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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 16:52:49
June 21 2013 16:52 GMT
#281
Lol Alex lch <3. Best interview answer to the Orianna question.

On June 22 2013 01:51 Fusilero wrote:
Still not getting over how fabulous the Russian translator is.


Taric skin.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 21 2013 16:52 GMT
#282
On June 22 2013 01:50 Slusher wrote:
Don't know if the casters are hyping or they actually thought that was an epic/close game. once behind even a minimal amount with that bad of a team comp, that game was over for aTn.

Idk, I though it was fairly close. If FLord didn't whiff that Shockwave on Hec at Baron put they might have been able to turn the game in their favor.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 21 2013 16:54 GMT
#283
On June 22 2013 01:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 01:50 Slusher wrote:
Don't know if the casters are hyping or they actually thought that was an epic/close game. once behind even a minimal amount with that bad of a team comp, that game was over for aTn.

Idk, I though it was fairly close. If FLord didn't whiff that Shockwave on Hec at Baron put they might have been able to turn the game in their favor.

Idd, there were several team fights that were extremely close while shockwave did zero damage. This alone showed that Atn still had a chance.
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 21 2013 16:54 GMT
#284
Alex ich aka the one man PR team for gambit. As long as he's the face of the team they can get away with murder.
Glorious SEA doto
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 21 2013 16:55 GMT
#285
Genja is that guy who builds ad jungle fizz in soloq and somehow crushes.

Muramama volleys pretty nice, think he went BT over botrk for more volley dmg.
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
June 21 2013 16:58 GMT
#286
On June 22 2013 01:48 justiceknight wrote:
diamond's back made of diamond ok


the dive bottom (second to last teamfight) he crawled through ATN's aoe to ult and run/flash out again, he was incredibly useless there. the other fights he managed to dodge/bait out the aoe, those were a lot stronger.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
June 21 2013 18:10 GMT
#287
On June 22 2013 01:54 Fusilero wrote:
Alex ich aka the one man PR team for gambit. As long as he's the face of the team they can get away with murder.


You shouldn't have said that, the Russians are coming for you now! Run Fusi RUN
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
June 21 2013 18:31 GMT
#288
close game until ashe hit 6 items, then atn just melted because they had no choice but to focus arbiter lissandra. too bad there were so many poor ults from orianna and nami, gmb barely came out ahead in some of the later midgame fights
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 18:40:38
June 21 2013 18:39 GMT
#289
no question f lord whiffed his 3k elo shockwaves, but maybe it's also because Ara had bad 1 or max 2 men hecarim initiates which is the result if Gambit's sick splitting vs Aoe combs, there was never a chance to hit more than 2 ppl in those shockwaves and heca ults anyway.

empty shockwave after ball reset on yourself is bad though, no doubt.

also Diamond back to Bossmode with Xin, sometimes I wonder if he plays non fotm on purpose to keep his innovator reputation, only jungler he adopted after seeing others play it is Jarvan as far as I remember.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 18:48:01
June 21 2013 18:44 GMT
#290
Well good jungler vs bad jungler, guess this is how it goes. Could have still won if ForellenLord didn't have his fail shoes on.

This also shows that blue ez really cannot carry and is only good if your team is winning.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
June 21 2013 19:14 GMT
#291
DiamondBaws!!
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
June 21 2013 19:22 GMT
#292
Just watched ATN vs Gambit and I have to say it's as entertaining as it's hyped up to be. Gambit always puts on a show when Alex and Diamond are on their game. It's also funny how Genja was so successful with the ARAM Ashe build. People already mentioned FLord not having a great game. I think Creaton underperformed as well. His teamfight positioning was always off, and BoRK is terrible for Blue Build Ez.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9194 Posts
June 21 2013 20:05 GMT
#293
On June 22 2013 04:22 caelym wrote:
Just watched ATN vs Gambit and I have to say it's as entertaining as it's hyped up to be. Gambit always puts on a show when Alex and Diamond are on their game. It's also funny how Genja was so successful with the ARAM Ashe build. People already mentioned FLord not having a great game. I think Creaton underperformed as well. His teamfight positioning was always off, and BoRK is terrible for Blue Build Ez.

He always builds Ez like that and if there's someone I trust when it comes to Ez, it's him.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:17:54
June 21 2013 20:29 GMT
#294
On June 22 2013 05:05 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 04:22 caelym wrote:
Just watched ATN vs Gambit and I have to say it's as entertaining as it's hyped up to be. Gambit always puts on a show when Alex and Diamond are on their game. It's also funny how Genja was so successful with the ARAM Ashe build. People already mentioned FLord not having a great game. I think Creaton underperformed as well. His teamfight positioning was always off, and BoRK is terrible for Blue Build Ez.

He always builds Ez like that and if there's someone I trust when it comes to Ez, it's him.

Maybe it's difference in style and preference, but NA players I've talked to say BoRK is bad on blue Ez (BT into manamune or regular blue build being the better option).
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:09:06
June 21 2013 21:00 GMT
#295
On June 22 2013 05:29 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2013 05:05 Dan HH wrote:
On June 22 2013 04:22 caelym wrote:
Just watched ATN vs Gambit and I have to say it's as entertaining as it's hyped up to be. Gambit always puts on a show when Alex and Diamond are on their game. It's also funny how Genja was so successful with the ARAM Ashe build. People already mentioned FLord not having a great game. I think Creaton underperformed as well. His teamfight positioning was always off, and BoRK is terrible for Blue Build Ez.

He always builds Ez like that and if there's someone I trust when it comes to Ez, it's him.

Maybe it's difference in style and preference, but NA players I've talked to say BoRK is bad on Ez (BT or regular blue build being the better option).

the only reason u could ever consider bt better than bork is because of critical hits, theres literally no late game scenario where bt is better than bork on blue ezreal
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 21 2013 21:31 GMT
#296
ok i watched gmb vs atn and the reason atn lost is because creaton never build muramana he never even had a tear, they just simply had not enough dps without it
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 21 2013 21:32 GMT
#297
Wouldn't BT be stronger against squishies or once people drop to low HP levels? A lot of those fights were low-health clean-ups, and the additional lifesteal + AD from BT would have certainly helped since BotRK is %currentHP. Also gives more damage to his ult, Genja probably didn't even lose 200 HP when hit by it and it was rather saddening to see considering how Alternate badly needed burst to go with their initiation.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 21:43:36
June 21 2013 21:40 GMT
#298
you are forgetting bork also has 40% attk speed and active which is pretty crazy for skirmishes/duels
think about this 75 ad +3% ls vs 40% attk speed+ 5% current life as phys dmg + active, also thats assuming u have max stacks which is not always the case tbh i dont think its even close between this two when theres no crit, plus when you are facing 4k hp++ tank late game bork is pretty big
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 21 2013 21:45 GMT
#299
Yeah but I was talking about this particular game, where there weren't really any tanks on Gambit's side, except for Xin of course, and maybe that stupid Elise (since she builds kinda tanky), but apart from that they wanted to burst down Lissandra and deal with Ashe, in which cases having the raw burst from BT seemed more important than the dps/active from BotRK (when it comes to survivability from the active, they had Shen, Orianna, Hecarim to defend... well, on paper).
All in all it was a bad draft anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
June 21 2013 21:52 GMT
#300
BoRK may be good as situational 5th/6th item on blue Ez, but trying to fit it into the core build is really bad. BoRK after elder lizard was definitely the wrong choice for this game.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
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