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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 21 2013 18:04 GMT
#12681
Speaking of player cams, does OGN have completely 0 delay? They easily could of course, with their booths, but I wonder if they actually have.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 21 2013 18:08 GMT
#12682
I wouldn't be surprised if Fnatic vs Ozone game 2 was the first time a foreign team has recovered from a disastrous early game against a Korean team. Then again I didn't watch the OGN that CLG.EU was in
Platinum Support GOD
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 21 2013 18:09 GMT
#12683
On September 22 2013 03:08 MattBarry wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Fnatic vs Ozone game 2 was the first time a foreign team has recovered from a disastrous early game against a Korean team. Then again I didn't watch the OGN that CLG.EU was in

suffice to say, dade and imp were beyond zuna status.
liftlift > tsm
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:15:10
September 21 2013 18:13 GMT
#12684
So it seems like Fanatic vs. Gambit is the only game that actually matters in terms of who progresses (apart from seeding)? Of course assuming there won't any major upsets like Ozone loosing to Vulcun.

I couldn't watch live all week due to the OP timezones, so I'm pretty hyped, even if most of the games will be stomps :p
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
September 21 2013 18:14 GMT
#12685
On September 22 2013 03:08 MattBarry wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Fnatic vs Ozone game 2 was the first time a foreign team has recovered from a disastrous early game against a Korean team. Then again I didn't watch the OGN that CLG.EU was in


Someone on this forum deprived Ozone of the status of being Korean already. OMG is now Korean.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 18:15 GMT
#12686
On September 22 2013 03:14 Don_Julio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:08 MattBarry wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Fnatic vs Ozone game 2 was the first time a foreign team has recovered from a disastrous early game against a Korean team. Then again I didn't watch the OGN that CLG.EU was in


Someone on this forum deprived Ozone of the status of being Korean already. OMG is now Korean.

Fuck that, it's now about being Chinese. I promote SKT to Chinese.
Glorious SEA doto
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:21:09
September 21 2013 18:16 GMT
#12687
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 21 2013 18:18 GMT
#12688
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B
Platinum Support GOD
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:20:05
September 21 2013 18:18 GMT
#12689
On September 22 2013 03:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:14 Don_Julio wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:08 MattBarry wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Fnatic vs Ozone game 2 was the first time a foreign team has recovered from a disastrous early game against a Korean team. Then again I didn't watch the OGN that CLG.EU was in


Someone on this forum deprived Ozone of the status of being Korean already. OMG is now Korean.

Fuck that, it's now about being Chinese. I promote SKT to Chinese.


It's the universe correcting the great injustice of DK at TI3. If the Chinese fall in one game they have to rise in another.

On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B


Geez yes. Why did SKT have to come back from 0-2. If they just lost they would have won the qualifiers anyway but it would mean KT B would be at worlds. Should stare angrily at faker
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 21 2013 18:19 GMT
#12690
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 21 2013 18:21 GMT
#12691
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.


They did well against everyone not SKT though. Can't really judge them by how they performed against SKT since Ryu didn't go full Dade against non-SKT teams.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 21 2013 18:21 GMT
#12692
Another thought I had was that I think the level of play in OGN is actually higher than at worlds most of the time because the OGN teams play in the same comfortable format and sort of challenge each other to higher levels, while at worlds they are thrown into an unknown situation with different metas. I think the strongest part of the Korean scene is the sheer amount of talent and rapid progress anways. Like, the CJ teams looked pretty bad recently but that new lineup already looks like an absurdly strong team on paper, just with a few roster changes. I think NA for example would actually be a lot stronger if they weren't so shy with roster changes. Imagine CLG with Xpecial or something like that.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 21 2013 18:21 GMT
#12693
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone
Platinum Support GOD
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#12694
On September 22 2013 03:21 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone


The Ozone slump is 20/20 hindseight though. Most people reasonably expected them to improve their form for worlds.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-21 18:24:23
September 21 2013 18:22 GMT
#12695
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.


Mh it's really hard to say. If you think about how KTB stomped the CJ teams in the regionals, while Ozone had an incredibly close 3-2 against Frost a few days prior to that. It has always been very unreliable to rank teams like that of course, but it's still interesting.

On September 22 2013 03:21 Woony wrote:
Like, the CJ teams looked pretty bad recently but that new lineup already looks like an absurdly strong team on paper, just with a few roster changes.


Did I miss something? Did they already announce new players? :o
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 21 2013 18:24 GMT
#12696
On September 22 2013 03:22 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:21 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone


The Ozone slump is 20/20 hindseight though. Most people reasonably expected them to improve their form for worlds.

They got 3rd in OGN, they were looking pretty good before worlds.
Platinum Support GOD
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 21 2013 18:25 GMT
#12697
On September 22 2013 03:22 UmberBane wrote:
Did I miss something? Did they already announce new players? :o


No, but there are rumors already. I think it's Ambition jungle, Flame mid, Madlife / Space bot and a new toplaner?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 21 2013 18:26 GMT
#12698
On September 22 2013 03:24 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:22 Woony wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:21 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone


The Ozone slump is 20/20 hindseight though. Most people reasonably expected them to improve their form for worlds.

They got 3rd in OGN, they were looking pretty good before worlds.


Yes but inbetween that 3rd place game and worlds there was a patch that changed a lot which we never saw them on.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 21 2013 18:26 GMT
#12699
On September 22 2013 03:24 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:22 Woony wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:21 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone


The Ozone slump is 20/20 hindseight though. Most people reasonably expected them to improve their form for worlds.

They got 3rd in OGN, they were looking pretty good before worlds.



Dunno, sure they got 3rd but they got dismantled by SKT and the games against Frost were pretty shaky.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 21 2013 18:27 GMT
#12700
On September 22 2013 03:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:24 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:22 Woony wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:21 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:19 Fusilero wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:18 MattBarry wrote:
On September 22 2013 03:16 Woony wrote:
I hate how so many people on Reddit etc. suddenly act like Koreans suck just because Ozone is in a slump. I think NJBS is going to surprise a lot of people.

It would be a ton more interesting in KT Bullets were in group B

I feel like people are retrospectively overhyping KTB, with how insec and kakao performed I don't think they'd do as well as you'd think.

I'd eat my socks if they did any worse than Ozone


The Ozone slump is 20/20 hindseight though. Most people reasonably expected them to improve their form for worlds.

They got 3rd in OGN, they were looking pretty good before worlds.


Yes but inbetween that 3rd place game and worlds there was a patch that changed a lot which we never saw them on.


Yeah, Ozone definitely got fucked by the meta changes. I was kinda scared for SKT too, but Piglet plays Corki at least.
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