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On August 17 2013 11:12 Koenig99 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:10 Fusilero wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 bittman wrote:On August 17 2013 11:08 Fusilero wrote:
Wtf is up with doublelift seriously he's done so many wrong things this week. He's been really unimpressive this summer season. Who's the mvp adc for this season though? Sneakycastro easily. Really? His playstyle fits the team well, but I don't think he's a top tier adc at all.
He makes the least mistakes. You aren't comparing him to ADC of the world, comparing to ADC in NA LCS this split. Pretty much every other ADC has played like trash for a lot of the split and had maybe a few moments of good play. Sneaky at least has never really played that badly. Surely that gives him mvp adc.
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On August 17 2013 11:13 johnnywup wrote:MonteCristo @ggCMonteCristo 31s Not much to say. I hope we can beat Dignitas for a decent playoff seed.
tbh I've heard Monte say before he thinks Pantheon is legit and should be played in the pro scene more, so he's probly a lot less surprised than the people who were buying what Jatt was selling
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I think the seeding for NA is pretty much gonna be spot on. C9 and Vulcun clearly top 2, TSM barely 3 and Crs/Dig/CLG scattered 4-6.
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The only other adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie).
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On August 17 2013 11:15 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:13 johnnywup wrote:On August 17 2013 11:09 Slusher wrote:
waiting for the Monte rage tweet. MonteCristo @ggCMonteCristo 31s Not much to say. I hope we can beat Dignitas for a decent playoff seed. tbh I've heard Monte say before he thinks Pantheon is legit and should be played in the pro scene more, so he's probly a lot less surprised than the people who were buying what Jatt was selling
Don't forget Atrioc's guide to Pantheon too.
When you think about it, Pantheon's passive is almost a Warmogs if you get it off a few times in a teamfight against a team that relies almost exclusively on the AD Carry to win.
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On August 17 2013 11:13 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:11 Itsmedudeman wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 Shikyo wrote:On August 17 2013 11:08 Swords wrote:
Look at that terrible lategame scaling Pantheon! His e only hit 5 people for a quarter of their health each, what a terrible lategame champ. Deals more dmg than Kat ult without target limit on a 6 second cooldown on a 2.5 times shorter channel. Such a useless champion in the lategame. It's really not that great of an argument when you use katarina as a comparison. What champion's ult deals more dmg than Kat's, then?
Poitn being kat is not a very strong late game champion. IF you get the perfect setup without interruption and if you can survive you can do a lot of dmg. If not you're useless. When you're a melee hero with no real innate survivability you're gonna have a harder time. Luckily Zac and Sona are really good setups and CLG had literally no damage.
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On August 17 2013 11:14 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:12 Koenig99 wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 Fusilero wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 bittman wrote:On August 17 2013 11:08 Fusilero wrote:
Wtf is up with doublelift seriously he's done so many wrong things this week. He's been really unimpressive this summer season. Who's the mvp adc for this season though? Sneakycastro easily. Really? His playstyle fits the team well, but I don't think he's a top tier adc at all. He makes the least mistakes. You aren't comparing him to ADC of the world, comparing to ADC in NA LCS this split. Pretty much every other ADC has played like trash for a lot of the split and had maybe a few moments of good play. Sneaky at least has never really played that badly. Surely that gives him mvp adc.
MVP should be the most valuable. It's really hard to tell, as with any team game, but I'm pretty sure C9 would still win with another LCS level ADC.
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Haha Dig didn't realize they might have to play more games. Don't they have a manager to keep track of things like tournament standings and format.
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On August 17 2013 11:18 Fusilero wrote:
The only adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie).
You missed the ADC of the team that is currently 24-3.
Not saying he's a world class player, but let's say he's been consistently good for C9 and plays his role as the 3rd position carry very well.
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On August 17 2013 11:20 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:18 Fusilero wrote:
The only adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie). You missed the ADC of the team that is currently 24-3. Not saying he's a world class player, but let's say he's been consistently good for C9 and plays his role as the 3rd position carry very well.
It's why I said that sneakycastro is the best adc this split.
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On August 17 2013 11:21 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:20 Amethyst21 wrote:On August 17 2013 11:18 Fusilero wrote:
The only adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie). You missed the ADC of the team that is currently 24-3. Not saying he's a world class player, but let's say he's been consistently good for C9 and plays his role as the 3rd position carry very well. It's why I said that sneakycastro is the best adc this split.
Cop has been consistent but post-Draven nerf his presence in the Curse games has been incredibly lacking.
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On August 17 2013 11:20 BlackMagister wrote:
Haha Dig didn't realize they might have to play more games. Don't they have a manager to keep track of things like tournament standings and format.
ODEE also has to run the rest of the Dignitas organisation so I doubt day-to-day they have as much support.
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Sneaky best adc performance this split, not best adc.
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On August 17 2013 11:19 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:14 Numy wrote:On August 17 2013 11:12 Koenig99 wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 Fusilero wrote:On August 17 2013 11:10 bittman wrote:On August 17 2013 11:08 Fusilero wrote:
Wtf is up with doublelift seriously he's done so many wrong things this week. He's been really unimpressive this summer season. Who's the mvp adc for this season though? Sneakycastro easily. Really? His playstyle fits the team well, but I don't think he's a top tier adc at all. He makes the least mistakes. You aren't comparing him to ADC of the world, comparing to ADC in NA LCS this split. Pretty much every other ADC has played like trash for a lot of the split and had maybe a few moments of good play. Sneaky at least has never really played that badly. Surely that gives him mvp adc. MVP should be the most valuable. It's really hard to tell, as with any team game, but I'm pretty sure C9 would still win with another LCS level ADC.
Look at C9's team though. What ADC wouldn't do well on their team in this split going 22-3 and dominating everyone; you're not gonna really have many opportunities to be bad. Sneaky has the easiest job in the game. Meteos, Balls, and Hai are typically all huge threats in almost every game. All the other cores on his team have historically bigger impacts on the game than he has and he's never had to truly "carry" his team.
To clarify things. If you're asking me who I'd want to put in the ADC for another all stars game with the best chance of winning it probably wouldn't be sneaky.
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I'm pretty sure DL doesn't know Panth's ult does damage.
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On August 17 2013 11:20 Amethyst21 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:18 Fusilero wrote:
The only adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie). You missed the ADC of the team that is currently 24-3. Not saying he's a world class player, but let's say he's been consistently good for C9 and plays his role as the 3rd position carry very well.
My question is how do you think Sneaky would do if inserted into CLG, Dig, Crs, etc.? An MVP to me is someone who makes a tremendous difference to their team. Sneaky is great at playing his role, but I don't think of him as the MVP. That being said, I'm not sure any of the other teams have consistent enough adcs to make a consistently positive difference for their team. So maybe he is?
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On August 17 2013 11:21 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 11:20 Amethyst21 wrote:On August 17 2013 11:18 Fusilero wrote:
The only adc this split I can say that has consistently performed is cop besides that we either have throw artist (Zuna/doublelift), mediocre (maplestreet/dontmashme) or just agonizingly inconsistent (Wildturtle/qtpie). You missed the ADC of the team that is currently 24-3. Not saying he's a world class player, but let's say he's been consistently good for C9 and plays his role as the 3rd position carry very well. It's why I said that sneakycastro is the best adc this split.
Oh, my mistake. Carry on good sir!
Also of note:
Sneaky has a KDA of 6.8 (2nd in the LCS behind Meteos and his godly 12.4 KDA)
He also has the 3rd highest GPM in the LCS (behind Mancloud and Doublelift)
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