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Yes, these games won't be OGN level. Watch how you express yourself when these players make poor plays.

~Neo 11.01.13 13:05PST
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 14 2013 18:53 GMT
#2881
On January 14 2013 17:34 Amui wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/L7M9L#1

somebody from reddit did the stats. Obviously very small sample size, and while it might not be the highest level of play, it's fairly high.

Olaf is the single champion that has enough games that his pretty absurd winrate might not be an outlier.
Taric, Ahri, Urgot(only played by heartbeat?), Khazix, kog and Jayce are fairly small sample size, but high winrates as well.

Lulu seems to be a bit weak, basically the opposite of Olaf(but idk if people just don't play her right or what, koreans seem to like lulu a lot).
Ori and kassadin also got a bit beat up, but again, small sample size.


I just want to say that I think the Olaf stats are misleading. I think he is strong, no doubt, but this highly overrates him and he could cycle down to more normal levels. First there is the assassin meta, which Olaf is strong against, and then there is the 2v1 risk which he is also strong against. Without those 2 things Olaf is not who he is during this tournament. 2v1 seems to be here to stay (poor Jax) but Khazix is going to be hit same with Lee Sin and probably armor pen/shred, and maybe Zed.
Freeeeeeedom
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 14 2013 20:23 GMT
#2882
what makes olaf a good competitive pick is league of CC. thats why he isnt nearly as good in solo q, dont get the CC stack like in competitive
I come in for the scraps
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
January 14 2013 20:44 GMT
#2883
On January 15 2013 05:23 VayneAuthority wrote:
what makes olaf a good competitive pick is league of CC. thats why he isnt nearly as good in solo q, dont get the CC stack like in competitive

Immunity to CC is only one part of the puzzle. Olaf perks include: role variability (can top and jungle), ability to beat almost anyone 1v1 reliably, completely shutting down squishy toplanes, 1v2'ing very successfully against all but the most pushing lanes, very safe laning phase in any case (fairly high defensive base stats, good sustain, high ability base damage, chain slow), not really reliant on Summoner Spells (we've seen almost any combination of Flash, Ghost, Teleport and Ignite on him last week), can focus on tanky items as his damage output strongly scales with HP and CDR
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:28:04
January 14 2013 21:04 GMT
#2884
lets not forget penetration changes from s3 made his ult passive even stronger
olaf was top tier in s2 together with irelia and jax (he could bully them in lane and now that they are weaker he shits on pretty much every melee), he is god tier top, jungler and on top of that excellent 1v2'er, also very good split pusher late game(similar to s2 rengar) thanks to his immunity to being caught
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 21:59:59
January 14 2013 21:55 GMT
#2885
No words

Except grats to ecco and heartbeattt
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#2886
I think the most sad thing about this for me is seeing Cloud 9 not advance. I didn't get to watch any of the qualifiers but Nientonsoh has some real skills at both AD and AP mid and I love me some WildTurtle. Kinda sucks because the way season 3 is structured nearly everyone who didn't make it into season 3 is probably done with league professionally. Like no point in trying when you have to compete against teams that are salaried to do nothing but practice. Maybe some of them will try for come backs in season 4 but that's a pretty huge uphill battle.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:10:16
January 14 2013 22:09 GMT
#2887
On January 15 2013 07:04 overt wrote:
I think the most sad thing about this for me is seeing Cloud 9 not advance. I didn't get to watch any of the qualifiers but Nientonsoh has some real skills at both AD and AP mid and I love me some WildTurtle. Kinda sucks because the way season 3 is structured nearly everyone who didn't make it into season 3 is probably done with league professionally. Like no point in trying when you have to compete against teams that are salaried to do nothing but practice. Maybe some of them will try for come backs in season 4 but that's a pretty huge uphill battle.

Yeah that was really quite shocking - one hell of an upset.

There's some kind of up/down match ~halfway through the season where they can get in, though - it doesn't have to wait all the way till season 4. But they'd have to stay (mostly) together, I think...

Sad DNG didn't get in either - they had some amazing games (Those shen taunts!)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 14 2013 22:16 GMT
#2888
On January 15 2013 06:55 gtrsrs wrote:
No words

Except grats to ecco and heartbeattt




your team can still make it next time, your guys allready have good teamfihting, which is hard to achieve.
Mostly lvl 1s and laning made your life hard, which is easier to catch up with.

well, and that baron was the nerves, doesnt count.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
January 14 2013 22:18 GMT
#2889
A lot of the teams that didn't make it have either broken up already or will probably break up. I'm sure Nien and WildTurtle will form new teams if they keep playing 'cause those two guys are both solid. I mean, they weren't good enough to make it so they don't deserve to compete. Just kinda sucks that there team in particular is disbanded as I generally would root for them at NA events.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 22:31:31
January 14 2013 22:31 GMT
#2890
i would not be sad to not see cloud 9 ever again, dont need people like them representing NA. its bad enough that we are already behind, but to have douchers like them representing our server? no thanks. all it does it further the stereotype that we are immature morons
I come in for the scraps
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 14 2013 22:31 GMT
#2891
Nien will find a team, no worries. If I was a manager, I'd solicit him as soon as I read his tweet. :O
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 14 2013 22:37 GMT
#2892
On January 15 2013 07:16 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 06:55 gtrsrs wrote:
No words

Except grats to ecco and heartbeattt




your team can still make it next time, your guys allready have good teamfihting, which is hard to achieve.
Mostly lvl 1s and laning made your life hard, which is easier to catch up with.

well, and that baron was the nerves, doesnt count.

As bitter as I was after the hype from the semi-finals, it definitely felt like the nerves and I hope DNG will stick around. They showed a big potential and I'd expect them to be able to beat several of the currently salaried teams (namely Marn, GGU and Brunch Club) if they managed to make up for their current early/laning weakness and keep improving overall. I hope they'll be around for the mid-season promotion chance.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 14 2013 22:42 GMT
#2893
Thank you for your support alaric
I do have a plan for the team and we'll get in during the up/down tourney

I wrote a few pages about my trip while here at the airport but decided not to post it
I have a lot of negative feelings about a lot of things in the trip but overall 10/10, and riot is the best company in the world, and if you have any questions, ask me anything
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
January 14 2013 22:44 GMT
#2894
On January 15 2013 07:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Thank you for your support alaric
I do have a plan for the team and we'll get in during the up/down tourney

I wrote a few pages about my trip while here at the airport but decided not to post it
I have a lot of negative feelings about a lot of things in the trip but overall 10/10, and riot is the best company in the world, and if you have any questions, ask me anything


What were the negative things about your trip.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 14 2013 22:48 GMT
#2895
Nerves, urgot, Marn the person not the team, some things I learned about myself, LA traffic, elo sluts, the amateur attitude of most teams/managers, not getting to go to the beach
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 14 2013 22:53 GMT
#2896
On January 15 2013 07:48 gtrsrs wrote:
Nerves, urgot, Marn the person not the team, some things I learned about myself, LA traffic, elo sluts, the amateur attitude of most teams/managers, not getting to go to the beach


Well if it's any positive Jatt said really good things about you live on air and DNG showed real promise. Sure you guys will make it through the mid season thingy
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 14 2013 22:56 GMT
#2897
Yes jatt is a sweetheart
now if only he would remember my name
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 14 2013 23:08 GMT
#2898
On January 15 2013 07:48 gtrsrs wrote:
Nerves, urgot, Marn the person not the team, some things I learned about myself, LA traffic, elo sluts, the amateur attitude of most teams/managers, not getting to go to the beach

What about the positives?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14190 Posts
January 14 2013 23:18 GMT
#2899
On January 15 2013 07:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Thank you for your support alaric
I do have a plan for the team and we'll get in during the up/down tourney

I wrote a few pages about my trip while here at the airport but decided not to post it
I have a lot of negative feelings about a lot of things in the trip but overall 10/10, and riot is the best company in the world, and if you have any questions, ask me anything

What kind of keyboard and mice did they have for the players or did you have to bring your own?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 23:32:22
January 14 2013 23:30 GMT
#2900
On January 15 2013 07:37 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 07:16 LaNague wrote:
On January 15 2013 06:55 gtrsrs wrote:
No words

Except grats to ecco and heartbeattt




your team can still make it next time, your guys allready have good teamfihting, which is hard to achieve.
Mostly lvl 1s and laning made your life hard, which is easier to catch up with.

well, and that baron was the nerves, doesnt count.

As bitter as I was after the hype from the semi-finals, it definitely felt like the nerves and I hope DNG will stick around. They showed a big potential and I'd expect them to be able to beat several of the currently salaried teams (namely Marn, GGU and Brunch Club) if they managed to make up for their current early/laning weakness and keep improving overall. I hope they'll be around for the mid-season promotion chance.

Agreed. They were the one team that didn't make it but really looked strong enough to compete. A lot of other teams that didn't make it felt straight up outclassed (including some teams that made it out of groups, like Azure.) or relying entirely on "win lane win game" with relatively poor teamwork. DNG had the teamwork, and only barely got edged out.

I feel like they could get some popularity streaming (especially if cris cleans up his attitude >.>) so I hope they stay together, maybe compete in some non-S3 stuff, and show up at the Up-downs with ferocity.
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