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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
September 05 2013 11:36 GMT
#501
Lustboy and Hermes is so bad I'm laughing my ass off, what the actual f*ck
Jaedong & Faker
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2013 11:36 GMT
#502
Game over. Flame should tell Blaze to change shit or just bounce. What a pitiful series. Hermes was an abomination.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 05 2013 11:39 GMT
#503
On September 05 2013 20:35 bokchoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:
[quote]
People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters.


People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8.

How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time.


Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now

Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN.


You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D

OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference.

You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place.


dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important.

On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games?


i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter...

Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic.


did YOU read what you wrote?
Show nested quote +

You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place


this is stupid. why am i even talking to you lol

In that context it's very obvious I meant it as the relative skill level of that team. Winning NLB effectively means you are the best team outside top 4 at OGN. How could you ever say that the winner of NLB is better than a team that got 2nd place last season in the premier tournament in Korea? And better than a team that made it out of the same group you were in while you didn't?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
September 05 2013 11:39 GMT
#504
[22:02] CJ Flame: ggwp pls report my noob team
Writer:o
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 05 2013 11:40 GMT
#505
I just feel really bad for Flame
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
September 05 2013 11:40 GMT
#506
Hahahah so much troll with this Fizz at the end :D
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2013 11:41 GMT
#507
Hermes, Lustboy and Ambition were fucking awful.

Helios wasn't great, but he wasn't awful.

Flame outplayed inSec in all three games, but it didn't matter since Hermes was down 50 CS to Score every fucking game by 10 minutes.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
September 05 2013 11:41 GMT
#508
On September 05 2013 20:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 20:35 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:
[quote]

People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8.

How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time.


Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now

Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN.


You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D

OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference.

You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place.


dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important.

On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games?


i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter...

Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic.


did YOU read what you wrote?

You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place


this is stupid. why am i even talking to you lol

In that context it's very obvious I meant it as the relative skill level of that team. Winning NLB effectively means you are the best team outside top 4 at OGN. How could you ever say that the winner of NLB is better than a team that got 2nd place last season in the premier tournament in Korea? And better than a team that made it out of the same group you were in while you didn't?


2nd place is 1st loser. Why should Blaze by hyped for getting second when Sword was 1st a few months before?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 05 2013 11:42 GMT
#509
Poor Flame...
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 05 2013 11:42 GMT
#510
Please go to game 4 where insec goes on to pick heimerdinger top. Plz
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
September 05 2013 11:43 GMT
#511
On September 05 2013 20:42 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Please go to game 4 where insec goes on to pick heimerdinger top. Plz


This is a great idea, please go for few games more with troll picks from InSec.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 05 2013 11:45 GMT
#512
It's not often that I get upset at a pro team/progamer for their performance, because I know it affects them far more than it does me, but god damn. That series was atrocious.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 11:45:55
September 05 2013 11:45 GMT
#513
i wonder if they have many many copies of these suits, or if they actually have to get them dry cleaned every day for this week :o
Writer:o
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
September 05 2013 11:45 GMT
#514
On September 05 2013 20:34 eGoRama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 20:33 Gahlo wrote:
On September 05 2013 20:32 eGoRama wrote:
Flame with Tiamat.

So?


He will die easily if going with dmg build, Tiamat is tricky when you have to be a bit tanky esp against fed adc


well that is the problem with the renekton kit, his 3 basic skills scale with ad, his ultimate demands tank stats
building to snowball lane diminishes teamfight presence
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
September 05 2013 11:47 GMT
#515
Dear CJ, please change Flame to Frost's starting midlaner
Go go Alliance.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 05 2013 11:51 GMT
#516
Poll: Who will win Round 2?

KT Rolster Bullets (12)
 
60%

CJ Entus Frost (8)
 
40%

20 total votes

Your vote: Who will win Round 2?

(Vote): CJ Entus Frost
(Vote): KT Rolster Bullets


RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
nanospartan
Profile Joined July 2011
649 Posts
September 05 2013 11:55 GMT
#517
On September 05 2013 20:47 dooraven wrote:
Dear CJ, please change Flame to Frost's starting midlaner

GBM was pretty good vs KTB no?
I was an athiest until I watched the Day[9] daily
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 05 2013 11:55 GMT
#518
I feel bad for Flame.

His team too heavy to carry.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2013 11:56 GMT
#519
What I learned from tonight is Flame is Korea's best top lane player, dade broke Ambition permanently, and all four of Blaze's bot lane should just be cut.

If you're not going to use CptJack in this situation, then it's over. He played lights out against Bullets last time, but they went with Hermes. I feel like you can't go back from there.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
September 05 2013 11:57 GMT
#520
Well that was an incredibly disappointing series to say the least. Very little fight in Blaze especially considering what was at stake.

The Blaze bot lane got just ludicrously crushed by KT... It's hard to wrap my head around how badly they got beat in each and every game, I don't even see that kind of disparity in silver league. Ambition mostly went even in CS but aside from that, made virtually no plays for his team and had very little impact. Only Flame and Helios played even moderately well this series, though a part of that may just be Insec being hot garbage tonight and them tag teaming him. It's really surprising how a team can be in the finals of OGN Spring on a 13 game win streak and look so poor only a few months later. I really think they should just have kept Jack in even though he made a lot of errors. The team as a whole seems much more cohesive when he is playing.

I'm curious to see what Blaze will do for next season. I feel like they were at their best with Jack in the team and I'm all for continuity, but after this embarrassment it's hard to imagine Blaze won't make some roster adjustments for season 4.
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