EPTOn August 21 2013 21:45 miicah wrote:
Why would you just not ban Zac?
Why would you just not ban Zac?
Arrogance, inability to adjust gameplan, etc.
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bokchoi
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Arrogance, inability to adjust gameplan, etc. | ||
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On August 21 2013 21:45 Djin)ftw( wrote: SKT vs KT in the finals. sounds oddly familiar, I dont know why ![[image loading]](http://isloco.com/attach/121/383627.jpg) never forget | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:38 Fionn wrote: Poll: What OP champion was better? Visage Zac (9) Muramana Jayce (8) 17 total votes Your vote: What OP champion was better? Better to watch: Jayce by far Better as in stronger: I'd probably say Zac | ||
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that is why CJ's picks (gragas vs zed with good lane control from rapidstar and a cait nami vs fid ez lane) in the 3rd game were imo the best, but cloudtemplar left shy out to the dogs toplane and he got dove twice relatively early with no consequence for KTB, giving insec the free lane. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:46 UmberBane wrote: Better to watch: Jayce by far Better as in stronger: I'd probably say Zac Definitely Muramana Jayce made exciting plays. Visage Zac is just fucking boring  | ||
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AsnSensation
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KasPra
Estonia983 Posts
Zac is OP but Insec Zac is just incredibly OP. I usually call him Insex but I might switch to Inzac | ||
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Redox
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bokchoi
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gg. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:52 Redox wrote: I dont think this was decided on champion picks. KT just was a level above Frost. I'd say the primary difference was between kakao/cloudtemplar and rapidstar/ryu imo. Kakao and insec pretty much dived shy at every chance and cloudtemplar never really punished him for it so insec was free to snowball and get big on 3.10 visage zac. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:39 Fionn wrote: They're easily the most OP Top Lane champions in 3.10. You're probably going to see Shen vs. Zac in Korea till they nerf Zac/Spirit Visage No no I know that. I'm just wondering why not pick Zac or ban it? | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:54 nyxnyxnyx wrote: No no I know that. I'm just wondering why not pick Zac or ban it? Because CJ teams don't prepare. | ||
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:47 AsnSensation wrote: Should have let 3.10 Elise open and ban Zac maaaaan Frost I believed, but honestly only Shy played good today. Props definitely need to be given to Shy imo. He really did the best he could, but there's nothing you can do to outpush a Zac as Shen, it's a matchup thing. AND Zac can interrupt shen's ult so easily, it's a very bad lane imo. He tried in game 3 to go for Sunfire first, but got immediately shut down by Kakao and friends. Insec played the lane as he should, of course, but the problem for Shy was more the pick than anything else. Lack of adaptation by Frost lost them the series by quite far. Rapidstar play on top of that... | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:47 bokchoi wrote: Definitely Muramana Jayce made exciting plays. Visage Zac is just fucking boring Visage + some random tank is boring but given the strength of visage right now why would you not play that kind of hero. Zac just happened to be have very high base values on his spells and sustained and a free revive, which are accentuated by the removal of bulwark and new visage making him pretty unstoppable | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:55 -Zoda- wrote: Props definitely need to be given to Shy imo. He really did the best he could, but there's nothing you can do to outpush a Zac as Shen, it's a matchup thing. AND Zac can interrupt shen's ult so easily, it's a very bad lane imo. He tried in game 3 to go for Sunfire first, but got immediately shut down by Kakao and friends. Insec played the lane as he should, of course, but the problem for Shy was more the pick than anything else. Lack of adaptation by Frost lost them the series by quite far. Rapidstar play on top of that... Thats why I said Vladimir instead of Shen :< | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 21 2013 21:50 Chexx wrote: Shy should have picked Vladimir instead of Zac. Same sustain SV incredible helpful too. What about the multiple AoE cc, non-cleansable initiation, 1550 jumps, %HP spammable AoE damage, on top of the broken sustain? | ||
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