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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
August 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#181
On August 15 2013 05:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Did clg firstpick Zac? I don't understand why coast picks full AP comp with a low carry potential ezreal into zac who's the best user of the OP 3.10 spiritvisage.

CLG firstpicked Ahri, and Coast went for Ezreal/Ziggs. Not only did they miss out on getting a decent counter for Ahri (like, Diana to out-roam her) but gave away their trick pick right away AND let Zac and Thresh through. Really stupid
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#182
On August 15 2013 05:50 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:49 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I feel bad for CLG when enemy teams stop letting Nien play overtly overpowered champions, or they have players that can shut them down. I don't understand how Thresh, Elise, Zac (I only know op junglers that are op in lane) aren't pick and banned as the first champions. There's a reason why C9 would auto pick Zac first every single game.


Then you see Crumbz Zac, and realize why sometimes not banning Zac is okay in NA.

We also saw what happens when you let Chauster practice thresh as much as he wants, he can actually become competent with it.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#183
On August 15 2013 05:53 Silentenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:50 ketchup wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:49 Silentenigma wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:48 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:47 Fusilero wrote:
I have no idea what this ziggs is still doing.


trollpick^^

LOL I didnt notice ziggs.Wtf why did they pick him rofl.


You didn't notice their mid pick for 25 minutes??

I am watching for 5 mins Is ziggs buffed or sth?I dont even see him in solo queue.


lol okay. No, he was not changed. I assume Coast thought they had a team comp that Ziggs would excel against. It doesn't seem to have turned out like that
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#184
Chauster is doing a superb job at vision control. They are far ahead now so it's pretty easy but his pinks in the midgame were spot on.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#185
On August 15 2013 05:53 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:52 Amethyst21 wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Did clg firstpick Zac? I don't understand why coast picks full AP comp with a low carry potential ezreal into zac who's the best user of the OP 3.10 spiritvisage.


Remember, Coast is coached by Elementz. Which explains why they went to the #2 team in NA to the #7 team after they got him as a coach.


touché
what do you guys think will be double's 6th item after qss? IE or PD?


Has to be IE now.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 14 2013 20:55 GMT
#186
Spirit visage is the defensive item for doublelift :O
Glorious SEA doto
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#187
I can sorta see what cst wanted, against a team with so much dive, but I still didn't like it, and they have not converted me. I just don't see them having the damage required against the divers, even if they can disengage, Zac will just jump in again later, as he as done to great effect.

Too my great sadness, it seems evil (CLG) will prevail yet again.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#188
On August 15 2013 05:54 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:51 AsnSensation wrote:
Did clg firstpick Zac? I don't understand why coast picks full AP comp with a low carry potential ezreal into zac who's the best user of the OP 3.10 spiritvisage.

CLG firstpicked Ahri, and Coast went for Ezreal/Ziggs. Not only did they miss out on getting a decent counter for Ahri (like, Diana to out-roam her) but gave away their trick pick right away AND let Zac and Thresh through. Really stupid


This. It's fine to pick Ziggs, but you can't let CLG get both Thresh and Zac for their 2nd and 3rd picks. I don't see what the rush was to pick Ziggs when they already knew the enemy mid.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#189
The funny thing about all of this is, Ziggs is not the problem for coast right now. Look at Shiphtur, and look at the rest of the team.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#190
On August 15 2013 05:55 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:53 Silentenigma wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:50 ketchup wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:49 Silentenigma wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:48 AsnSensation wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:47 Fusilero wrote:
I have no idea what this ziggs is still doing.


trollpick^^

LOL I didnt notice ziggs.Wtf why did they pick him rofl.


You didn't notice their mid pick for 25 minutes??

I am watching for 5 mins Is ziggs buffed or sth?I dont even see him in solo queue.


lol okay. No, he was not changed. I assume Coast thought they had a team comp that Ziggs would excel against. It doesn't seem to have turned out like that


That's why taking him first pick was so bizarre. They didn't even know what CLG was going to do.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#191
hmm looks like banshees over qss
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:58:40
August 14 2013 20:57 GMT
#192
On August 15 2013 05:56 bokchoi wrote:
The funny thing about all of this is, Ziggs is not the problem for coast right now. Look at Shiphtur, and look at the rest of the team.


Yeah, but the problem isn't what Ziggs is doing, it's that they took Ziggs and let CLG get Zac/Thresh. It was pretty unlikely CLG was going to take Ziggs, especially when they'd already picked Ahri.
Pinith
Profile Joined September 2010
651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:58:40
August 14 2013 20:58 GMT
#193
On August 15 2013 05:55 Fusilero wrote:
Spirit visage is the defensive item for doublelift :O


The new Banshees passive hp regen is good against poke from Ziggs/Ezreal, and the shield stops what little engage Coast has.
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
August 14 2013 20:58 GMT
#194
I just can't see how they will kill Zac at this point...
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 14 2013 20:59 GMT
#195
On August 15 2013 05:58 Pinith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:55 Fusilero wrote:
Spirit visage is the defensive item for doublelift :O


The new Banshees passive hp regen is good against poke from Ziggs/Ezreal, and the shield stops what little engage Coast has.

Plus Vayne's broken with BotRK so he has enough damage anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 14 2013 20:59 GMT
#196
On August 15 2013 05:58 Pinith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:55 Fusilero wrote:
Spirit visage is the defensive item for doublelift :O


The new Banshees passive hp regen is good against poke from Ziggs/Ezreal, and the shield stops what little engage Coast has.


Spirit Caw is OP as fck.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
August 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#197
Vayne has Crit now, pleased?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
August 14 2013 21:00 GMT
#198
Zion is at 120 cs :|
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 14 2013 21:01 GMT
#199
On August 15 2013 05:56 Fwmeh wrote:
I can sorta see what cst wanted, against a team with so much dive, but I still didn't like it, and they have not converted me. I just don't see them having the damage required against the divers, even if they can disengage, Zac will just jump in again later, as he as done to great effect.

Too my great sadness, it seems evil (CLG) will prevail yet again.


Against a team that will dive, you generally want counter-initiates/stuns. Possibly their mid and jungle are lacking for overall counter fighting. Mid could have been Gragas(unlikely), Lissandra, or Orianna. Jungle could have been Lee Sin, Jarvan IV, or possibly Eve(unlikely)
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 14 2013 21:01 GMT
#200
just woke up, wtf is wrong with zions cs? ~130 in a 40min game?
<3 Kim Taeyeon
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