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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1121
On August 31 2013 06:09 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:08 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Can someone explain that bush play and split to me? It's too next level for me or something

"We didn't want to win this game anyway"

lul
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1122
On August 31 2013 06:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:08 Numy wrote:
Hotshot better kick everyone on CLG but Nien. That was just embarrassing.


I honestly think the roster changes are quite a large part of CLG's bad play.


I think it's just they have done the wrong roster changes. When a team changes rosters so much but still has the exact same terrible gameplay/gameplan it must be the fault of the remaining members. If they had just removed Chauster and maybe Doubelift then we might have seen a different team. It's just too obvious those two have zero ability to change their gameplay or just don't care.

Ahahahahahha
CLG get rid of chauster
Ahahahahahaha you might as well ask for CLG.Madlife.
Glorious SEA doto
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2474 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1123
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1124
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.

QSS on Vayne doesn't help if you fail to cleanse the mark
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1125
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1126
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.


Clg lost both those games because they played like garbage.Picks literally had nothing to do with anything.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1127
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 21:15:26
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1128
CLG just sucks badly. They play teamfights poorly and they have awful decision making.

Every player on their team (with the exception of Jiji and Chauster) has the ability to be an amazing player in a good team. I think Link, for one, is one of the best mid in the NA scene, and Nien is getting good too, and obviously DL would be amazing anywhere....

But cohesively as a team CLG cannot make good decisions and when it times to make the plays they always choke.

They need to stop booting people (I agree with the above poster) and they need to just practice on making good decisions, timing their stuff so they know when objectives will be up, stop giving up objectives for free......not get caught randomly....

CLG makes the most amateur mistakes of almost all the teams in the LCS, and when they play well they dominate...but that almost never happens.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1129
On August 31 2013 06:11 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
bet you anything Chauster is arguing/conflicting with montecristo internally, there's noway after 2-3+ weeks of coaching their play style is literally the same shit as pre-montecristo.


everyone knows chauster is, at least theoretical, the best player in the world.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1130
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.


And? Zed does damage. That's his job. CC him and he explodes if you breathe on him.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1131
CLG
Jaedong :3
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1132
On August 31 2013 06:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:08 Numy wrote:
Hotshot better kick everyone on CLG but Nien. That was just embarrassing.


I honestly think the roster changes are quite a large part of CLG's bad play.


I think it's just they have done the wrong roster changes. When a team changes rosters so much but still has the exact same terrible gameplay/gameplan it must be the fault of the remaining members. If they had just removed Chauster and maybe Doubelift then we might have seen a different team. It's just too obvious those two have zero ability to change their gameplay or just don't care.


It was funny when people thought replacing Hotshot would change anything.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1133
On August 31 2013 06:13 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:11 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
bet you anything Chauster is arguing/conflicting with montecristo internally, there's noway after 2-3+ weeks of coaching their play style is literally the same shit as pre-montecristo.


everyone knows chauster is, at least theoretical, the best player in the world.

Chauster knows that chauster is the best player in the world.
Glorious SEA doto
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1134
"Better not contest any dragons or map objectives and just farm and hope for the best!"

Thank God I don't have to watch any more CLG anywhere close to the top of NA. Hopefully Vulcan/C9 win out and we get two teams that can actually compete at worlds.
In Inca we trust
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1135
Those games were cringeworthy, Some really questionable plays by CLG.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 21:15:15
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1136
On August 31 2013 06:13 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)


Tbh, C9 started off by basically copy+pasting Korean strategies for the first 2-3 weeks, and afterwards realized that they actually are pretty good players, and started variations on their plans and tweaking the Korean strategies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't C9 start the Zyra + Ashe bot lane first, before any other region?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1137
ROFL I didn't even realize Chasuter missed Crescendo on WT during the baron fight. Oh god.
Forever Young
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1138
Swift boots might have been better on Nasus vs. that team.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1139
On August 31 2013 06:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
CLG just sucks badly. They play teamfights poorly and they have awful decision making.

Every player on their team (with the exception of Jiji and Chauster) has the ability to be an amazing player in a good team. I think Link, for one, is one of the best mid in the NA scene, and Nien is getting good too, and obviously DL would be amazing anywhere....

But cohesively as a team CLG cannot make good decisions and when it times to make the plays they always choke.

They need to stop booting people (I agree with the above poster) and they need to just practice on making good decisions, timing their stuff so they know when objectives will be up, stop giving up objectives for free......not get caught randomly....

CLG makes the most amateur mistakes of almost all the teams in the LCS, and when they play well they dominate...but that almost never happens.

This is a very accurate description imo
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1140
On August 31 2013 06:14 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:13 Amethyst21 wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)


Tbh, C9 started off by basically copy+pasting Korean strategies for the first 2-3 weeks, and afterwards realized that they actually are pretty good players, and started variations on their plans and tweaking the Korean strategies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't C9 start the Zyra + Ashe bot lane first, before any other region?

Ye they were the one that popularised zyra/ashe due to their preference to put sneakycastro at very low farm priority so they go for bot lanes with high utility.
Glorious SEA doto
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