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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:16 KissBlade wrote: Diamond did take all of Alex's farm in lane. Like everytime they all in'd Jayce, Alex would have to back and there'd be a full wave for Diamond to eat up. On the other hand when Jayce was killed I doubt he got more farm. Alex got a lot of jungle help and still fell far behind. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:11 WhiteDog wrote: It is not insec that made OGN win teamfights, but Jayce and madlife giving his ass everytime. Insec used his trick kick (that is amazing) when OGN was already coming back. I just wanted to tickle korean's fans a little tho. I actually prefer Diamondprox as a jungler too. Like you said inSec's contribution to victory was adequate, no more, no less, Ambition was the best player in this game by quite a margin. Diamondprox did better than inSec, but he didn't really amaze me this game either. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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LeaD
Canada464 Posts
Am I the only one that saw Madlife "miss" wards and then think when they did Baron that he did it purposely? That way he'd know where EU had vision, EU thinks Baron was safe and Korea could take it without having a problem. This is a guy most known for his vision control, I don't see him missing those wards with an Oracles. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:15 WhiteDog wrote: Yeah, Kennen and blitz were bad pick to be fair. If EU had managed to layer those Ults properly it could have been a very different game. The problem is they didn't. First Dragon fight, sOAZ burns Equaliser on Alistair ASAP which doesn't kill him, and now they're down an Ult while the KR team all proceeds to funnel into Dragon area. It's all downhill from there as the remaining Ults don't get chained either. Second Dragon fight, they think they've caught Madlife again, but he just Headbutt-Pulvs right into them and KR engages onto them. EU tries to panic use spells but this means Kennen just gets knocked away by Lee Sin and everyone calmly walks off Equaliser. Don't think Varus even used his Ult. And again all downhill from here. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:17 Letmelose wrote: I actually prefer Diamondprox as a jungler too. Like you said inSec's contribution to victory was adequate, no more, no less, Ambition was the best player in this game by quite a margin. Diamondprox did better than inSec, but he didn't really amaze me this game either. Insec was spot on in teamfights, he did much better than diamond when it mattered in 5v5s | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:17 Redox wrote: On the other hand when Jayce was killed I doubt he got more farm. Alex got a lot of jungle help and still fell far behind. Alex did not get more farm. Ambition took blue and wraith almost all the time while Alex did not. | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
Let's see which champs EU picks up now. Also Godlife, zoning everyone, always, as support. | ||
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ChEDo
Canada310 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:18 KissBlade wrote: Alex did not get more farm. Ambition took blue and wraith almost all the time while Alex did not. That is more to do with the champion than any fault of Alex. Jayce can clear wraiths quickly and efficiently unlike kennen. | ||
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WhistlerWCT
14 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:16 Heouf wrote: Diamond beast at the start and in the teamfight useless like the rest of EU We got you are hating on EU, now move on. | ||
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:18 LeaD wrote: I love how EU fans were telling everyone how Edward compares to Madlife and I just saw him get completely dominated support wise and Madlife was an absolute monster in those fights. His control/map presence and initiates were just ridiculous, and Edward was downright awful on Blitz. Am I the only one that saw Madlife "miss" wards and then think when they did Baron that he did it purposely? That way he'd know where EU had vision, EU thinks Baron was safe and Korea could take it without having a problem. This is a guy most known for his vision control, I don't see him missing those wards with an Oracles. That's the only reason I can't root for any EU teams (despite me liking individual players). Their fanboys put them on such a ridiculous pedestal. On May 24 2013 20:22 Amui wrote: That is more to do with the champion than any fault of Alex. Jayce can clear wraiths quickly and efficiently unlike kennen. That was my point. I did not think Alex was innately outplayed as much as on a champ that is not typically his style. It was a comp and gameplan that they clearly planned out to try to throw OGN off it's game. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9241 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
1. alex losing out on cs for no good reason 2. opting for a (successful) gank on Shy and losing out on dragon as a result 3. hooking alistar. really? 4. yellowpete. meh KR problems: 1. PraY missing out on CS at the start, though it's forgivable considering the expense edward went through with pinks to deny vision / threaten stealth eve ganks 2. PraY missing lots of Q's other than that everyone played really well. i'd like to highlight madlife's subtle but significant contribution in peeling as well as making himself available as an early initial target during teamfights to soak damage. props go to inSec for great initiations / kennen kickaways as well as jayce with mad CS. also Shy for opening himself up to a gank so that his team could nab a dragon | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:18 LeaD wrote: I love how EU fans were telling everyone how Edward compares to Madlife and I just saw him get completely dominated support wise and Madlife was an absolute monster in those fights. His control/map presence and initiates were just ridiculous, and Edward was downright awful on Blitz. Am I the only one that saw Madlife "miss" wards and then think when they did Baron that he did it purposely? That way he'd know where EU had vision, EU thinks Baron was safe and Korea could take it without having a problem. This is a guy most known for his vision control, I don't see him missing those wards with an Oracles. Here is the thing : if you land those hook with blitz, then he is a god, but if you don't, then you are the fucking worst support in the game. On May 24 2013 20:22 KissBlade wrote: That's the only reason I can't root for any EU teams (despite me liking individual players). Their fanboys put them on such a ridiculous pedestal. Is it a joke ? It's KR fans that put their players on a pedestal... Man THEY CALL MADLIFE GOD. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:18 BackSideAttack wrote: Insec was spot on in teamfights, he did much better than diamond when it mattered in 5v5s Yeah we didn't really see him do anything during laning. but he was a monster in teamfights -.. amazing execution | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Yeah that guy.. useless blind hate posts one after another | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:22 Amui wrote: That is more to do with the champion than any fault of Alex. Jayce can clear wraiths quickly and efficiently unlike kennen. Jayce was ahead of Kennen before first blood, Kennen never caught up. | ||
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BackSideAttack
1103 Posts
Kind of hard to move on when everyone is hyping how Diamond is so much better than Insec based on his early game. Too bad there's more than 1 phase in the game and Diamond failed to deliver in the latter portions whereas insec did not. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On May 24 2013 20:23 Dan HH wrote: lol these discussions are pretty heated considering that the favorites won all the matches played so far. Imagine what crapfest NA vs EU will spawn on message boards. During NA vs EU I'm just gonna open a picture of two kittens hugging and imagine that it's the state of the LR then. | ||
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