EPT[NA LCS] Super Summer Week 9 - Page 144
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:23 Itsmedudeman wrote: Look at C9's team though. What ADC wouldn't do well on their team in this split going 22-3 and dominating everyone; you're not gonna really have many opportunities to be bad. Sneaky has the easiest job in the game. Meteos, Balls, and Hai are typically all huge threats in almost every game. All the other cores on his team have historically bigger impacts on the game than he has and he's never had to truly "carry" his team. To clarify things. If you're asking me who I'd want to put in the ADC for another all stars game with the best chance of winning it probably wouldn't be sneaky. That's exactly what I'm saying. Lemonation pretty much said in a reddit ama that you could put Wildturtle or qtpie in and they'd be fine. | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:23 beefhamburger wrote: I'm pretty sure DL doesn't know Panth's ult does damage. He's not worried about the damage but the positioning he will be left in if he stays in the water. DL's mindset was get on the ridge and use Ez's skill shots to do damage and have a better position. Staying in the water was an insta-death sentence. It was just unlucky that he got stunned into the wall. It was probably his best choice. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:24 Amethyst21 wrote: Oh, my mistake. Carry on good sir! Also of note: Sneaky has a KDA of 6.8 (2nd in the LCS behind Meteos and his godly 12.4 KDA) He also has the 3rd highest GPM in the LCS (behind Mancloud and Doublelift) so Copp was your spring split adc mvp? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:25 Fusilero wrote: I say sneakycastro is the best this split tbh somewhat by default, for a role NA takes so much pride in every ADC across the board except cop has underperformed pretty hard. On a positive note though NA mid laners have stepped it up big time this split which midlaners are you talking about? Only mancloud consistently looking scary, hai/balls (depending on game) can be solid, but NA overall, has pretty bad mids. I'd put him on most improved. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:26 wei2coolman wrote: which midlaners are you talking about? Only mancloud consistently looking scary, hai/balls (depending on game) can be solid, but NA overall, has pretty bad mids. Link and mancloud primarily. To a lesser extent regi's gotten his throws in check more than before, hai's good at his job. Only nyjacky has been a significant downgrade in performance imo. Ecco has tried to drag velocity across the finishing line. As for shiphtur... #FreeJintae. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:28 Fusilero wrote: Link and mancloud primarily. To a lesser extent regi's gotten his throws in check more than before, hai's good at his job. Only nyjacky has been a significant downgrade in performance imo. Scarra also, wei you are totally missing the argument. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:28 Fusilero wrote: Link and mancloud primarily. To a lesser extent regi's gotten his throws in check more than before, hai's good at his job. Only nyjacky has been a significant downgrade in performance imo. Don't forget Scarra's decline - he was an All-Star in Spring Split, which is crazy to me right now. Although maybe with some more manly performances he can win me back. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:26 wei2coolman wrote: which midlaners are you talking about? Only mancloud consistently looking scary, hai/balls (depending on game) can be solid, but NA overall, has pretty bad mids. I'd put him on most improved. Bad mids compared to the rest of the world I guess... But I'd say relative to the other roles in NA the players are at least as good or better. EU has always had legendary mids and Korea is just as scary. | ||
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SimulatedAnneal
765 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:27 ExoFun wrote: Isnt there a 3way tie if Curse wins the next game? Apparently because Curse wins the h2h against both dig and CLG, they get seeded ahead of them. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:28 Fusilero wrote: Link and mancloud primarily. To a lesser extent regi's gotten his throws in check more than before, hai's good at his job. Only nyjacky has been a significant downgrade in performance imo. Forgot about Link. He's been solid. Nyjacky has been so shit. As a massive nyjacky fanboi, I've been more sad about his downwards trend than I have been about the entire team's downwards trend. I'll just blame it on bad habits when playing with Saint. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:29 Swords wrote: Don't forget Scarra's decline - he was an All-Star in Spring Split, which is crazy to me right now. Although maybe with some more manly performances he can win me back. Scarra not on decline, he's been just as bad during spring split imo. | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:29 SimulatedAnneal wrote: Apparently because Curse wins the h2h against both dig and CLG, they get seeded ahead of them. The EUW rulebook is outdated... if you compare it with the NA one. | ||
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Amethyst21
Canada7032 Posts
I kind of hate rating things on stats that I don't really think tell us that much about the game. However they do say *something.* Sneaky plays the role within the team very well. I don't know if you could just put Cop/qtpie/Dlift into his spot, but he does do well to put up good stats on a team where he doesn't necessarily have the freedom to play the carry champs like Vayne and Trist. Both Sneaky this split and Cop last split are products on the system, so its difficult to rate them, but for me Sneaky's lack of derp moments, strong play with a variety of champions make me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile, even when Cop was playing well, Cop was still Cop. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:32 Amethyst21 wrote: I kind of hate rating things on stats that I don't really think tell us that much about the game. However they do say *something.* Sneaky plays the role within the team very well. I don't know if you could just put Cop/qtpie/Dlift into his spot, but he does do well to put up good stats on a team where he doesn't necessarily have the freedom to play the carry champs like Vayne and Trist. Both Sneaky this split and Cop last split are products on the system, so its difficult to rate them, but for me Sneaky's lack of derp moments, strong play with a variety of champions make me want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile, even when Cop was playing well, Cop was still Cop. I'd put up more of a fight on this because I Feel spring Copp and Sneaky are basically a mirror of one another, but I basically agree with the original sentiment that nobody stands out so you could say just about anyone and not be straight up wrong here. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:31 wei2coolman wrote: Scarra not on decline, he's been just as bad during spring split imo. I don't think he was deserving of an All-Star spot (Mancloud was), but he certainly wasn't as bad as he was this season. That may have been because he was allowed to play Gragas/Diana every game and Kiwi didn't feed in top lane though. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
Bans: Zac Riven Twitch Shen Elise Zed Picks: Ahri Thresh,Caitlyn Zyra,Vayne Orianna,Amumu Lee Sin,Kha'Zix Kennen | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 17 2013 11:38 Swords wrote: I don't think he was deserving of an All-Star spot (Mancloud was), but he certainly wasn't as bad as he was this season. That may have been because he was allowed to play Gragas/Diana every game and Kiwi didn't feed in top lane though. Back in spring split crumbzz was also imo the best jungler right up until week 9 scarra definitely had it easier back then (Hard to believe watching them now that for quite a long time the best jungler NA was a two man race between crumbzz and saint) | ||
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