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SoulTakerz
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada353 Posts
May 24 2013 09:37 GMT
#1541
omg reach is the korean coach?
holy shit!!!!
Lee Jae fucking Dong Bitches
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 24 2013 09:37 GMT
#1542
NA could have won if SV didnt miss his smite and/or take all the kills from Urgot.
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
May 24 2013 09:38 GMT
#1543
That Baron play was ridiculous on so many levels. First off they KNEW if they chased Dyrus bot that NA would force Baron, and that NA didn't have the damage to really just push to kill it before anyone had a chance to respond. They had to have called that play ahead of time to force the situation and then try for that play, the co-ordination/timing is ridiculous.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
May 24 2013 09:38 GMT
#1544
On May 24 2013 18:35 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1eylo1/game_breaking_zed_bug_in_game_1_allstar_china_vs/

Didn't really make a difference but it's something that shouldn't be in the tournament client.

reddit looking for excuses already, oh the glory, best part about na losing.
Chun-li since ST
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
May 24 2013 09:38 GMT
#1545
On May 24 2013 18:37 Dusty wrote:
NA could have won if SV didnt miss his smite and/or take all the kills from Urgot.


Or maybe just don't let the ad carry without real tank items initiate under tower versus a baroned up team. Game was still winable after the smitefail.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
May 24 2013 09:38 GMT
#1546
On May 24 2013 18:33 jliu wrote:
NA got outclassed in the end, but I hope it puts a stop to the trash talk against NA. I think most of the mistakes were just poor decision making - I didn't see a huge mechanical skill gap that people talk about. Don't regret getting up at 3am before work to watch...yet TT.


More or less. Game 1 was lost due to basically being completely outpicked, and then having the lane swap predicted and matched which meant there weren't really any chance of the lanes salvaging an advantage by themselves.

Game 2 was a much more even draft, and several...very questionable calls (mostly the towerdive after the baron steal) lead to the game to reverse snowball.

On May 24 2013 18:32 UnKooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:21 Disengaged wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:17 ChaosArcher wrote:
Na is officialy the worst region in every global esport...

Loser's bracket.

In all honesty, I'd give them good odds against EU (going to bet on KR here), and CN are the heavy favorites to take the tourney entirely.


Nah, korea are the heavy favorites. Doesn't matter if the china team is on there home turf I highly doubt they have more experience and skill then the korean team

I follow the korean scene pretty heavily and I really have to disagree with you here. I would say the China is the team to beat, and the korean team isn't more skilled or experienced than the Chinese team. It was reported that China had been boot camping even before NA started and I know for a fact that the Korean team probably didnt even bootcamp or had the least amount of practice because of OGN Spring, the last game was CJ Frost vs Najin sword which has 3 of the allstar players.

Really? I thought CN had less time to bootcamp then NA. If that's the case, NA can definitely hold its head high (I now def expect CN to win this).

But it also depends on how the EU/KR match unfolds. My scanner needs to determine their power levels.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
May 24 2013 09:38 GMT
#1547
I really shouldn't stay up for this.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
dogmatix
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia339 Posts
May 24 2013 09:39 GMT
#1548
watching the replay looked like doublelift got the suppress on nasus like 0.1 seconds too late to stop the smite
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 24 2013 09:39 GMT
#1549
On May 24 2013 18:36 Lmui wrote:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Crowd_control#Stun

You can smite through everything but suppress.

So the explanation is.
1. SV is already a very bad smiter as we knew already.
2.Under the nerves that Sona flash in ult all of them he panicked
3. SV doesn't even know you can still Smite while dancing.

Terran
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 24 2013 09:39 GMT
#1550
On May 24 2013 18:36 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:33 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:27 ketchup wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:22 Navi wrote:
honestly any team can win any game here. none of the teams are solid enough that you can give them an A for stability and security and experience, and kr is especially lacking in the last category (whether they can make up for it in star power and talent, we'll see).

i wouldn't be surprised at a 2-1 eu win at this point. but anything goes


The problem here is that EU has mentioned that they have no had much practice time together. See this:

Q: There was some trouble getting sOAZ into the country. Will your lack of training have influence on your upcoming matches?

sOAZ: Of course, as we've missed four days of practice. It's worse for us and better for the other teams, but we'll talk more today and see what we can do against the Koreans.

How did EU bootcamp? Was it just online like Gambit usually does?

If so, I'd imagine problems might crop up.


I believe they were going to boot camp after gathering in china, but they had visa issues. Source:

https://www.facebook.com/fnaticSOAZ/posts/559523654070659

There was a video out interviewing 2 of the 5 who were still in the fnatic house(I believe) around 2 days before their trip explaining a bit more, but I'm too lazy to find that right now.

Its not that difficult to get a visa for China as a EU citizen. Soaz (or his coach) must have fucked up. Pretty inexcusable for an event as important as this.
Off-season = best season
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 09:39 GMT
#1551
On May 24 2013 18:35 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1eylo1/game_breaking_zed_bug_in_game_1_allstar_china_vs/

Didn't really make a difference but it's something that shouldn't be in the tournament client.


I don't know if it was an actual bug or a visual bug. There have been A LOT of those in spectator mode recently if you keep up with all the tournament streams.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
May 24 2013 09:39 GMT
#1552
On May 24 2013 18:38 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:35 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1eylo1/game_breaking_zed_bug_in_game_1_allstar_china_vs/

Didn't really make a difference but it's something that shouldn't be in the tournament client.

reddit looking for excuses already, oh the glory, best part about na losing.

China rigged the client in order to favor their team, only reason why NA lost.
unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
May 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#1553
Does anyone know where to find the top lane 1v1 vod's? I didn't get to see any of it :S
김정우.... 이겼다!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#1554
If EU doesn't ban Jayce, they're going to get fucked.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
May 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#1555
LOL MADLIFE TALKING DOWN ON EU MORTALS
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 24 2013 09:40 GMT
#1556
Tbfn NA loses they get ridiculed. CN loses, they're never heard from again.
liftlift > tsm
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 09:44:47
May 24 2013 09:41 GMT
#1557
GGWP China. Picks may not have been optimal, but they weren't the main reason for the losses (China showed the power of game 1's comp against us in game 2). Decision making was extremely poor. Game 1, NA tried to be aggressive early game against a stronger earlier game team (that dragon fight pretty much sealed the deal) and I don't even want to talk about that recall. Game 2, NA tried to baron bait vs a smart team and then initiated a dive with doublelift (the main source of damage). We showed our potential the first half of game 2, but couldn't maintain that quality of play.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 09:42:11
May 24 2013 09:41 GMT
#1558
On May 24 2013 18:39 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:38 Artok wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:35 Lmui wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1eylo1/game_breaking_zed_bug_in_game_1_allstar_china_vs/

Didn't really make a difference but it's something that shouldn't be in the tournament client.

reddit looking for excuses already, oh the glory, best part about na losing.

China rigged the client in order to favor their team, only reason why NA lost.

therefore this doesnt prove anything, na is still super talented and best, same as tsm was in s2 if them koreans didnt cheeet.

On May 24 2013 18:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Tbfn NA loses they get ridiculed. CN loses, they're never heard from again.

NA lost because of china hacks!
Chun-li since ST
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 24 2013 09:42 GMT
#1559
On May 24 2013 18:40 unionbank wrote:
Does anyone know where to find the top lane 1v1 vod's? I didn't get to see any of it :S


I'm not sure what you are asking for here. Can you be more specific? If you mean these LPL vs NA matches, you can find them on youtube as you can rewind.
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1017 Posts
May 24 2013 09:42 GMT
#1560
On May 24 2013 18:39 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 18:36 ketchup wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:33 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:27 ketchup wrote:
On May 24 2013 18:22 Navi wrote:
honestly any team can win any game here. none of the teams are solid enough that you can give them an A for stability and security and experience, and kr is especially lacking in the last category (whether they can make up for it in star power and talent, we'll see).

i wouldn't be surprised at a 2-1 eu win at this point. but anything goes


The problem here is that EU has mentioned that they have no had much practice time together. See this:

Q: There was some trouble getting sOAZ into the country. Will your lack of training have influence on your upcoming matches?

sOAZ: Of course, as we've missed four days of practice. It's worse for us and better for the other teams, but we'll talk more today and see what we can do against the Koreans.

How did EU bootcamp? Was it just online like Gambit usually does?

If so, I'd imagine problems might crop up.


I believe they were going to boot camp after gathering in china, but they had visa issues. Source:

https://www.facebook.com/fnaticSOAZ/posts/559523654070659

There was a video out interviewing 2 of the 5 who were still in the fnatic house(I believe) around 2 days before their trip explaining a bit more, but I'm too lazy to find that right now.

Its not that difficult to get a visa for China as a EU citizen. Soaz (or his coach) must have fucked up. Pretty inexcusable for an event as important as this.


Compared to most countries it is much more of a hassle - e.g needs to be done a while in advance instead of just happening automatically at the airport. But yeah, you'd think they'd be on top of it...
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