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FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
August 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#5121
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:00:24
August 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#5122
Shy = World Class
CT = No
Rapidstar/GBM = No
Space = Good
Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz)

Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups.

Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 28 2013 11:00 GMT
#5123
On August 28 2013 19:57 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Holy... just woke up and what has OGN done to there free stream quality? It was never amazing, but it doesnt have to be for a free stream, but now its such bad quality i cant even see which champion is which. there just giant colored pixels Oo

For no reason twitch changed their stream quality options and medium isn't as good a 480p so OGN have pretty much been screwed by twitch.


Twitch has stated Medium is 360p+
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 28 2013 11:01 GMT
#5124
On August 28 2013 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Shy = World Class
CT = No
Rapidstar/GBM = No
Space = Good
Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz)

Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups.

Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue.

I'd say for ozone and KTB all five are world class. Still not entirely sold on impact though.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 28 2013 11:04 GMT
#5125
On August 28 2013 19:59 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Holy... just woke up and what has OGN done to there free stream quality? It was never amazing, but it doesnt have to be for a free stream, but now its such bad quality i cant even see which champion is which. there just giant colored pixels Oo


It's not OGN. That's Twitch's new low, medium, high function. Broadcasters don't have a choice about that.

That was, to put it lightly, a fairly one sided game.


Classic corporate decision making really.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 28 2013 11:05 GMT
#5126
i cant watch 720p due to bandwidth, now i can only watch 360 on twitch.
Which means i rather dont watch streams at all.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 28 2013 11:06 GMT
#5127
On August 28 2013 20:05 LaNague wrote:
i cant watch 720p due to bandwidth, now i can only watch 360 on twitch.
Which means i rather dont watch streams at all.


Same boat man. Used to always use 480p and maybe once in a blue moon the stars would aling and 720p would work. Don't get why I haven't read any huge shitstorm threads/news/posts about this.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:08:40
August 28 2013 11:08 GMT
#5128
On August 28 2013 20:06 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 20:05 LaNague wrote:
i cant watch 720p due to bandwidth, now i can only watch 360 on twitch.
Which means i rather dont watch streams at all.


Same boat man. Used to always use 480p and maybe once in a blue moon the stars would aling and 720p would work. Don't get why I haven't read any huge shitstorm threads/news/posts about this.


OGN is like the first major event where people have been forced onto "medium" since the switch to this new style of quality. The outcry is starting
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 28 2013 11:08 GMT
#5129
Phew CJ avoids the CJ vs Zed match up.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:11:44
August 28 2013 11:11 GMT
#5130
I was always watching things on 720, but the problem with the new 720 (high) is that it lags for whatever reason. And not only for me. 480p was indeed the best option if you wanted to save bandwidth and still be able to read everything. Although I have enough bandwidth I used 480 when watching multiple streams (up to 5) to not stress out the PC. Now its completely gone.

So now I went from 720 to 360 on all my streams although I have more than enough bandwidth. Great job Twitch.
Off-season = best season
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 28 2013 11:11 GMT
#5131
MadLife needs to bring Zyra back into his champ pool and add Fiddle. His support-pool atm seems limited because teams have started realizing the way to defeat Frost is to ban him out.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
August 28 2013 11:11 GMT
#5132
On August 28 2013 19:59 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Holy... just woke up and what has OGN done to there free stream quality? It was never amazing, but it doesnt have to be for a free stream, but now its such bad quality i cant even see which champion is which. there just giant colored pixels Oo


It's not OGN. That's Twitch's new low, medium, high function. Broadcasters don't have a choice about that.

That was, to put it lightly, a fairly one sided game.

Pretty smart cost cutting implementation for twitch, but it sucks for viewers.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
August 28 2013 11:13 GMT
#5133
On August 28 2013 19:59 Fionn wrote:
Shy = World Class
CT = No
Rapidstar/GBM = No
Space = Good
Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz)

Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups.

Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue.


I feel like having a competent mid-lane, and a good jungler to go with that plays the biggest factor in creating a basic pillar for a competitive team. It is the reason why having a solid line-up in those two positions influence the picks and bans to such a great degree. CJ Entus Frost has just as many world-class players as other top level teams in Korea, but the sad fact is that their most important positions are filled by players who are simply not upto par. It is just tragic to a certain degree that other teams can afford to waste bans shutting out MadLife, while CJ Entus Frost struggles to ban key champions due to their nature of their team.
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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 28 2013 11:13 GMT
#5134
Seems like MVP Ozone is gonna go for a line swap with these picks. Put Shen in a 1v2, put their duo 2v1 vs Zed, and put Vladi vs Zac? Or how good is Vladi vs Zed? I guess he can pool the Death Mark, but I've never seen this match-up
pixelate
Profile Joined August 2013
United States180 Posts
August 28 2013 11:15 GMT
#5135
On August 28 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote:
Seems like MVP Ozone is gonna go for a line swap with these picks. Put Shen in a 1v2, put their duo 2v1 vs Zed, and put Vladi vs Zac? Or how good is Vladi vs Zed? I guess he can pool the Death Mark, but I've never seen this match-up

Vlad is very strong vs Zed, in fact CJ Blaze used this matchup to counter Dade in g3 of Spring finals (didn't work out due to Dade's roam picking up kills bot, but Flame did well in lane vs Zed with Vlad)
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 28 2013 11:15 GMT
#5136
On August 28 2013 20:11 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:59 FSKi wrote:
On August 28 2013 19:56 Gorsameth wrote:
Holy... just woke up and what has OGN done to there free stream quality? It was never amazing, but it doesnt have to be for a free stream, but now its such bad quality i cant even see which champion is which. there just giant colored pixels Oo


It's not OGN. That's Twitch's new low, medium, high function. Broadcasters don't have a choice about that.

That was, to put it lightly, a fairly one sided game.

Pretty smart cost cutting implementation for twitch, but it sucks for viewers.

Meh not like it needs a genius to figure out if you broadcast at lower quality you save bandwidth. They can do this shit because their competition has gone belly up. I have feared this would happen since the end of Own3d.tv.
Off-season = best season
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 28 2013 11:20 GMT
#5137
what was that. Why did cloudtempler engage when they were in a postional disadvantage. Seriously confusing.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 28 2013 11:20 GMT
#5138
Mata's rotations and map awareness so good, but MadLife says I can do that too albeit a bit late.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 28 2013 11:21 GMT
#5139
why was CT following elise all the time? shouldnt u try to get to 6 asap as mumu?
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 28 2013 11:23 GMT
#5140
On August 28 2013 20:21 Djin)ftw( wrote:
why was CT following elise all the time? shouldnt u try to get to 6 asap as mumu?


Wasn't he trying to gank top but kept running into elise so he tried to kill elise. Vlad was pushing so hard against Zac without a care in the world.
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