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las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
December 22 2013 22:32 GMT
#3581
On December 23 2013 07:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:22 FuRRie wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:18 UmberBane wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:14 las91 wrote:
Rivington easily joining my list of casters that I wish would stop casting. That Jason guy in EU, Khaldor for SC2, and Riv are three of the most uninformed and downright wrong casters I've seen lately. It's like he's not even watching the game half the time for god's sake.

Khaldor? I think he's fine, although I can't listen to his accent, probably because your "own" accent always sounds the worst to yourself. I've kinda jumped on the fed up with Tasteless bandwagon lately, lol, which I'm pretty late to.

Xpeke looks sad...


I agree Tasteless isn't as good as he used to be.

Cut him some slack though, his been casting since forever :p.

Anyway, i'm clearly a terrible LoL player cause i'm okay with these casters :p.
I have no meta-game knowledge and don't even know all the item names :D.

Normally Rivington is fine, honestly. People on TL hate on him because they just want color commentary instead of any play-by-play (which is better for those who aren't able to follow the at-times hectic spectating yet).

However, his sentences this tourney have been...pretty nonsensical and confusing at times.


People love Deman, even though he's play-by-play.

What I don't like from Riv is that he hasn't been given a proper partner to do color commentary so he dips his feet in it with Phreak co-casting. Which doesn't work.


Riv/Kobe worked. Deman is an excellent caster and probably my favorite one in the EU scene.
In Inca we trust
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 22 2013 22:33 GMT
#3582
I still think Riv is better than Quickshot, but that's because Quickshot's voice grates my ears into pulp. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I can't stand his accent.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
December 22 2013 22:34 GMT
#3583
Glad to see CoG staying with their unorthodox picks. One of their strengths, generally (though they get it horribly wrong, sometimes)
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:35:51
December 22 2013 22:34 GMT
#3584
On December 23 2013 07:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:22 FuRRie wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:18 UmberBane wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:14 las91 wrote:
Rivington easily joining my list of casters that I wish would stop casting. That Jason guy in EU, Khaldor for SC2, and Riv are three of the most uninformed and downright wrong casters I've seen lately. It's like he's not even watching the game half the time for god's sake.

Khaldor? I think he's fine, although I can't listen to his accent, probably because your "own" accent always sounds the worst to yourself. I've kinda jumped on the fed up with Tasteless bandwagon lately, lol, which I'm pretty late to.

Xpeke looks sad...


I agree Tasteless isn't as good as he used to be.

Cut him some slack though, his been casting since forever :p.

Anyway, i'm clearly a terrible LoL player cause i'm okay with these casters :p.
I have no meta-game knowledge and don't even know all the item names :D.

Normally Rivington is fine, honestly. People on TL hate on him because they just want color commentary instead of any play-by-play (which is better for those who aren't able to follow the at-times hectic spectating yet).

However, his sentences this tourney have been...pretty nonsensical and confusing at times.


People love Deman, even though he's play-by-play.

What I don't like from Riv is that he hasn't been given a proper partner to do color commentary so he dips his feet in it with Phreak co-casting. Which doesn't work.


Giving the production the benefit of the doubt here because Kobe just casted and Jatt apparently hurt his voice yesterday and doesn't seem to be able to cast tonight.

To the play-by-play thing: EU play-by-play casters seem to be quite popular, if you take Joe Miller and Deman as examples.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:37:00
December 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#3585
On December 23 2013 07:30 FuRRie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:22 FuRRie wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:18 UmberBane wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:14 las91 wrote:
Rivington easily joining my list of casters that I wish would stop casting. That Jason guy in EU, Khaldor for SC2, and Riv are three of the most uninformed and downright wrong casters I've seen lately. It's like he's not even watching the game half the time for god's sake.

Khaldor? I think he's fine, although I can't listen to his accent, probably because your "own" accent always sounds the worst to yourself. I've kinda jumped on the fed up with Tasteless bandwagon lately, lol, which I'm pretty late to.

Xpeke looks sad...


I agree Tasteless isn't as good as he used to be.

Cut him some slack though, his been casting since forever :p.

Anyway, i'm clearly a terrible LoL player cause i'm okay with these casters :p.
I have no meta-game knowledge and don't even know all the item names :D.

Normally Rivington is fine, honestly. People on TL hate on him because they just want color commentary instead of any play-by-play (which is better for those who aren't able to follow the at-times hectic spectating yet).

However, his sentences this tourney have been...pretty nonsensical and confusing at times.


Cheers for the clearing up .

I'll take the comments about his casting with a grain of salt then :D

He's not bad, but there are better LoL play-by-play casters, or "hybrids" who do both play-by-play and color. Deman for the former, for instance.

On December 23 2013 07:31 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:22 FuRRie wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:18 UmberBane wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:14 las91 wrote:
Rivington easily joining my list of casters that I wish would stop casting. That Jason guy in EU, Khaldor for SC2, and Riv are three of the most uninformed and downright wrong casters I've seen lately. It's like he's not even watching the game half the time for god's sake.

Khaldor? I think he's fine, although I can't listen to his accent, probably because your "own" accent always sounds the worst to yourself. I've kinda jumped on the fed up with Tasteless bandwagon lately, lol, which I'm pretty late to.

Xpeke looks sad...


I agree Tasteless isn't as good as he used to be.

Cut him some slack though, his been casting since forever :p.

Anyway, i'm clearly a terrible LoL player cause i'm okay with these casters :p.
I have no meta-game knowledge and don't even know all the item names :D.

Normally Rivington is fine, honestly. People on TL hate on him because they just want color commentary instead of any play-by-play (which is better for those who aren't able to follow the at-times hectic spectating yet).

However, his sentences this tourney have been...pretty nonsensical and confusing at times.


People love Deman, even though he's play-by-play.

What I don't like from Riv is that he hasn't been given a proper partner to do color commentary so he dips his feet in it with Phreak co-casting. Which doesn't work.

Yep yep. Every time Riv dips into analysis, kittens die. Should always be paired up with Jatt/Kobe or any of the Diamond league casters.

Phreak is diamond and can do fairly good analysis at times, but he's not really dedicated, and his role is to make jokes and funnies in addition to some play-by-play and analysis. Riv's is to do fairly good play-by-play and sound exciting, so the analysis/color of Preakington is lacking.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#3586
On December 23 2013 07:28 killerdog wrote:
CRS vs COG Game 2

Bans (COG): Nasus, Ziggs, Kassadin
Bans (CRS): Riven, Olaf, KogøMaw

Picks (COG): Sivir, Elise, Leona, Lucian, Vi
Picks (CRS): Dr. Mundo, Shyvana, Thresh, Draven, Vladimir


Elise vs Shyvana in lane,
Vi vs Mundo jungle
Sivir mid
1:00 Both teams spreading defensively to watch jungle entrances, Curse is lane swapping, with duo top and shy bottom, while COG sends their duo bot.
2:00 elise forced to base by the duo of curse
3:00 both junglers started bot buff, vi went to hold tower top with elise vs Curse's duo while mundo based after golems.
4:00 both junglers just farming while Shyvana and Elise keep the waves off their towers, very little tower daamge for either side.
4:50 vi tries for a gank top, but Crs's duo backs off. Vi is sitting top with elise, but mundo is just farming
5:30 mundo ganks middle, him and vlad get sivir low and force her summoners, but vi arrives from top in time to force them off.
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
December 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#3587
I don't like the Vlad pick.... I wish they had more teamfight control with like an Orianna mid... You don't need 2 splitpushers like Vlad and Shyv...
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
December 22 2013 22:37 GMT
#3588
i like cog's team against the all-bruiser curse lineup.
you get a lot of time to deal damage with your adcs
sweet
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 22 2013 22:37 GMT
#3589
On December 23 2013 07:36 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:28 killerdog wrote:
CRS vs COG Game 2

Bans (COG): Nasus, Ziggs, Kassadin
Bans (CRS): Riven, Olaf, KogøMaw

Picks (COG): Sivir, Elise, Leona, Lucian, Vi
Picks (CRS): Dr. Mundo, Shyvana, Thresh, Draven, Vladimir


Elise vs Shyvana in lane,
Vi vs Mundo jungle
Sivir mid
1:00 Both teams spreading defensively to watch jungle entrances, Curse is lane swapping, with duo top and shy bottom, while COG sends their duo bot.
2:00 elise forced to base by the duo of curse
3:00 both junglers started bot buff, vi went to hold tower top with elise vs Curse's duo while mundo based after golems.
4:00 both junglers just farming while Shyvana and Elise keep the waves off their towers, very little tower daamge for either side.
4:50 vi tries for a gank top, but Crs's duo backs off. Vi is sitting top with elise, but mundo is just farming
5:30 mundo ganks middle, him and vlad get sivir low and force her summoners, but vi arrives from top in time to force them off.


6:00 Mundo going bot to help shyvana hold tower, Curse's bot tower is around half health.
7:00 Vi going to help hold top, but Curse's duo just base before running back to top. Gold is relatively even (8.8k vs 9.1k)

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 22 2013 22:38 GMT
#3590
On December 23 2013 07:37 Affenaffe wrote:
i like cog's team against the all-bruiser curse lineup.
you get a lot of time to deal damage with your adcs
sweet


Cris can just dive through the entire lineup of Curse and just focus Cop.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 22 2013 22:39 GMT
#3591
Cog's duo lane seem to be really bad at 2v1.Second game quas is free farming.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
December 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#3592
Not sure if I can imagine an LCS, or any toplevel LoL competition, without Curse.
(slightly fun that Coast and Curse both picked teams who look better than DTG in this relegation)
washed
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#3593
Quas pls
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#3594
Man Quas is okay.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#3595
On December 23 2013 07:37 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:36 killerdog wrote:
On December 23 2013 07:28 killerdog wrote:
CRS vs COG Game 2

Bans (COG): Nasus, Ziggs, Kassadin
Bans (CRS): Riven, Olaf, KogøMaw

Picks (COG): Sivir, Elise, Leona, Lucian, Vi
Picks (CRS): Dr. Mundo, Shyvana, Thresh, Draven, Vladimir


Elise vs Shyvana in lane,
Vi vs Mundo jungle
Sivir mid
1:00 Both teams spreading defensively to watch jungle entrances, Curse is lane swapping, with duo top and shy bottom, while COG sends their duo bot.
2:00 elise forced to base by the duo of curse
3:00 both junglers started bot buff, vi went to hold tower top with elise vs Curse's duo while mundo based after golems.
4:00 both junglers just farming while Shyvana and Elise keep the waves off their towers, very little tower daamge for either side.
4:50 vi tries for a gank top, but Crs's duo backs off. Vi is sitting top with elise, but mundo is just farming
5:30 mundo ganks middle, him and vlad get sivir low and force her summoners, but vi arrives from top in time to force them off.


6:00 Mundo going bot to help shyvana hold tower, Curse's bot tower is around half health.
7:00 Vi going to help hold top, but Curse's duo just base before running back to top. Gold is relatively even (8.8k vs 9.1k)


8:00 both junglers still farming, Curse's duo is pushing top a harder now due to having bought (draven has a bf) while COG's duo only just backed to buy. Both towers being shoved are at ~30% hp
9:00 Vi passes blue off to sivir, before going back to help hold top. Curse manages to kill it at 9:30 anyway though
9:40 mundo ganks bottom, him and shyvana almost catch lucian but he flashes in time.
10:00 only major cs difference betweent he teams is the top laners, where shyv has 75 cs vs elises 45.
10:20 Shyvana manages to kill lucian, COG tries to counter with a big gank middle on vlad, engaging him between the t1 and t2, but he pools away.
11:00 curse take first dragon. Curse ahead on gold 15.8k to 13.2k
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
December 22 2013 22:41 GMT
#3596
Holy shit who would go back in in that situation? Quas pretty good
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 22 2013 22:42 GMT
#3597
fuck wtb GG.LA reborn. Quas pls.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#3598
Cris hits a minion with a cocoon, Cop still burns all his summoners lolol.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 22 2013 22:43 GMT
#3599
On December 23 2013 07:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cris hits a minion with a cocoon, Cop still burns all his summoners lolol.

4th best ADC in NA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 22:46:03
December 22 2013 22:45 GMT
#3600
On December 23 2013 07:43 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 07:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Cris hits a minion with a cocoon, Cop still burns all his summoners lolol.

4th best ADC in NA.

*NA LCS. Otherwise we'd have to count like Demunlul, Roberto, Aphro, and others.

With Wizzfujin in NA LCS though, downgrade it to 5th. Still not impressed by yellowpete, but maybe he'd contest with Cop.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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