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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 18 2013 22:48 GMT
#721
On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed

Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed).

It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower.

...
Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:49:36
April 18 2013 22:48 GMT
#722
Cop should just play support Ashe just for the arrow. Lewl.
On April 19 2013 07:48 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed

Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed).

It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower.

...
Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/


TBF, that is Curses' comps goal, is to catch teams unguarded. They're just playing the comp correctly.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 18 2013 22:49 GMT
#723
On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills.

Late game Ashe damage is still really respectable, he won't completely fall off.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
April 18 2013 22:49 GMT
#724
On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills.

Just saying but they were losing against Marn, and we've seen some huge misplay in this game.

And Heartbeat is, for me, one of the best support in NA altho he isn't playing this role since a long time. His crescendos are always perfect.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:50:49
April 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#725
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the minions, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#726
On April 19 2013 07:49 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:46 Caphe wrote:
One problem with Ashe is you can't get kills in team fight. Every time I see Ashe in a pro-game, no matter how the match turns out. Ashe will most likely has more assist than her has kills.

Late game Ashe damage is still really respectable, he won't completely fall off.

Ashe late game is godly with arrow! But getting there is Ashe's problem. Seems like Cop is doing super good right now. Notice he has the most assist on the team?
Terran
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#727
cop (the arrows holy shit) and nyjacky playing so good.

mrn not playing bad but it feels like they don't have much experience vs ashe arrow?!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:53:57
April 18 2013 22:51 GMT
#728
I just realised that since Ecco went for Morello/Zhonya rather than Deathcap, Marn's waveclear's actually super weak. Crap, won't help with the siege.

On April 19 2013 07:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Cop should just play support Ashe just for the arrow. Lewl.
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:48 Alaric wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:46 Amethyst21 wrote:
and that fight is why Curse is the #1 team in NA - brilliant, even after the ashe arrow missed

Meh Marn had no positioning and they lacked Crescendo and Unstoppable Force in this fight, even with a missed Arrow Curse was miles ahead in terms of temfighting strength (Shockwave and Riven's ult were the only ones they needed anyway, and Riven's is super short even after nerf so they smashed).

It shows how low Ahri's damage is, though. If Draven can't get in the fight Marn's overall damage is low. And Malph's will only go lower.

...
Yeah, just watch that fight. Marn gets caught, boom, no damage because they can't have Draven freely hitting somebody. :/


TBF, that is Curses' comps goal, is to catch teams unguarded. They're just playing the comp correctly.

Yeah I don't blame Marn, I meant that everytime they aren't ready to fight immediatly they'll have non-optimal positioning and without Draven being free to auto their damage drops significantly.

Remember when Ahri was played as an assassin? Ecco's build isn't the most damage-oriented, though. And I don't get how he died this fight, he was full HP with Stand United on him, then he just walked to Curse without using any spell and ate a Shockwave. ôo
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 18 2013 22:51 GMT
#729
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.
liftlift > tsm
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:52:46
April 18 2013 22:52 GMT
#730
Marn is soooo bad at teamfight, omg i can't even watch this, soo bad

Shen ult on full health ahri lol?
Best Teemo World
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 18 2013 22:52 GMT
#731
On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.

Who needs CS when you have ECA.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:54:33
April 18 2013 22:53 GMT
#732
On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.


The problem is that he lost the early game, so he should have minion priority, but they don't recognize this. It's really a big deal when each one does add up. Right now, Cop is stalled on his item build for a few minutes due to how they hand out their cs.

On April 19 2013 07:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.

Who needs CS when you have ECA.


ECA is still a huge risk when they do not land. Cop landing them doesn't have much to do with overall game strategy.
Sagamantha
Profile Joined September 2011
United States339 Posts
April 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#733
I don't understand. Ecco catches nyjacky with charm and mrn focuses Volibear :/.
trueCOMEHfan [16:21] <Qbek> hey sagamama [16:21] <Qbek> you ain;t targe bad
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:55:33
April 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#734
On April 19 2013 07:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.

Who needs CS when you have ECA.

ECA ALL DAY, ERRY DAY.

Cop so beasty.

On April 19 2013 07:53 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 19 2013 07:50 ketchup wrote:
I really dislike how much cs they are stealing from Cop when anyone else is in lane with him. Earlier, Orianna took the CS, and even Elementz doesn't allow Cop to farm correctly. I don't understand this at all.

They aren't stealing that much from Cop; its not nearly as bad as EG's S2 gameplay.

They still allow cop to get solo lane farm after lane has fallen.

HOLY FUCK NYJACKY. HAVE MY BABIES. THAT DAMAGES.


The problem is that he lost the early game, so he should have minion priority, but they don't recognize this. It's really a big deal when each one does add up. Right now, Cop is stalled on his item build for a few minutes due to how they hand out their cs.


I disagree; Ashe offers tons of utility with just the Arrow, if you watch midgame, they pretty much left cop botlane to catchup, but just used arrow for midgame kills; and the earlier farmed nyjacky was doing the follow up damages.

It worked out really well.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 22:55:05
April 18 2013 22:54 GMT
#735
On April 19 2013 07:52 qanik wrote:
Marn is soooo bad at teamfight, omg i can't even watch this, soo bad

Shen ult on full health ahri lol?

Worst thing is Ahri still died. But I think Shen tried to escape rather than save somebody?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 18 2013 22:55 GMT
#736
I mean Voy and Jacky do pretty big damage right now. If they play this smart and end it soon it won't matter if Cop is a little bit behind. He's carrying with ECA not kills.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 18 2013 22:57 GMT
#737
Jeez, even Cop gets malph ulted, and still lands arrow on nientonsoh; what a fucking beast.
liftlift > tsm
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 18 2013 22:57 GMT
#738
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Your vote: Recommend MRN vs Crs Week 10?

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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 18 2013 22:57 GMT
#739
Nyjacky so sexy, sexy always win.
liftlift > tsm
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
April 18 2013 22:58 GMT
#740
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