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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 11:44:14
December 21 2013 11:42 GMT
#1581
Edit for clarity cause top page OP

On December 21 2013 20:41 Lylat wrote:
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On December 21 2013 19:27 JonGalt wrote:
On December 21 2013 08:43 Redox wrote:
Dat lantern block needed more hype.


...explain this.


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On December 21 2013 08:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 21 2013 08:43 Redox wrote:
Dat lantern block needed more hype.

I got your back
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GIFs don't work on my phone
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 11:45:28
December 21 2013 11:44 GMT
#1582
@JonGalt

Krepo/yellowpete vs RobertX/Buba

Annie/Lucian vs Sivir/Thresh

Krepo leads with with a stun (I can't actually remember why Robert didn't spellshield it). Buba throws out the lantern to save Robert but right as the 1.75 sec annie stuns runs out Krepo throws down the tibbers on top of the lantern and blocks it, forcing Sivir to flash away. Yolopete finishes with da Culling in equilibrium style. e: now that I see the gif again, Krepo actually got the kill. He deserved it :D

Later Pobelter on Ziggs steals Baron with Megainferno bomb which was perfectly timed with Krepo again using tibbers on top of Baron and Brokenshark smited it :D

Brokenshard also died to redbuff 1v1 ...
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 21 2013 11:44 GMT
#1583
He stopped Thresh from saving Sivir by putting a ward directly on top of the lantern, so that Sivir was unable to click the lantern and instead AA'd the ward (you can see that the ward took damage at that moment) He followed it up with a tibbers stun immediately and that gave enough time to kill Sivir. It's not an innovative technique, but he executed it very nicely and precise.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
December 21 2013 12:06 GMT
#1584
On December 21 2013 19:32 rewired wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 11:22 Tula wrote:
On December 21 2013 11:12 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 21 2013 10:41 GozoShioda wrote:
On December 21 2013 10:10 Dan HH wrote:
I don't see why you guys bring nationalism into it in the first place, I understand it for things like WCG or if there were any real national teams but given how international most teams are it's pretty dumb in regular tournaments. There are plenty of other storylines around.


Yea.

Why does it even matter if EU>NA or NA>EU? At the end of the day they are both trash to Korea or China. I just wish people admitted that the money is in streaming and marketing in these countries. There is like very minute competition lol. It's not about winning it's about entertaining and there is nothing wrong with that. What I feel is wrong is all these faggots trying to convince themselves that these teams actually deserve to be called pro gamers.

Quantic was beaten by NA amateurs.

Clearly this means KR<NA(...<EU)!

fk S3 worlds results, this here's the real deal.

On December 21 2013 10:49 LaNague wrote:
There are people cheering for regional teams all the time that are in like the 3rd league down and wont win anything.
Thats not being a "faggot", thats just being a fan of a team.

Yep. Why else are there still Dig fans around. It hurts.

Because if you are a true fan you follow your team until they disband :p

My football club (the one where I played when I was a kid) is basically shit and has been shit for at least 10 years, but I'll still loyally cheer for them when they are playing an important game.

Esports isn't quite there yet, but many people are already quite invested into "their" teams, personally I think that is a good thing. Now if only our so called teams focused on playing their best instead of maximising their revenue by streaming/doing sponsor stuff it would be easier to support them


Follow your team forever regardless of results. KT Rolster forever, even if they pretty meh at SC2 they solid in LoL


I followed Hotshot and Chauster originally tbh, and now they are both gone. Link is the only one I really like on CLG, and even he was awful. I still don't really consider it like real sports (In my case australian rules football) where I've followed the same team since I was born, despite them being garbage. CLG are also hilariously amateur in their roster changes and the way they talk themselves up (I like kelby but posting scrim scores only when you win, if you don't believe me look at the tweet history, they have only posted like twice ever that they've lost scrims, you'd think they are a clear number one from their scrim results).
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 21 2013 12:23 GMT
#1585
On December 21 2013 18:05 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 13:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 21 2013 13:34 schmutttt wrote:
So tempted to just follow EG now, sick of CLG talking themselves up then failing time after time. Also nien still being on the roster is a joke. I followed EG in SC2 anyway so shouldn't be too hard to transition.

I'll probably decide by the time S4 starts if I want to stick with CLG this season. Pretty irritating as a fan to hear all this talk about "potential", from fans and antifans.
The rate in which they learn from past mistakes is just abysmal. But I'll keep hoping for the time being.


Who are you considering? C9 seems like a solid choice, TSM probably is out of the question for you as a long time CLG fan.

I think if it wasn't for Monte I just wouldn't give too much of a damn about CLG anymore, but as long as he is their coach I think I'll stay somewhat attached, even if it's not my favourite team.

It's really up in the air. I tend to shy away from team as a whole/branding and results. I cheer for a team because of specific players, typically ones I either like or have personal associate with. CLG started with jiji and Chauster, both of whom have retired.

I don't mind TSM tbh (Bjergsen/Xpecial) nor do I feel like it's jumping ship, despite the appearance. XDG (mandatorycloud/Benny) is also up there. EG is a possibly frontrunner (Pobelter/Snoopeh/Krepo). We'll see how it goes.

@killerdog: TL LoL LR threads have actually been somewhat lacking on the actual LR part, like what SC has always done. Lunar and I used to do a bit of it here but we've been busy as of late. It's a LR thread, so actual LR is always appreciated.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 21 2013 12:27 GMT
#1586
On December 21 2013 20:44 AsnSensation wrote:
@JonGalt

Krepo/yellowpete vs RobertX/Buba

Annie/Lucian vs Sivir/Thresh

Krepo leads with with a stun (I can't actually remember why Robert didn't spellshield it). Buba throws out the lantern to save Robert but right as the 1.75 sec annie stuns runs out Krepo throws down the tibbers on top of the lantern and blocks it, forcing Sivir to flash away. Yolopete finishes with da Culling in equilibrium style. e: now that I see the gif again, Krepo actually got the kill. He deserved it :D

Later Pobelter on Ziggs steals Baron with Megainferno bomb which was perfectly timed with Krepo again using tibbers on top of Baron and Brokenshark smited it :D

Brokenshard also died to redbuff 1v1 ...

Krepo actually blocked the lantern first with a ward then threw Tibbers !
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
December 21 2013 12:29 GMT
#1587
@umberbane/asnsensation thanks! I've never heard of anyone doing that before, pretty neat!
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 12:44:06
December 21 2013 12:33 GMT
#1588
Is it just me or did bjergson hype die down hella fast when everyone realized he's not the second coming of faker? I think TSM are going to be the best team in NA this season, even though I do think bjergson is overrated. If EG are top 2 in NA there is no hope for NA to beat out EU whatsoever at Worlds.

Also, no one on CLG is intelligent enough to play at a World level except maybe Dexter. I highly doubt either aphromoo or doublelift time wards and are constantly aware of vision, and I HIGHLY doubt nien is capable of doing that considering he's barely trying to stay even top lane. This is why Dexter wasted so much fucking time after the first 5 minutes. It's also why CLG's problems keep occurring. They just get good mechanical players and then they don't train them whatsoever to play at the highest pro level. They have monte but I don't know how well he trains them since his specialty lies in preparation.

Bringing me back to my rant about terrible ass NA mids who think being a good mid player is all about having good synergy with their jungler (lol link/overratedcloud). I don't think link's retarded ass midgame plays and getting dumpstered in lane both games had anything to do with jungler synergy. Even then,wanna know why other mids are so good at snowballing? It's because they know exactly where the wards are and exactly where the other jungler could be. Dexter couldn't gank link's lane once, even though a matchup like syndra vs gragas should be campable if you really know what you're doing.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
December 21 2013 12:33 GMT
#1589
For people think it's stupid that EG are buying velocity spot, arent you guys questioning the level of na challenger? I dont want to start eu/na. But the "strongest na challenger team" got stomped by 3 of weakest mechanically eu player+ pobelter +innox who are in team for 1 3-4 weeks? And Quantic get out because a bad day .

I mean all eu challenger team looking so strong. Na scene wouldnt grow at all if u na best talent is westrice that played for 3-4 years didnt make for lcs and building TIAMAT on RENEK ???
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
December 21 2013 12:42 GMT
#1590
On December 21 2013 21:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Is it just me or did bjergson hype die down hella fast when everyone realized he's not the second coming of faker? I think TSM are going to be the best team in NA this season, even though I do think bjergson is overrated. If EG are top 2 in NA there is no hope for NA to beat out EU whatsoever at Worlds.

Also, no one on CLG is intelligent enough to play at a World level except maybe Dexter. I highly doubt either aphromoo or doublelift time wards and are constantly aware of vision, and I HIGHLY doubt nien is capable of doing that considering he's barely trying to stay even top lane. This is why Dexter wasted so much fucking time after the first 5 minutes. It's also why CLG's problems keep occurring. They just get good mechanical players and then they don't train them whatsoever to play at the highest pro level. They have monte but I don't know how well he trains them since his specialty lies in preparation.


Edward a worldclass support come to curse and they got relegated. One player isnt going to change whole team if ur team is shit. Same will probaly happend with bjergsen/dexter they are struggling beating LD LOL.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 12:45:52
December 21 2013 12:44 GMT
#1591
On December 21 2013 21:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Is it just me or did bjergson hype die down hella fast when everyone realized he's not the second coming of faker? I think TSM are going to be the best team in NA this season, even though I do think bjergson is overrated. If EG are top 2 in NA there is no hope for NA to beat out EU whatsoever at Worlds.

Also, no one on CLG is intelligent enough to play at a World level except maybe Dexter. I highly doubt either aphromoo or doublelift time wards and are constantly aware of vision, and I HIGHLY doubt nien is capable of doing that considering he's barely trying to stay even top lane. This is why Dexter wasted so much fucking time after the first 5 minutes.

I think the hype is still there just at a realistic level. Mechanically, Bjergsen is a definitely upgrade over Regi and it remains to be seen if the team suffers from the departure of Regi and his shotcalling (which people have pretty much said is the best in NA).

EU's pride has been their Mid Lane since early Season 2. It's obv early but I see either Bjergsen on par with the likes of mandatorycloud (which would be an underperformance to say the least) or he crushes NA Mids (what I hope for) and he can help level up the NA Mid Lanes in the process.

I want to give CLG the benefit of the doubt that they do shit like time wards and I would be incredibly disappointed if they don't. That said, decision making is obviously CLG greatest fault. Doublelift is probably my favorite player on the team now but I can't understand for the life of me why he thinks like a Silver sometimes. He admits it, his fans can see it but yeah... where's the improvement?

On December 21 2013 21:33 skykh wrote:
For people think it's stupid that EG are buying velocity spot, arent you guys questioning the level of na challenger? I dont want to start eu/na. But the "strongest na challenger team" got stomped by 3 of weakest mechanically eu player+ pobelter +innox who are in team for 1 3-4 weeks? And Quantic get out because a bad day .

I mean all eu challenger team looking so strong. Na scene wouldnt grow at all if u na best talent is westrice that played for 3-4 years didnt make for lcs and building TIAMAT on RENEK ???

Not sure what you're expecting here. NA is by far the weakest region. Our challengers aren't that great either. But I don't think it matters. Good LoL teams have always been the ones where they become greater than the sum of their parts. You can have a team that's talented individually, be 5 Challenger Tier strong, and end up pulling a NiP. np
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 21 2013 12:46 GMT
#1592
I think cloudtemplar said it best when he was casting the games. When CLG loses a teamfight with a teamfight comp they get scared and default onto playing a style that they know like splitpushing with doublelift instead of thinking "hey, we lost a teamfight, we need to focus and just win the next teamfight".
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 21 2013 12:49 GMT
#1593
Can't argue with CT. :>

But really, split pushing with Trist who isn't level 18 and full items? What do you think is going to happen?
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 21 2013 12:52 GMT
#1594
Seeing Doublelift stubbornly push botlane while Atn rushes down mid was hilarious. The cherry on top was the 4v5 engage.

Really hoping we get close and interesting games tonight.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
December 21 2013 13:11 GMT
#1595
Doublelift has made the same mistakes since season 2. I'd honestly drop him but that will never happen
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
December 21 2013 13:39 GMT
#1596
On December 21 2013 22:11 schmutttt wrote:
Doublelift has made the same mistakes since season 2. I'd honestly drop him but that will never happen

but but but the one time he succeeded on stage with an unimportant match on WC he was a youtube sensation....


Lets hope the montecristo direct inhouse approach early jan will be a mental boost for CLG.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 21 2013 14:05 GMT
#1597
On December 21 2013 13:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 13:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
On December 21 2013 13:34 schmutttt wrote:
So tempted to just follow EG now, sick of CLG talking themselves up then failing time after time. Also nien still being on the roster is a joke. I followed EG in SC2 anyway so shouldn't be too hard to transition.

I'll probably decide by the time S4 starts if I want to stick with CLG this season. Pretty irritating as a fan to hear all this talk about "potential", from fans and antifans.
The rate in which they learn from past mistakes is just abysmal. But I'll keep hoping for the time being.

If/when you switch, I'll probably switch from being a Dig fan.

I've followed them since RS days, but dang-nabit the paaaaain.

Weeeeeeeeeell...

So now I only follow TSM because TOO. I'd like XD.GG more if they didn't have the Zuna throws and such dumb names, too.
EU it's Alternate and Gambit (although Alternate had a bunch of hype over FLord and that's what drew me, their botlane's doing work too and they had a very aggressive and decisive style early in the summer split that I really like, crisp execution).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 14:32:30
December 21 2013 14:26 GMT
#1598
With exception of najin sword I'm not really a fan of teams, more a fan of players. It just happens with XDG that 4/5 of their players happen to be ones that I like. Dignitas are kinda like that, most dig fans are scarra/qtpie fans not fans of the team itself.
I really don't think CLG has an individual issue (Except for possibly nien) but their shot calling doesn't seem to be improving with dexter, they still fall back to stubborn split pushes at awful times and feel out of position for objectives.
Glorious SEA doto
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14462 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 15:59:20
December 21 2013 15:58 GMT
#1599
I know that I'm a bit off topic but if you want to follow the opening of the Meltdown 2.0 watch the french stream, french casters are going to cast it from the Meltdown with the crowd.

Here : fr OGamingTV
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9243 Posts
December 21 2013 16:31 GMT
#1600
I know BotA are just glorified showmatches but isn't the scoring pretty awful considering that half the prize pool depends on it? It makes Gambit vs XDG irrelevant, no matter who takes that match the winner of C9 vs Fnatic will decide the winning region.
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