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Yeh put all on Flame while the other lanes are getting destroyed.
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United States23455 Posts
Maybe Ambition isn't in a slump. He might just have gone the way of the dinosaurs.
At least Flame/Helios have a good synergy.
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On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:05 Fionn wrote:On September 05 2013 20:04 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:01 Gahlo wrote:This isn't even fun, I can't celebrate with anybody in here. On September 05 2013 19:59 bokchoi wrote:
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not just his back, but his spirit and will Insec-Bane? I'll celebrate with you, Blaze has been so overrated this whole season. Got an easy as fuck group with a shitty team, a slumping team and an inexperienced team. Also, Fionn spamming the whole thread makes Blaze getting destroyed oh-so-delicious :p How were they overrated. They were underdogs vs. Bullets in the quarters and were afterthoughts coming into the Korean Regionals. People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference.
You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place.
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Wow flame ?! He is impressing me a lot right now
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Okay in all honesty. What the fuck is wrong with Ambition. We can understand Helios, Lustboy, and Hermes, no one really had any expectations for them, but Ambition? You were considered the #1 mid in Korea, and then post that beat down you took to Dade, still considered a Top 3 mid. You're still in the top 4 of Korean Challenger. Ambition is seriously the biggest question mark to me.
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All are top cause they know that Lee is the only they can kill :D
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12min, Hermes with 67cs .. HOW ?
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United States7639 Posts
Huh. I just woke up, was still hoping for a night of good games. Then again, seeing 2-0 for KT, Ambition and Blaze bot lane already feeding, not really surprised. Time to backtrack for lots of Fionn salt 
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
maybe cj can make a good team out of their two right now.
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Half the cs, 2 deaths to 3 kills, lose 2 towers in your lane... I think I could do that. Put me in coach
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United States23455 Posts
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games?
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On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:05 Fionn wrote:On September 05 2013 20:04 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:01 Gahlo wrote:
This isn't even fun, I can't celebrate with anybody in here.
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Insec-Bane? I'll celebrate with you, Blaze has been so overrated this whole season. Got an easy as fuck group with a shitty team, a slumping team and an inexperienced team. Also, Fionn spamming the whole thread makes Blaze getting destroyed oh-so-delicious :p How were they overrated. They were underdogs vs. Bullets in the quarters and were afterthoughts coming into the Korean Regionals. People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place.
dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important.
On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games?
i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter...
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On September 05 2013 20:29 oneofthem wrote:
maybe cj can make a good team out of their two right now.
Yeah they could also mash them all together on Frost and put either Shy or Flame mid, then maybe leave Ambition to raise up a new Blaze team in SKT style with fresh talent
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blaze looks hella lost this 3rd game
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On September 05 2013 20:32 eGoRama wrote:
Flame with Tiamat.
So?
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On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:05 Fionn wrote:On September 05 2013 20:04 DragoonTT wrote:
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I'll celebrate with you, Blaze has been so overrated this whole season. Got an easy as fuck group with a shitty team, a slumping team and an inexperienced team. Also, Fionn spamming the whole thread makes Blaze getting destroyed oh-so-delicious :p How were they overrated. They were underdogs vs. Bullets in the quarters and were afterthoughts coming into the Korean Regionals. People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place. dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important. Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games? i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter...
Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic.
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On September 05 2013 20:33 Gahlo wrote:So?
He will die easily if going with dmg build, Tiamat is tricky when you have to be a bit tanky esp against fed adc
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On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:05 Fionn wrote:
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How were they overrated. They were underdogs vs. Bullets in the quarters and were afterthoughts coming into the Korean Regionals. People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place. dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important. On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games? i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter... Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic.
did YOU read what you wrote?
You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place
this is stupid. why am i even talking to you lol
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On September 05 2013 20:33 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 20:31 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:25 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:19 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 05 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:On September 05 2013 20:12 DragoonTT wrote:On September 05 2013 20:05 Fionn wrote:
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How were they overrated. They were underdogs vs. Bullets in the quarters and were afterthoughts coming into the Korean Regionals. People expected them to crush their group easily. People completely went over the top with the CTU hype when they tied Blaze. People already said NaJin was out of World Finals competition when they were revealed to go against Blaze in NLB quarters. People actually expect Sword to crush the group and tabbed them as the early favorites for Winter. When they tied CTU all that changed, but they were still expected to advance. Blaze was also not favored vs Sword in the NLB Ro8. How was Blaze not favored against Sword? They lost to KT B 3-2 and actually made it to the ro8. Sword hadn't done anything the past 2 seasons in the mean time. Korean Fan Logic? Sword won NLB 2 seasons in a row, while that might seem like nothing to the international scene its still very important and noteworthy achievement. Those 2 straight NLB victories are the reason they're going to worlds right now Do you understand the significance of NLB? It's a loser's bracket tournament essentially. Blaze couldn't participate in the Spring one because you know.. they were busy playing a FINALS in OGN. It's not a noteworthy achievement whatsoever. That's like saying placing 5th is a noteworthy achievement in OGN. You actually get the same amount of points for winning NLB as you get for getting 4th in Champions. So if anything, its like you tied for 4th :D OGN ain't the end all. Like I said. NLB may not seem like a big deal to the international scene, but it has its place and relevance in the Korean scene. Hence the reason NaJin Black Sword is the #1 Korean seed going into worlds. If NLB was worth less, Ozone would be first seed, its a 30 circuit point difference. You get the same amount of poitns because the circuit point system is designed poorly. That doesn't make it a noteworthy or crowning achievement and something to be respected. Let me be more clear. I'm sure they take the tournament seriously, but it's a lesser achievement than placing top 4 in OGN because to enter the tournament you need to be below that in the first place. dunno why you're being so stubborn. if you don't wanna believe what I'm saying whatever. but there's no reason to demean NLB because you don't feel its important. On September 05 2013 20:31 Fionn wrote:
Would Tribunal ban Hermes if Flame reported him after these games? i don't think the Korean tribunal actually bans anyone.. or Riot Korea for that matter... Did you read what I wrote? I didn't imply it "wasn't" important. I'm simply saying that winning NLB doesn't mean you're a better team than a a team that finishes top 4 at OGN. That would be ridiculous logic.
It's about consistency.
S3 placements:
Sword: 1st, 5th, 5th
Blaze: 4th, 2nd, 9th-12th
Now please, shut up.
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