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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 21 2013 21:52 GMT
#301
i dont think bork was the reason they lacked dps, ezreal didnt build his muramana which is huge misplay, tbh whole reason blue ez works is because he can spam his Q's with muramana active (not 100% sure about the math but thats like 250 extra dmg he didnt have ) insterad creaton decided to buy warmog as his last item and did literally no dmg
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
June 21 2013 21:54 GMT
#302
BoRK was the reason he lacked DPS because he chose it over muramana.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 21 2013 21:57 GMT
#303
yes but its not like bt instead of bork would change anything there
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
June 21 2013 22:01 GMT
#304
If he went BT into muramana instead of elder lizard into BoRK, it would have been way more effective. Have you seen Doublelift and Dontmashme play ezreal? Anyway I'm not going to continue this argument any further.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 21 2013 22:13 GMT
#305
bt or bork without muraman would have been pretty much the same
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#306
On June 22 2013 06:40 kongoline wrote:
you are forgetting bork also has 40% attk speed and active which is pretty crazy for skirmishes/duels
think about this 75 ad +3% ls vs 40% attk speed+ 5% current life as phys dmg + active, also thats assuming u have max stacks which is not always the case tbh i dont think its even close between this two when theres no crit, plus when you are facing 4k hp++ tank late game bork is pretty big



errr mate, Blue ezreal is all about spamming your Q and kiting with iceborn gauntlet.

Neither of those attributes get anything from bork. Q scales on raw damage, attack speed might be nice, but the whole idea behind blue ez builds is that you dont have to stand still and auto.

It might be situationally better if the opposing team has health stacking tanks (someone did the math I think it was 3.4k where Bortk starts coming out ahead each shot?), but in this specific game it almost certainly was the wrong item from a theory standpoint.

Obviously Creaton builds his Ezreal this way, and usually he has much more success with it, it might simply have been an a bad day for him.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 22 2013 10:12 GMT
#307
On the schedule announced for today are 2 games with Lemondogs. So it seems like Tabzz made it to the event after all.
Off-season = best season
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 22 2013 10:35 GMT
#308
GTM vs. GG are playing right now in the EU LCS & CIS Regional Tournament.
Support your esport!
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 22 2013 10:38 GMT
#309
On June 22 2013 19:12 Redox wrote:
On the schedule announced for today are 2 games with Lemondogs. So it seems like Tabzz made it to the event after all.


Good news would hate LD to fall fictim to Riot's bad planning. + more games on my day off.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 22 2013 11:07 GMT
#310
Kassadin so freakin strong if he doesnt get shut down early. I hope we see him in LCS as well a few times.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 22 2013 11:11 GMT
#311
On June 22 2013 20:07 Redox wrote:
Kassadin so freakin strong if he doesnt get shut down early. I hope we see him in LCS as well a few times.


His laning/sieging is kind of weak though. I do hope we see him though just wonder how will they make it work.
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 22 2013 12:59 GMT
#312
nobody cares but:

SK < LD because Ocelotes slump
FNC > EG
LD < NiP
ATN < MYM cause nerves
Gambit > SK
Iblis
Profile Joined April 2010
904 Posts
June 22 2013 13:03 GMT
#313
As fabulous as yesterday.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 13:09:31
June 22 2013 13:05 GMT
#314
Yeey Tabzz actualy did make it nice nice. Though i think they had even less time to prepare then others.

nm SK should have this, with a guy coming in at 6am this morning LD's screwed.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 22 2013 13:06 GMT
#315
On June 22 2013 21:59 Don_Julio wrote:
nobody cares but:

SK < LD because Ocelotes slump
FNC > EG
LD < NiP
ATN < MYM cause nerves
Gambit > SK

Agree with all. SK vs LD might go the other way though, that one is pretty open.
Off-season = best season
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
June 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#316
On June 22 2013 22:06 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 21:59 Don_Julio wrote:
nobody cares but:

SK < LD because Ocelotes slump
FNC > EG
LD < NiP
ATN < MYM cause nerves
Gambit > SK

Agree with all. SK vs LD might go the other way though, that one is pretty open.


*highfive* - I was close to give it a "=" but not even CLG.EU in their glorious days managed to score a draw.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#317
On June 22 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:
Yeey Tabzz actualy did make it nice nice. Though i think they had even less time to prepare then others.

nm SK should have this, with a guy coming in at 6am this morning LD's screwed.

Noone is really prepared, I dont think this makes much of a difference. Although it is certainly not like it should be.
Off-season = best season
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
June 22 2013 13:13 GMT
#318
On June 22 2013 22:11 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 22:05 Lysanias wrote:
Yeey Tabzz actualy did make it nice nice. Though i think they had even less time to prepare then others.

nm SK should have this, with a guy coming in at 6am this morning LD's screwed.

Noone is really prepared, I dont think this makes much of a difference. Although it is certainly not like it should be.


I think it actualy greatly matters. Where others had atleast a day to adjust one player had to fly through the night with serieus lacking sleep having to play only hours after landing.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
June 22 2013 13:15 GMT
#319
that camera creeping closeup was kinda funny
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 22 2013 13:15 GMT
#320
And there is the Kassadin I asked for. :D
Off-season = best season
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