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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 13:17:24
January 25 2014 13:16 GMT
#3841
On January 25 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
If sword was better than ozone they would have won against ozone
10/10 logic


Anyway, were they games good or too much of a stomp?

Game one: Faker #thingsfakerdoes on dade, ozone fight back with dragon. Then imp and mata spend 20 minutes doing as many things wrong as humanly possible.
Game two: Ozone try to blind side SKT with the yasuo/zac combo but 50 missed cocoons, a shyvana that dumpstered zac and finished 11/0/8 and a surprise karthus later and ozone folded.
Game three: Mostly a repeat of G1, except SKT get aced stupidly in ozone's base and imp/mata didn't kill themselves over and over.
Overall, terrible finals. If nothing else worth watching to see SKT assert themselves as the best, in particular mandu who showed a cow that madlife would be proud of.
Glorious SEA doto
baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
January 25 2014 14:58 GMT
#3842
On January 25 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
If sword was better than ozone they would have won against ozone
10/10 logic


Anyway, were they games good or too much of a stomp?


They didn't win against Ozone because they didn't play against Ozone this season. The only thing we can do is speculate as to which team is stronger based on their performance. Ozone looked sloppy against Shield and were straight-up embarrassed by SKT today, so I'm not convinced that they are stronger than teams like Blue or Sword right now.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 25 2014 16:28 GMT
#3843
Didn't watch games, but from what it seems is that SKT dumpestered ozone?
liftlift > tsm
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 25 2014 16:55 GMT
#3844
Boy, am I glad I didn't stay up for this lol
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 25 2014 16:59 GMT
#3845
Why are Twitch vods so god damn slow zzz
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 25 2014 17:07 GMT
#3846
On January 25 2014 20:13 nbsjvt wrote:
The drafting of SKT is really good in my opinion. It is very hard to find patterns on how they draft their composition. And they somehow turn a very small gold lead into an eventual victory.

tbh, drafting is super fucking easy, when your midlaner is the target of a fuckton of bans, but has a champion pool the size of the grand canyon.
liftlift > tsm
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 25 2014 17:10 GMT
#3847
On January 26 2014 01:59 Nos- wrote:
Why are Twitch vods so god damn slow zzz


I've been sad the whole day because of this
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 25 2014 17:14 GMT
#3848
On January 25 2014 20:54 AsnSensation wrote:
for the people that missed the beginning, faker standing up is too epic.


RIP Homme

overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 25 2014 17:14 GMT
#3849
Yasuo 0% win rate in Korea. Riot pls buff.

I really hope KT Bullets can get their shit together and beat SKT next champions. They've won enough.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 25 2014 17:18 GMT
#3850
Apparently Faker used Bunny Riven skin by accident lol because some staff member was checking accounts pregame and selected bunny riven and Faker never checks it because he always has default.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
January 25 2014 17:20 GMT
#3851
On January 26 2014 02:18 AsnSensation wrote:
Apparently Faker used Bunny Riven skin by accident lol because some staff member was checking accounts pregame and selected bunny riven and Faker never checks it because he always has default.

Could just be a prank on to Faker by the staff member :O
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 17:29:46
January 25 2014 17:29 GMT
#3852
Eeeh, apparently there isn't a rerun this time around, did they mention anything about that during the live?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 25 2014 17:37 GMT
#3853
On January 25 2014 23:58 baekgom84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
If sword was better than ozone they would have won against ozone
10/10 logic


Anyway, were they games good or too much of a stomp?


They didn't win against Ozone because they didn't play against Ozone this season. The only thing we can do is speculate as to which team is stronger based on their performance. Ozone looked sloppy against Shield and were straight-up embarrassed by SKT today, so I'm not convinced that they are stronger than teams like Blue or Sword right now.

Yeah I misremembered the semifinals as najin sword instead of najin shield lol


now i understand why rito doesnt want sister teams, 2confusing4me
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#3854
On January 25 2014 22:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
If sword was better than ozone they would have won against ozone
10/10 logic


Anyway, were they games good or too much of a stomp?

Game one: Faker #thingsfakerdoes on dade, ozone fight back with dragon. Then imp and mata spend 20 minutes doing as many things wrong as humanly possible.
Game two: Ozone try to blind side SKT with the yasuo/zac combo but 50 missed cocoons, a shyvana that dumpstered zac and finished 11/0/8 and a surprise karthus later and ozone folded.
Game three: Mostly a repeat of G1, except SKT get aced stupidly in ozone's base and imp/mata didn't kill themselves over and over.
Overall, terrible finals. If nothing else worth watching to see SKT assert themselves as the best, in particular mandu who showed a cow that madlife would be proud of.


Game three was more like: Even game with solid play from both sides, then Ozone suicides into some terrible engagements.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 17:59:34
January 25 2014 17:59 GMT
#3855
Undefeated... god, this is so mind boggling. Has anyone done this in SC;BW before? I don't think so?

The SKTT1 legend continues.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JustPwnedU
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada11 Posts
January 25 2014 18:15 GMT
#3856
On January 26 2014 02:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Undefeated... god, this is so mind boggling. Has anyone done this in SC;BW before? I don't think so?

The SKTT1 legend continues.


Its kind of different though because you have to play so many sets of games it would be nearly impossible to not drop at least one game but many have never dropped a set in a tournament.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 18:23 GMT
#3857
On January 26 2014 02:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 02:18 AsnSensation wrote:
Apparently Faker used Bunny Riven skin by accident lol because some staff member was checking accounts pregame and selected bunny riven and Faker never checks it because he always has default.

Could just be a prank on to Faker by the staff member :O


makes sense, I noticed he deselected it for game 3
Carrilord has arrived.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 25 2014 18:26 GMT
#3858
On January 26 2014 02:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Undefeated... god, this is so mind boggling. Has anyone done this in SC;BW before? I don't think so?

The SKTT1 legend continues.


Nestea did it in GSL.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 25 2014 18:30 GMT
#3859
as far as "is Ozone even top 5?" this tournament really sucked for group drawing. Not trying to give OGN a hard time but honestly if you broke groups A and B up into 4 divisions and mixed in the C and D teams, I'm only team I'm not sure would make the bracket stage over C and D teams is SKT S, if only because they are unproven (and they were the only A/B team to lose to a non A/B team in NLB)
Carrilord has arrived.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 18:47:20
January 25 2014 18:46 GMT
#3860
On January 26 2014 03:15 JustPwnedU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 02:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Undefeated... god, this is so mind boggling. Has anyone done this in SC;BW before? I don't think so?

The SKTT1 legend continues.


Its kind of different though because you have to play so many sets of games it would be nearly impossible to not drop at least one game but many have never dropped a set in a tournament.

Not really. It's actually fewer games. In an OSL, a perfect run is 12-0. In Champions, a perfect run is 15-0. Fantasy came close (sort of). He was 9-0 in the tving OSL leading up to the finals, but then he got smashed by Jangbi 3-1 :s

nvm I might have misunderstood what you were saying.
Writer:o
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