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Two things as public notice:
1. + Show Spoiler [Quarterfinals 1 spoiler] +
Congrats to Fnatic, they played superbly and glgl to them in the Semis!
No one is saying that Fnatic only won because of the level 1 in Game 3. Please keep the nationalistic statements out of our subforum.


2. Riot's Worlds format is atrocious. Let's not beat a dead horse here. I will certainly be talking to Riot's eSports dept about it in the near future.

I simply ask everyone to be civil. Humble in victory, graceful in defeat.
Enjoy the games~

-Neo, Sept 23rd, 3:20 PM PDT, page 120
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5021
THE BURNNNN
liftlift > tsm
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9206 Posts
September 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5022
On September 25 2013 13:09 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:08 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:00 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:51 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:47 MattBarry wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:44 Caphe wrote:
[quote]
Well, no. Taiwan got its own region qualifier with GAB is the winner. While SEA got a seperated region qualifier with Mineski...and well SEA sucks so much more than NA.
Taiwan is Taiwan not SEA.

sure but Taiwan still worse than NA. old TPA was a huge exception to the power strength of Taiwan/SEA/HK.

Gama Bears doesn't look any better or worse than not-C9

...serious? You people hate on NA too hard. Go rewatch TSM v. SKT game 1 and say that they're doing worse or on par with Gama Bears.

How can you compare that. It's like sayin that Vulcun is better than C9 cause their win vs Fnatic was more convicing.

Lol strawman much? nothing I said even implies that.

You compared Bears game 2 & TSM's game 1 vs SKT as an argument that TSM is better than Bears. I was pointing out how absurd the transitive argument is, since you can compare Vulcun's G1 vs Fnatic with one of C9's games vs Fnatic by the same rules. I'm not convinced you know what a strawman argument is if you think that's one.

when did I compare Bears game 2?

Okay, Bears overall performance against SKT then. You still compared it with one specific game of TSM vs SKT, as an argument that TSM is better.

I'm not even saying TSM isn't better, just that it's a leap to compare 2 teams based on how they did against one single opponent. Imo Gama Bears' style matches up horribly against SKT's and I believe they would do quite well against many other teams at this tournament.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything. I'm just genuinely curious - how much of GPL/Taiwanese games have you watched?

GPL is crap because it had no qualifiers since its inception, ahq was the only good team in it last season. I watched the TW regional, the HK Esports tourney and some of TeSL. Bears, TPS & ahq are all decent teams and I'm not hating on NA or anything but I don't think TSM, Vulcun or Curse are one tier above them.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5023
Oh god the shots.
Fan of the Jangbanger
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 25 2013 04:15 GMT
#5024
Uzi pls carry, but Wh1t3zZ feel free to steal some kills.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5025
Really interested in seeing how OMG plays this vs Royal. I doubt they'll throw this time... ;D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5026
If we don't get a 100kill game, I'll be disappoint.
liftlift > tsm
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5027
Raising the puppy
@miicah88
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 25 2013 04:16 GMT
#5028
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5029
DL studying another ADC?
ALL IN ON UZI.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5030
On September 25 2013 13:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????

Seems like flawless logic to me.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
September 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5031
--- Nuked ---
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5032
On September 25 2013 13:15 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:09 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:08 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:02 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:00 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:52 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:51 Dan HH wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:47 MattBarry wrote:
On September 25 2013 12:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
[quote]
sure but Taiwan still worse than NA. old TPA was a huge exception to the power strength of Taiwan/SEA/HK.

Gama Bears doesn't look any better or worse than not-C9

...serious? You people hate on NA too hard. Go rewatch TSM v. SKT game 1 and say that they're doing worse or on par with Gama Bears.

How can you compare that. It's like sayin that Vulcun is better than C9 cause their win vs Fnatic was more convicing.

Lol strawman much? nothing I said even implies that.

You compared Bears game 2 & TSM's game 1 vs SKT as an argument that TSM is better than Bears. I was pointing out how absurd the transitive argument is, since you can compare Vulcun's G1 vs Fnatic with one of C9's games vs Fnatic by the same rules. I'm not convinced you know what a strawman argument is if you think that's one.

when did I compare Bears game 2?

Okay, Bears overall performance against SKT then. You still compared it with one specific game of TSM vs SKT, as an argument that TSM is better.

I'm not even saying TSM isn't better, just that it's a leap to compare 2 teams based on how they did against one single opponent. Imo Gama Bears' style matches up horribly against SKT's and I believe they would do quite well against many other teams at this tournament.

I'm not trying to attack you or anything. I'm just genuinely curious - how much of GPL/Taiwanese games have you watched?

GPL is crap because it had no qualifiers since its inception, ahq was the only good team in it last season. I watched the TW regional, the HK Esports tourney and some of TeSL. Bears, TPS & ahq are all decent teams and I'm not hating on NA or anything but I don't think TSM, Vulcun or Curse are one tier above them.

fair enough. I did conveniently forget about Curse, CLG, Dig in my assertion of NA>Taiwan/SEA/HK.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#5033
On September 25 2013 13:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????


why you bring this back, moomoo?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5034
On September 25 2013 13:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????

SKT T1 is probably a slightly better team than 4 random NA soloqers
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5035
Did anyone read Hikaru no go? Remember when Akira trained Ochi to beat the shit out of Hikaru so he wouldn't have to face him later on.

SKT trained Royal to beat the shit out of OMG so they don't have to play them in the finals.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#5036
On September 25 2013 13:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????

SKT T1 is probably a slightly better team than 4 random NA soloqers



Maybe just a tad
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#5037
On September 25 2013 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
Did anyone read Hikaru no go? Remember when Akira trained Ochi to beat the shit out of Hikaru so he wouldn't have to face him later on.

SKT trained Royal to beat the shit out of OMG so they don't have to play them in the finals.

Then Hikaru still stomps Ochi and becomes the greatest beginner Dan Go-player in history, yeah I remember this
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#5038
On September 25 2013 13:18 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:18 Shikyo wrote:
On September 25 2013 13:16 MooMooMugi wrote:
Faker played one Liss game in his recent soloQ games and it was a defeat, so by that logic NA soloQ > Gama Bears????

SKT T1 is probably a slightly better team than 4 random NA soloqers



Maybe just a tad

Nope hue
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#5039
On September 25 2013 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
Did anyone read Hikaru no go? Remember when Akira trained Ochi to beat the shit out of Hikaru so he wouldn't have to face him later on.

SKT trained Royal to beat the shit out of OMG so they don't have to play them in the finals.


HnG so good, but that comparison is real wtf. Why you compare Ochi to Royal club?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 25 2013 04:21 GMT
#5040
On September 25 2013 13:20 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 13:18 stuchiu wrote:
Did anyone read Hikaru no go? Remember when Akira trained Ochi to beat the shit out of Hikaru so he wouldn't have to face him later on.

SKT trained Royal to beat the shit out of OMG so they don't have to play them in the finals.


HnG so good, but that comparison is real wtf. Why you compare Ochi to Royal club?


It was the only relevant comparison. Though Royal is more like the third Japanese rep who always went tengen in the first move.
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