learn how to speak...so many "ummm's"..."honestly"....."like" in these interviews
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
February 02 2014 20:13 GMT
#798
On February 03 2014 05:12 Yezzus wrote:
People need to learn how to speak...so many "ummm's"..."honestly"....."like" in these interviews


I have seen many videos with our president talking...... he's not doing so much better.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 02 2014 20:15 GMT
#799
On February 03 2014 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Now that jatt points it out cruzer is the only player on legion to be in LCS in the end. Not what I would have expected for such a hyped team before they disbanded.


Laute and Prolly though were playing in LCS and WT is playing right now even though we can't probably consider him as real part of Team Legion.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 02 2014 20:15 GMT
#800
On February 03 2014 05:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Now that jatt points it out cruzer is the only player on legion to be in LCS in the end. Not what I would have expected for such a hyped team before they disbanded.


Laute and Prolly though were playing in LCS and WT is playing right now even though we can't probably consider him as real part of Team Legion.

It's mainly demonlul never making it to LCS that surprised me.
Glorious SEA doto
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