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killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#3101
On December 23 2013 05:06 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:05 orzeu wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
I still think C9 is the only team that can stand up against Fnatic and Gambit. EU still has more, better teams.

Fnatic in current patch is not even top 3 EU. All Soaz/Cyanide mains got nerfed.

Soaz has mains ? lol

He mains top lane :p
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#3102
On December 23 2013 05:06 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:05 orzeu wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
I still think C9 is the only team that can stand up against Fnatic and Gambit. EU still has more, better teams.

Fnatic in current patch is not even top 3 EU. All Soaz/Cyanide mains got nerfed.

Soaz has mains ? lol


Well somewhat true, any non bruiser got nerved top if you compare it to the boring stuff.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#3103
Blue side was 6-1 yesterday
Carrilord has arrived.
cuppatea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1401 Posts
December 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#3104
On December 23 2013 04:57 LaM wrote:
Seems simple to me that the best NA teams are just as good, maybe better, than the best EU teams (I would pick C9 or TSM over any Euro team right now in a Bo3). The mid-tier Euro teams are better than the mid-tier NA teams tho.


C9 went 25-3 against NA teams last season and then 1-4 against EU. TSM have never beaten M5/Gambit in multiple attempts and have a 0-17 record against Korean teams. There's literally nothing to back up what you're saying. All the evidence so far suggests C9 are miles ahead of the rest NA (including TSM) and slightly behind the very best EU teams (who themselves are only slightly ahead of the pack in Europe).
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
December 22 2013 20:07 GMT
#3105
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
December 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#3106
Even in today's globalized world the cultural differences between Europe and USA seem bigger than I thought, reading this thread at least
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
December 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#3107
On December 23 2013 05:05 orzeu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
I still think C9 is the only team that can stand up against Fnatic and Gambit. EU still has more, better teams.

Fnatic in current patch is not even top 3 EU. All Soaz/Cyanide mains got nerfed.

they also beat c9 before only when xpeke got kass i find fnatic gimicky and overall worse than gambit
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
December 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#3108
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid


Here come the excuses
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
December 22 2013 20:08 GMT
#3109
On December 23 2013 05:06 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:05 orzeu wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
I still think C9 is the only team that can stand up against Fnatic and Gambit. EU still has more, better teams.

Fnatic in current patch is not even top 3 EU. All Soaz/Cyanide mains got nerfed.

Soaz has mains ? lol

Elise, kennen, zed and all aps. He never was bruiser player.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#3110
First it's "USA USA USA," then it's Manifest Destiny, American imperialism, and nuclear stockpiling. These foolish League fans are falling down the slippery slope . . .
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
December 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#3111
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid


Fnatic are just operating so many levels above C9 that they let them win once to get the crowd amped up. Now they'll destroy them two games in a row to drive how how worthless na is as a region, and how amazing europe is at everything.

/nationalism off
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#3112
didn't see game 1, but USA! USA! USA!
liftlift > tsm
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
December 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#3113
On December 23 2013 05:08 HorsemasterK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid


Here come the excuses


How do you explain a Renekton mid?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
December 22 2013 20:09 GMT
#3114
On December 23 2013 05:03 cuppatea wrote:
People are getting WAY too carried away with that result. C9 got stomped in every lane, they lost a fight 3v2 top and then gave away first blood. The entire game snowballed INCREDIBLY hard off Kassadin roaming top and picking up a double kill. Maybe they will surprise me in the next game but I didn't see anything there to suggest C9 will beat Fnatic without a Kassadin vs Renekton matchup in the mid lane.

I thought that was the same fight. Also, don't see how 20cs is "smashed" in lane.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#3115
The smell of Freedom is so fucking think in this thread
Carrilord has arrived.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
December 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#3116
Relevant?

Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
December 22 2013 20:10 GMT
#3117
On December 23 2013 05:09 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:08 HorsemasterK wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid


Here come the excuses


How do you explain a Renekton mid?


Fnatic thought they had a cute counter pick. They failed.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 20:11:43
December 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#3118
On December 23 2013 05:10 HorsemasterK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 05:09 ManBaker wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:08 HorsemasterK wrote:
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid


Here come the excuses


How do you explain a Renekton mid?


Fnatic thought they had a cute counter pick. They failed.


Where were you the last couple of day's ?
Uch nevermind funny troll master 101.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#3119
On December 23 2013 05:07 Lylat wrote:
Pls, I don't care about results I just want a serious game where Fnatic tries to win instead of doing random shit like Renekton mid

And I wanted a Game 3 at Worlds for C9 v. Fnatic where an early doublekill level 1 doesn't cockblock what could've been a hype game.

Deal with it. (kappa)

User was warned for this post
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 22 2013 20:11 GMT
#3120
On December 23 2013 05:07 onlywonderboy wrote:
Nationalism is just part of USA culture. At least C9 is actually all United States players. It was funny when there were USA chants for TSM when Turtle and OddOne are Canadian lol.

Nationalism is a part of every culture. Some just a bit more loud than others. Jesus, don't get me started on swedes..
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