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Lustboy and Hermes is so bad I'm laughing my ass off, what the actual f*ck
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Game over. Flame should tell Blaze to change shit or just bounce. What a pitiful series. Hermes was an abomination.
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On September 05 2013 20:35 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:
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People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place. dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important. On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games? i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter... Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic. did YOU read what you wrote? Show nested quote +
You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place
this is stupid. why am i even talking to you lol
In that context it's very obvious I meant it as the relative skill level of that team. Winning NLB effectively means you are the best team outside top 4 at OGN. How could you ever say that the winner of NLB is better than a team that got 2nd place last season in the premier tournament in Korea? And better than a team that made it out of the same group you were in while you didn't?
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[22:02] CJ Flame: ggwp pls report my noob team
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I just feel really bad for Flame
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Hahahah so much troll with this Fizz at the end :D
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Hermes, Lustboy and Ambition were fucking awful.
Helios wasn't great, but he wasn't awful.
Flame outplayed inSec in all three games, but it didn't matter since Hermes was down 50 CS to Score every fucking game by 10 minutes.
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On September 05 2013 20:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:35 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:
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People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place. dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important. On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games? i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter... Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic. did YOU read what you wrote?
You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place
this is stupid. why am i even talking to you lol In that context it's very obvious I meant it as the relative skill level of that team. Winning NLB effectively means you are the best team outside top 4 at OGN. How could you ever say that the winner of NLB is better than a team that got 2nd place last season in the premier tournament in Korea? And better than a team that made it out of the same group you were in while you didn't?
2nd place is 1st loser. Why should Blaze by hyped for getting second when Sword was 1st a few months before?
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Please go to game 4 where insec goes on to pick heimerdinger top. Plz
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On September 05 2013 20:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Please go to game 4 where insec goes on to pick heimerdinger top. Plz
This is a great idea, please go for few games more with troll picks from InSec.
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It's not often that I get upset at a pro team/progamer for their performance, because I know it affects them far more than it does me, but god damn. That series was atrocious.
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i wonder if they have many many copies of these suits, or if they actually have to get them dry cleaned every day for this week :o
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On September 05 2013 20:34 eGoRama wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:33 Gahlo wrote:On September 05 2013 20:32 eGoRama wrote:
Flame with Tiamat. So? He will die easily if going with dmg build, Tiamat is tricky when you have to be a bit tanky esp against fed adc
well that is the problem with the renekton kit, his 3 basic skills scale with ad, his ultimate demands tank stats
building to snowball lane diminishes teamfight presence
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Dear CJ, please change Flame to Frost's starting midlaner
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Poll: Who will win Round 2?KT Rolster Bullets (12) 60% CJ Entus Frost (8) 40% 20 total votes Your vote: Who will win Round 2? (Vote): CJ Entus Frost
(Vote): KT Rolster Bullets
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On September 05 2013 20:47 dooraven wrote:
Dear CJ, please change Flame to Frost's starting midlaner
GBM was pretty good vs KTB no?
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I feel bad for Flame.
His team too heavy to carry.
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What I learned from tonight is Flame is Korea's best top lane player, dade broke Ambition permanently, and all four of Blaze's bot lane should just be cut.
If you're not going to use CptJack in this situation, then it's over. He played lights out against Bullets last time, but they went with Hermes. I feel like you can't go back from there.
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Well that was an incredibly disappointing series to say the least. Very little fight in Blaze especially considering what was at stake.
The Blaze bot lane got just ludicrously crushed by KT... It's hard to wrap my head around how badly they got beat in each and every game, I don't even see that kind of disparity in silver league. Ambition mostly went even in CS but aside from that, made virtually no plays for his team and had very little impact. Only Flame and Helios played even moderately well this series, though a part of that may just be Insec being hot garbage tonight and them tag teaming him. It's really surprising how a team can be in the finals of OGN Spring on a 13 game win streak and look so poor only a few months later. I really think they should just have kept Jack in even though he made a lot of errors. The team as a whole seems much more cohesive when he is playing.
I'm curious to see what Blaze will do for next season. I feel like they were at their best with Jack in the team and I'm all for continuity, but after this embarrassment it's hard to imagine Blaze won't make some roster adjustments for season 4.
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