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On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed
Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed).
It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower.
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Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/
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Cop should just play support Ashe just for the arrow. Lewl.
On April 19 2013 07:48 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed). It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower. ... Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/
TBF, that is Curses' comps goal, is to catch teams unguarded. They're just playing the comp correctly.
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On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills.
Late game Ashe damage is still really respectable, he won't completely fall off.
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On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills.
Just saying but they were losing against Marn, and we've seen some huge misplay in this game.
And Heartbeat is, for me, one of the best support in NA altho he isn't playing this role since a long time. His crescendos are always perfect.
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I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the minions, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.
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On April 19 2013 07:49 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills. Late game Ashe damage is still really respectable, he won't completely fall off.
Ashe late game is godly with arrow! But getting there is Ashe's problem. Seems like Cop is doing super good right now. Notice he has the most assist on the team? 
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cop (the arrows holy shit) and nyjacky playing so good.
mrn not playing bad but it feels like they don't have much experience vs ashe arrow?!
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I just realised that since Ecco went for Morello/Zhonya rather than Deathcap, Marn's waveclear's actually super weak. Crap, won't help with the siege.
On April 19 2013 07:48 wei2coolman wrote:Cop should just play support Ashe just for the arrow. Lewl. Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:48 Alaric wrote:On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed). It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower. ... Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/ TBF, that is Curses' comps goal, is to catch teams unguarded. They're just playing the comp correctly.
Yeah I don't blame Marn, I meant that everytime they aren't ready to fight immediatly they'll have non-optimal positioning and without Draven being free to auto their damage drops significantly.
Remember when Ahri was played as an assassin? Ecco's build isn't the most damage-oriented, though. And I don't get how he died this fight, he was full HP with Stand United on him, then he just walked to Curse without using any spell and ate a Shockwave. ôo
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On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.
They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.
They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.
HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.
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Marn is soooo bad at teamfight, omg i can't even watch this, soo bad
Shen ult on full health ahri lol?
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On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all. They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay. They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen. HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.
Who needs CS when you have ECA.
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On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all. They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay. They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen. HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.
The problem is that he lost the early game, so he should have minion priority, but they don't recognize this. It's really a big deal when each one does add up. Right now, Cop is stalled on his item build for a few minutes due to how they hand out their cs.
On April 19 2013 07:52 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all. They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay. They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen. HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES. Who needs CS when you have ECA.
ECA is still a huge risk when they do not land. Cop landing them doesn't have much to do with overall game strategy.
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I don't understand. Ecco catches nyjacky with charm and mrn focuses Volibear :/.
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On April 19 2013 07:52 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all. They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay. They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen. HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES. Who needs CS when you have ECA.
ECA ALL DAY, ERRY DAY.
Cop so beasty.
On April 19 2013 07:53 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all. They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay. They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen. HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES. The problem is that he lost the early game, so he should have minion priority, but they don't recognize this. It's really a big deal when each one does add up. Right now, Cop is stalled on his item build for a few minutes due to how they hand out their cs.
I disagree; Ashe offers tons of utility with just the Arrow, if you watch midgame, they pretty much left cop botlane to catchup, but just used arrow for midgame kills; and the earlier farmed nyjacky was doing the follow up damages.
It worked out really well.
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On April 19 2013 07:52 qanik wrote:
Marn is soooo bad at teamfight, omg i can't even watch this, soo bad
Shen ult on full health ahri lol?
Worst thing is Ahri still died. But I think Shen tried to escape rather than save somebody?
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I mean Voy and Jacky do pretty big damage right now. If they play this smart and end it soon it won't matter if Cop is a little bit behind. He's carrying with ECA not kills.
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Jeez, even Cop gets malph ulted, and still lands arrow on nientonsoh; what a fucking beast.
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Poll: Recommend MRN vs Crs Week 10?Yes (7) 44% No (6) 38% If you have time (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend MRN vs Crs Week 10? (Vote): Yes
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Nyjacky so sexy, sexy always win.
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