• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:49
CEST 15:49
KST 22:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
I have 0 hope Blizzard doing anything with SC IP SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games Man Bnet can't even load profile now, WTF Bot on ladder Ladder (still) not working?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr - bo7 - Sunday 9pm CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9224 users

[NA LCS] Summer Playoffs / Spring Promotional - Page 57

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 254 Next
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1121
On August 31 2013 06:09 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:08 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Can someone explain that bush play and split to me? It's too next level for me or something

"We didn't want to win this game anyway"

lul
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1122
On August 31 2013 06:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:08 Numy wrote:
Hotshot better kick everyone on CLG but Nien. That was just embarrassing.


I honestly think the roster changes are quite a large part of CLG's bad play.


I think it's just they have done the wrong roster changes. When a team changes rosters so much but still has the exact same terrible gameplay/gameplan it must be the fault of the remaining members. If they had just removed Chauster and maybe Doubelift then we might have seen a different team. It's just too obvious those two have zero ability to change their gameplay or just don't care.

Ahahahahahha
CLG get rid of chauster
Ahahahahahaha you might as well ask for CLG.Madlife.
Glorious SEA doto
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
August 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#1123
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.
Creator of Abyssal Reef, Ascension to Aiur, Battle on the Boardwalk, Habitation Station, Honorgrounds, IPL Darkness Falls, King's Cove, Korhal Carnage Knockout & Moonlight Madness.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1124
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.

QSS on Vayne doesn't help if you fail to cleanse the mark
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1125
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1126
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.


Clg lost both those games because they played like garbage.Picks literally had nothing to do with anything.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1127
No. What CLG needs to do is fucking KEEP A ROSTER and consistently WORK ON IT and not throw a plan overboard when it doesn't work out every 3 months. My opinion.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 21:15:26
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1128
CLG just sucks badly. They play teamfights poorly and they have awful decision making.

Every player on their team (with the exception of Jiji and Chauster) has the ability to be an amazing player in a good team. I think Link, for one, is one of the best mid in the NA scene, and Nien is getting good too, and obviously DL would be amazing anywhere....

But cohesively as a team CLG cannot make good decisions and when it times to make the plays they always choke.

They need to stop booting people (I agree with the above poster) and they need to just practice on making good decisions, timing their stuff so they know when objectives will be up, stop giving up objectives for free......not get caught randomly....

CLG makes the most amateur mistakes of almost all the teams in the LCS, and when they play well they dominate...but that almost never happens.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
August 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#1129
On August 31 2013 06:11 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
bet you anything Chauster is arguing/conflicting with montecristo internally, there's noway after 2-3+ weeks of coaching their play style is literally the same shit as pre-montecristo.


everyone knows chauster is, at least theoretical, the best player in the world.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1130
On August 31 2013 06:12 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:10 seoul_kiM wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:09 SidianTheBard wrote:
it's just because Zac and Zed are so fucking stupid champions. LCS really just needs to perma ban both those champions at worlds.


What??? Zed can be countered so easily.


Hourglass on Ahri, QSS on Vayne, doesn't matter cuz E & Q spam with 2 or 3 shadows out still does a fuck ton of damage.


And? Zed does damage. That's his job. CC him and he explodes if you breathe on him.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1131
CLG
Jaedong :3
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1132
On August 31 2013 06:11 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:08 Numy wrote:
Hotshot better kick everyone on CLG but Nien. That was just embarrassing.


I honestly think the roster changes are quite a large part of CLG's bad play.


I think it's just they have done the wrong roster changes. When a team changes rosters so much but still has the exact same terrible gameplay/gameplan it must be the fault of the remaining members. If they had just removed Chauster and maybe Doubelift then we might have seen a different team. It's just too obvious those two have zero ability to change their gameplay or just don't care.


It was funny when people thought replacing Hotshot would change anything.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1133
On August 31 2013 06:13 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:11 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
bet you anything Chauster is arguing/conflicting with montecristo internally, there's noway after 2-3+ weeks of coaching their play style is literally the same shit as pre-montecristo.


everyone knows chauster is, at least theoretical, the best player in the world.

Chauster knows that chauster is the best player in the world.
Glorious SEA doto
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1134
"Better not contest any dragons or map objectives and just farm and hope for the best!"

Thank God I don't have to watch any more CLG anywhere close to the top of NA. Hopefully Vulcan/C9 win out and we get two teams that can actually compete at worlds.
In Inca we trust
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1135
Those games were cringeworthy, Some really questionable plays by CLG.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-30 21:15:15
August 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#1136
On August 31 2013 06:13 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)


Tbh, C9 started off by basically copy+pasting Korean strategies for the first 2-3 weeks, and afterwards realized that they actually are pretty good players, and started variations on their plans and tweaking the Korean strategies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't C9 start the Zyra + Ashe bot lane first, before any other region?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1137
ROFL I didn't even realize Chasuter missed Crescendo on WT during the baron fight. Oh god.
Forever Young
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1138
Swift boots might have been better on Nasus vs. that team.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1139
On August 31 2013 06:13 Zergneedsfood wrote:
CLG just sucks badly. They play teamfights poorly and they have awful decision making.

Every player on their team (with the exception of Jiji and Chauster) has the ability to be an amazing player in a good team. I think Link, for one, is one of the best mid in the NA scene, and Nien is getting good too, and obviously DL would be amazing anywhere....

But cohesively as a team CLG cannot make good decisions and when it times to make the plays they always choke.

They need to stop booting people (I agree with the above poster) and they need to just practice on making good decisions, timing their stuff so they know when objectives will be up, stop giving up objectives for free......not get caught randomly....

CLG makes the most amateur mistakes of almost all the teams in the LCS, and when they play well they dominate...but that almost never happens.

This is a very accurate description imo
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#1140
On August 31 2013 06:14 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 06:13 Amethyst21 wrote:
On August 31 2013 06:11 RagequitBM wrote:
So salty CLG lost. But I'm also salty at all the comments bashing NA. Yes, we're not Koreans, but those comments are really annoying. Just enjoy the games haha


Yeah.

It's almost like one team didn't go 25-3 and basically crush everyone. Nope, NA is trash. (I mean NA is trash but there are some good teams)


Tbh, C9 started off by basically copy+pasting Korean strategies for the first 2-3 weeks, and afterwards realized that they actually are pretty good players, and started variations on their plans and tweaking the Korean strategies.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't C9 start the Zyra + Ashe bot lane first, before any other region?

Ye they were the one that popularised zyra/ashe due to their preference to put sneakycastro at very low farm priority so they go for bot lanes with high utility.
Glorious SEA doto
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 254 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
GSL
11:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 1
IntoTheiNu 823
CranKy Ducklings SOOP192
Classic 77
Cure 62
Rogue 61
Solar (SOOP)32
Rex28
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Classic 77
Cure 62
Rogue 61
Solar (SOOP) 32
MindelVK 32
Rex 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 9023
Jaedong 4235
Shuttle 1695
firebathero 693
Soulkey 605
Stork 282
Leta 237
Mini 191
Zeus 178
Last 124
[ Show more ]
ZerO 81
Sea.KH 65
ToSsGirL 62
910 50
Barracks 38
Aegong 31
sSak 20
SilentControl 16
Noble 12
Free 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Icarus 7
JulyZerg 7
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc6354
Dendi927
Other Games
singsing1794
B2W.Neo911
Lowko440
crisheroes291
DeMusliM284
mouzStarbuck221
Hui .182
XaKoH 119
Mew2King63
QueenE13
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7130
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream3069
Other Games
gamesdonequick958
BasetradeTV35
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4593
League of Legends
• Jankos608
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
3h 11m
Replay Cast
10h 11m
GSL
21h 11m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 1h
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
1d 5h
Ret vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 20h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-18
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.