EPT[OGN] Hotsix The Champions Summer 2013 - Page 257
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
CT = No Rapidstar/GBM = No Space = Good Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz) Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups. Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:57 Fusilero wrote: For no reason twitch changed their stream quality options and medium isn't as good a 480p so OGN have pretty much been screwed by twitch. Twitch has stated Medium is 360p+ | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:59 Fionn wrote: Shy = World Class CT = No Rapidstar/GBM = No Space = Good Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz) Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups. Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue. I'd say for ozone and KTB all five are world class. Still not entirely sold on impact though. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:59 FSKi wrote: It's not OGN. That's Twitch's new low, medium, high function. Broadcasters don't have a choice about that. That was, to put it lightly, a fairly one sided game. Classic corporate decision making really. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Which means i rather dont watch streams at all. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:05 LaNague wrote: i cant watch 720p due to bandwidth, now i can only watch 360 on twitch. Which means i rather dont watch streams at all. Same boat man. Used to always use 480p and maybe once in a blue moon the stars would aling and 720p would work. Don't get why I haven't read any huge shitstorm threads/news/posts about this. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:06 Numy wrote: Same boat man. Used to always use 480p and maybe once in a blue moon the stars would aling and 720p would work. Don't get why I haven't read any huge shitstorm threads/news/posts about this. OGN is like the first major event where people have been forced onto "medium" since the switch to this new style of quality. The outcry is starting | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
So now I went from 720 to 360 on all my streams although I have more than enough bandwidth. Great job Twitch. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:59 FSKi wrote: It's not OGN. That's Twitch's new low, medium, high function. Broadcasters don't have a choice about that. That was, to put it lightly, a fairly one sided game. Pretty smart cost cutting implementation for twitch, but it sucks for viewers. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On August 28 2013 19:59 Fionn wrote: Shy = World Class CT = No Rapidstar/GBM = No Space = Good Madlife = World Class (but can't carry/make plays when not on Thresh/Blitz) Compare that to Ozone that arguably have four world class players, SKT who have probably three or four, the Bullets who have three or four, and even Blaze who have two world class carries in Ambition and Flame, I dunno how Frost can beat these line-ups. Sword has already switched out Ssong for their Colossal Titan Mid Laner who came in and helped win them NLB, so I feel like they need to either stick by GBM and watch his progression, or they need to swim in solo queue. I feel like having a competent mid-lane, and a good jungler to go with that plays the biggest factor in creating a basic pillar for a competitive team. It is the reason why having a solid line-up in those two positions influence the picks and bans to such a great degree. CJ Entus Frost has just as many world-class players as other top level teams in Korea, but the sad fact is that their most important positions are filled by players who are simply not upto par. It is just tragic to a certain degree that other teams can afford to waste bans shutting out MadLife, while CJ Entus Frost struggles to ban key champions due to their nature of their team. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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pixelate
United States180 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:13 bokchoi wrote: Seems like MVP Ozone is gonna go for a line swap with these picks. Put Shen in a 1v2, put their duo 2v1 vs Zed, and put Vladi vs Zac? Or how good is Vladi vs Zed? I guess he can pool the Death Mark, but I've never seen this match-up Vlad is very strong vs Zed, in fact CJ Blaze used this matchup to counter Dade in g3 of Spring finals (didn't work out due to Dade's roam picking up kills bot, but Flame did well in lane vs Zed with Vlad) | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:11 nojitosunrise wrote: Pretty smart cost cutting implementation for twitch, but it sucks for viewers. Meh not like it needs a genius to figure out if you broadcast at lower quality you save bandwidth. They can do this shit because their competition has gone belly up. I have feared this would happen since the end of Own3d.tv. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 28 2013 20:21 Djin)ftw( wrote: why was CT following elise all the time? shouldnt u try to get to 6 asap as mumu? Wasn't he trying to gank top but kept running into elise so he tried to kill elise. Vlad was pushing so hard against Zac without a care in the world. | ||
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