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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2013 20:15 GMT
#861
On August 16 2013 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Boots of swiftness? Urm...

Counters Wall of Pain

What do you think of rabaddons first on TF I always thought lich bane is the best first item on tF.
Glorious SEA doto
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 20:16:55
August 15 2013 20:16 GMT
#862
On August 16 2013 05:09 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:59 Slusher wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Karthus is as good, if not better, than Twisted Fate. So I find it amusing/sad that TF is the target of so much patching but Karthus has been relatively untouched for so long.

There's so few champs that scale as well as Karthus.

On August 16 2013 04:44 Redox wrote:
Lol shots fired at Edward? :D

Seems like bad blood.


Karthus just got nerfed in the last patch.

Yeah, I know but .05 nerf to AP ratio of Defile is hardly a nerf compared to everything TF has gone through.

You must be kidding do you want me to give you the list of all nerfs karthus has taken since S2 ? :D And by the way yes karthus scales better than tf but he has less global presence early, tf can snowball bot much better, also he his less safe in lane.

yet hes still best late game ap mid and highly contested at every region, the amount of aoe dmg, is ridiculous, scarra said the only thing which may balance karthus is making his ult not castable after death
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22451 Posts
August 15 2013 20:17 GMT
#863
On August 16 2013 05:15 ketchup wrote:
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On August 16 2013 05:13 Redox wrote:
Teleport on Karthus so awkward. Do I ult or do I teleport to help out that lane?


He could realistically do both if they had better communication.


Karthus did ult. Jarvan come along to cancel it and then he teleported top.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 15 2013 20:17 GMT
#864
On August 16 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Boots of swiftness? Urm...

Counters Wall of Pain

What do you think of rabaddons first on TF I always thought lich bane is the best first item on tF.

I prefer sheen into deathcap into lichbane. Lichbane first was better in s2 imo, when there was ms with it.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#865
On August 16 2013 05:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:15 ketchup wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:13 Redox wrote:
Teleport on Karthus so awkward. Do I ult or do I teleport to help out that lane?


He could realistically do both if they had better communication.


Karthus did ult. Jarvan come along to cancel it and then he teleported top.


That explains a lot
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 15 2013 20:18 GMT
#866
On August 16 2013 05:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:15 ketchup wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:13 Redox wrote:
Teleport on Karthus so awkward. Do I ult or do I teleport to help out that lane?


He could realistically do both if they had better communication.


Karthus did ult. Jarvan come along to cancel it and then he teleported top.

Yeah the problem with doing it in that order was just (aside from ult cancel) that it takes so long to teleport in.
Off-season = best season
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2013 20:19 GMT
#867
On August 16 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Boots of swiftness? Urm...

Counters Wall of Pain

What do you think of rabaddons first on TF I always thought lich bane is the best first item on tF.

Speaks of nukeduke/LD confidence in their position in the game. nukeduck is highly adaptive. On paper, Lich Bane is the best buy for TF.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#868
Somewhere Reginald feels his ears burning.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#869
Lich Bane done by 20 minutes. But Deathcap finished first. hue

go Pups
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
August 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#870
On August 16 2013 05:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:15 Fusilero wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:09 Fusilero wrote:
Boots of swiftness? Urm...

Counters Wall of Pain

What do you think of rabaddons first on TF I always thought lich bane is the best first item on tF.

I prefer sheen into deathcap into lichbane. Lichbane first was better in s2 imo, when there was ms with it.


There's still ms on it. The mr is gone though.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
August 15 2013 20:21 GMT
#871
I love Dexter's play of sitting in the enemy jungle and controlling them incredibly well, therefore providing safety for all his lanes. He takes advantage of the turret kills so well.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2013 20:22 GMT
#872
On August 16 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote:
I love Dexter's play of sitting in the enemy jungle and controlling them incredibly well, therefore providing safety for all his lanes. He takes advantage of the turret kills so well.

I really can't say there's a weak link for LD atm. If I had to, perhaps Mithy. But he brings a lot of of intangibles to the team
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2013 20:22 GMT
#873
On August 16 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote:
I love Dexter's play of sitting in the enemy jungle and controlling them incredibly well, therefore providing safety for all his lanes. He takes advantage of the turret kills so well.

I remember how awful he was on dragonborns and meh on mouz he's really come a long way since joining lemonpups. Imo the most improved player of this split.
Glorious SEA doto
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
August 15 2013 20:24 GMT
#874
It would seem that NiP is not a contender unless Bjergsen is in top form, and he has not been for a while. No one else will carry.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 15 2013 20:27 GMT
#875
On August 16 2013 05:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote:
I love Dexter's play of sitting in the enemy jungle and controlling them incredibly well, therefore providing safety for all his lanes. He takes advantage of the turret kills so well.

I really can't say there's a weak link for LD atm. If I had to, perhaps Mithy. But he brings a lot of of intangibles to the team

Basically they got really good since Mithy joined. I assume he is the brain of the team.
Overall they have learned a lot since the start of the season regarding strategy.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 15 2013 20:28 GMT
#876
That was a pretty funny fight. Vlad basically 1v4s while his team dies to karthus.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 15 2013 20:28 GMT
#877
On August 16 2013 05:27 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:22 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:21 Don_Julio wrote:
I love Dexter's play of sitting in the enemy jungle and controlling them incredibly well, therefore providing safety for all his lanes. He takes advantage of the turret kills so well.

I really can't say there's a weak link for LD atm. If I had to, perhaps Mithy. But he brings a lot of of intangibles to the team

Basically they got really good since Mithy joined. I assume he is the brain of the team.
Overall they have learned a lot since the start of the season regarding strategy.

He's the shotcaller for the team. It shows since he joined.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
August 15 2013 20:30 GMT
#878
TF/Vlad, the immortals.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2013 20:30 GMT
#879
Zorozero and nukeduck just drycleaned NiP. Man what happened to these two they've gone from nobodies to top tier how much lemonpups has improved across the board is staggering.
Glorious SEA doto
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
August 15 2013 20:31 GMT
#880
On August 16 2013 05:16 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 05:09 RouaF wrote:
On August 16 2013 05:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:59 Slusher wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
Karthus is as good, if not better, than Twisted Fate. So I find it amusing/sad that TF is the target of so much patching but Karthus has been relatively untouched for so long.

There's so few champs that scale as well as Karthus.

On August 16 2013 04:44 Redox wrote:
Lol shots fired at Edward? :D

Seems like bad blood.


Karthus just got nerfed in the last patch.

Yeah, I know but .05 nerf to AP ratio of Defile is hardly a nerf compared to everything TF has gone through.

You must be kidding do you want me to give you the list of all nerfs karthus has taken since S2 ? :D And by the way yes karthus scales better than tf but he has less global presence early, tf can snowball bot much better, also he his less safe in lane.

yet hes still best late game ap mid and highly contested at every region, the amount of aoe dmg, is ridiculous, scarra said the only thing which may balance karthus is making his ult not castable after death

Yeah and scarra, like a lot of pros, says a lot of bullcrap. Thank god those people are not the one balancing the game. Karthus would be completely useless if he couldn't ult while dead. Imo he's fine at the moment, he has a lot of hard counters in lane and champs who can roam and have a way bigger impact on other lanes than his ult.
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