[IPL] IPL5 Discussion - Page 358
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Strong play by fnatic, well deserved win. | ||
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Gator
United States3432 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:17 MooMooMugi wrote: TPA's defeat is all on Lilballz and Mistake, those guys really got to pick up their game because the only games they win are when Stanley split pushes well or Bebe gets super farmed and 1v5's late game I would argue that part of it is how aggressive tempo-carrying mids have more or less rediscovered themselves after Worlds. Honestly speaking, if you have a passive farming mid against a ganking mid, the jungler that's carrying the tempo for the farming mid's team is going to be 100% outganked by the ganking mid once he comes online. This isn't something that Ballz can do something about because Diana or Eve coming out mid will have more levels, more farm, and more damage than you. The onus is on the other mid laner to express their stronger laning and greater teamfight presence, and on the whole these defensive, teamfight mids haven't been able to do that unless the big guns of teamfight mids (Ori, Anivia) have been left open for them. This isn't a problem that's exclusive to just Toyz. In general, the passive farming mids this tournament have not put up a good showing, particularly when the big game-changer passive mid champs are out of the pool. On December 03 2012 08:20 WirelessWaffle wrote: Soaz doesn't evolve Q, cool. This shouldn't surprise anyone. The Q evolution is by far the least practical for teamfighting. It's only really good for solo kills, but those are going to be rare in a competitive setting. The W evolution has been the most common first choice for quite a while now. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
So funny first game of the tournament will also be the last | ||
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fcgog
United Kingdom876 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
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On December 03 2012 08:19 onlywonderboy wrote: I guess we shouldn't be that surprised TPA looked kinda of inconsistent. Despite winning Season 2 they have had this stigma for a while, there's a reason everyone had them ranked so low in any power rankings you saw before the WC. Also Fnatic player really well all tournament. That said, in WE we trust! The reason I placed TPA was because they were in a slump before Worlds, and history has shown that it's hard for teams to get out of slumps. There were signs they could break that slump and I ignored it and therefore wrote an inaccurate article. That being said, Fnatic played very well and showed they did their homework. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Assassin comp seems to be the bane of TPA. I guess it makes sense since assassins like small skirmishes, which TPA's style plays right into due to Stanley preferring to splitpush. Not to mention Lilballz tendency to be super under-farmed makes him free food for high damage champs. | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote: Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them? He got the aoe then wings. Not sure what his last one was. | ||
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OreoBoi
Canada1639 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote: Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them? Looks like w first, e second, r last | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9137 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: The reason I placed TPA was because they were in a slump before Worlds, and history has shown that it's hard for teams to get out of slumps. There were signs they could break that slump and I ignored it and therefore wrote an inaccurate article. That being said, Fnatic played very well and showed they did their homework. Worlds would have gone very differently if people were able to scout TPA. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote: Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them? W first, then E. The choice between Q and R is kinda situational imo, but iirc the other time Soaz picked up Kha against TPA he went Q for the final evolution. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:20 WirelessWaffle wrote: Soaz doesn't evolve Q, cool. W best then E | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chicane wrote: Wait why does Fnatic need 3? Is it a bo3, and then if Fnatic wins it is just a bo1? Bo5 with 1 game advantage for WE from what I've read here. So WE needs to win 2 games, Fnatic 3. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chicane wrote: Wait why does Fnatic need 3? Is it a bo3, and then if Fnatic wins it is just a bo1? WE needs to win two... Fnatic needs to win 3 | ||
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