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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#7141
Yeah fnatic vs WE is the best finals possible, they've just been absolutely by far the two best teams this tournament.
Glorious SEA doto
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
December 02 2012 23:20 GMT
#7142
Soaz doesn't evolve Q, cool.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7143
That's the problem with being #1, everyone does their HW. Now everyone knows how to deal with TPA, do what Fnatic does.

Strong play by fnatic, well deserved win.
liftlift > tsm
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7144
hatperson i hatechu
TSM
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 23:23:51
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7145
On December 03 2012 08:17 MooMooMugi wrote:
TPA's defeat is all on Lilballz and Mistake, those guys really got to pick up their game because the only games they win are when Stanley split pushes well or Bebe gets super farmed and 1v5's late game

I would argue that part of it is how aggressive tempo-carrying mids have more or less rediscovered themselves after Worlds.

Honestly speaking, if you have a passive farming mid against a ganking mid, the jungler that's carrying the tempo for the farming mid's team is going to be 100% outganked by the ganking mid once he comes online. This isn't something that Ballz can do something about because Diana or Eve coming out mid will have more levels, more farm, and more damage than you. The onus is on the other mid laner to express their stronger laning and greater teamfight presence, and on the whole these defensive, teamfight mids haven't been able to do that unless the big guns of teamfight mids (Ori, Anivia) have been left open for them.

This isn't a problem that's exclusive to just Toyz. In general, the passive farming mids this tournament have not put up a good showing, particularly when the big game-changer passive mid champs are out of the pool.

On December 03 2012 08:20 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Soaz doesn't evolve Q, cool.

This shouldn't surprise anyone. The Q evolution is by far the least practical for teamfighting. It's only really good for solo kills, but those are going to be rare in a competitive setting.

The W evolution has been the most common first choice for quite a while now.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7146
G fucking g fnatic

So funny first game of the tournament will also be the last
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7147
fnatics play is so fun to watch when they get rolling
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7148
On December 03 2012 08:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
I guess we shouldn't be that surprised TPA looked kinda of inconsistent. Despite winning Season 2 they have had this stigma for a while, there's a reason everyone had them ranked so low in any power rankings you saw before the WC. Also Fnatic player really well all tournament. That said, in WE we trust!

The reason I placed TPA was because they were in a slump before Worlds, and history has shown that it's hard for teams to get out of slumps. There were signs they could break that slump and I ignored it and therefore wrote an inaccurate article.

That being said, Fnatic played very well and showed they did their homework.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7149
Fnatic is a pleasure to watch because not only do they play well, they actually draft well too I feel. Too many teams just discard the drafting phase where as you can see how much pressure TPA is under just because of fnatics drafting.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7150
Bo5 with a 1 game advantage is fair. I think making one team win two Bo3 series is too much.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 02 2012 23:21 GMT
#7151
Wait why does Fnatic need 3? Is it a bo3, and then if Fnatic wins it is just a bo1?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 02 2012 23:22 GMT
#7152
Not bad Fnatic.

Assassin comp seems to be the bane of TPA. I guess it makes sense since assassins like small skirmishes, which TPA's style plays right into due to Stanley preferring to splitpush. Not to mention Lilballz tendency to be super under-farmed makes him free food for high damage champs.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 02 2012 23:22 GMT
#7153
Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them?
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#7154
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote:
Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them?


He got the aoe then wings. Not sure what his last one was.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
December 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#7155
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote:
Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them?


Looks like w first, e second, r last
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
December 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#7156
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 08:19 onlywonderboy wrote:
I guess we shouldn't be that surprised TPA looked kinda of inconsistent. Despite winning Season 2 they have had this stigma for a while, there's a reason everyone had them ranked so low in any power rankings you saw before the WC. Also Fnatic player really well all tournament. That said, in WE we trust!

The reason I placed TPA was because they were in a slump before Worlds, and history has shown that it's hard for teams to get out of slumps. There were signs they could break that slump and I ignored it and therefore wrote an inaccurate article.

That being said, Fnatic played very well and showed they did their homework.

Worlds would have gone very differently if people were able to scout TPA.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#7157
On December 03 2012 08:22 petered wrote:
Did anyone see what Soaz's evolutions were on Kha? I only caught the end of the game, but it looked like he had E,W, and R. Does anyone know the order he got them?

W first, then E. The choice between Q and R is kinda situational imo, but iirc the other time Soaz picked up Kha against TPA he went Q for the final evolution.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#7158
On December 03 2012 08:20 WirelessWaffle wrote:
Soaz doesn't evolve Q, cool.

W best then E
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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#7159
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chicane wrote:
Wait why does Fnatic need 3? Is it a bo3, and then if Fnatic wins it is just a bo1?


Bo5 with 1 game advantage for WE from what I've read here. So WE needs to win 2 games, Fnatic 3.
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
December 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#7160
On December 03 2012 08:21 Chicane wrote:
Wait why does Fnatic need 3? Is it a bo3, and then if Fnatic wins it is just a bo1?


WE needs to win two... Fnatic needs to win 3
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