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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:23 nennx wrote: this tournament has really made me realize how bad league has become in season 2 Care to elaborate? I'm curious what you feel stands out as bad. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 Badboyrune wrote: pete didnt get shutdown, he shut himself down Eu also never puts any effort into actually making room for Pete to farm, so he more or less always has to fend for himself (or at least, Froggen and Wickd always develop themselves over protecting Pete). | ||
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TheSinisterRed
United States1546 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 Badboyrune wrote: pete didnt get shutdown, he shut himself down Pretty much this. I don't get how it could happen other than he is just not very good at CSing. Either that or Bebe is just really good at harassing/pushing people out of lane. And I don't see how Froggen farming like crazy is a factor when pete is always down cs while it is still the laning phase. Later on in the game it could be a factor but it is more than just Froggen taking a lot of farm. | ||
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darkcloud8282
Canada776 Posts
not to mention stanley, bebe and toyz outfarmed CLG eu when CLG decided to play passive all game in game2 despite having an early lead. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 Badboyrune wrote: pete didnt get shutdown, he shut himself down The fuck? I dont get these posts. He was like 40 cs behind, whats so dramatic about that? Wickd was 80 cs behind on a champion that has way worse late game than his laning opponent. He did nothing. | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 TheSinisterRed wrote: Pretty much this. I don't get how it could happen other than he is just not very good at CSing. Either that or Bebe is just really good at harassing/pushing people out of lane. When they laned against each other Pete had the same farm as Bebe. Whats up with these nonsense posts? Some kind of weird cycle jerk? | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9135 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 TheYango wrote: Eu also never puts any effort into actually making room for Pete to farm, so he more or less always has to fend for himself (or at least, Froggen and Wickd always develop themselves over protecting Pete). This is clearly CLG EU's biggest issue. Can't believe everyone else here is praising Froggen and berating Pete. Also Wickd not learning Rengar screwed them in champion select. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:26 onlywonderboy wrote: Someone posted about this recently, a lot of people complain about his ult, but honesty his defile damage plus the passive is what is most OP about him. He should just do reduced damage in his ghost form or something. He's only been nerfed about a dozen times. It's called don't teamfight over the dead Karthus. That's anti-Karthus 101. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: It's not Pete's fault per se; he's less skilled individually than a lot of ADs, but it's also cause Froggen is basically a scumbag lol. Exactly. Getting fed as an AD isn't a one-man show. ADs get farmed because their teams help them, and Pete's team doesn't. Froggen's absolutely the worst about this because he hogs farm way harder than he should even when the teamcomp dictates Pete getting everything (Lee mid, Kog AD). I have no clue what world you and Froggen are living in if you think it's normal for Lee to have more CS than Kog and be the one to get to farm pushed sidelanes. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:29 Redox wrote: When they laned against each other Pete had the same farm as Bebe. Whats up with these nonsense posts? Some kind of weird cycle jerk? that's not true pete comes out behind in cs against pretty much every single lane he plays lol | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
EDIT: Also I agree, pete is weaker than other AD's, but it's not by that big of a margin. What really happens is froggen is #1, wickd #2(unless playing malphite), and pete #3 for farm priority. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 TheYango wrote: Eu also never puts any effort into actually making room for Pete to farm, so he more or less always has to fend for himself (or at least, Froggen and Wickd always develop themselves over protecting Pete). Yeah, I think it is this. From what I have been watching alot of teams leave minions for the AD's to get when, roaming, grouping etc. CLG.eu doesn't seem to do this, especially with Krepo on Zyra(lol). The power of split pushing has been really shown today, rengar espeically but, also Nidalee, cho(tank baron 25 mins easy) and Shen ofc. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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yazu
United States255 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:30 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: that's not true pete comes out behind in cs against pretty much every single lane he plays lol If I wasnt so lazy I would do screenshots next time. Its after CLG groups up Pete falls behind. The last games it was when CLG went when CLG went for dragon. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:32 MooMooMugi wrote: Pete + Krepo in general is typically a defensive lane when vs. equal or better teams, they dont really snowball ahead unless Snoopeh camps their lane hard and even so they still fall behind in cs probably because of mechanics Ok, he falls maybe 30 CS behind because of poor laning/mechanics. So we can blame Froggen for the other 100. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:33 TheYango wrote: Ok, he falls maybe 30 CS behind because of poor laning/mechanics. So we can blame Froggen for the other 100. Yeah its sad but true, Froggen hogs a lot of the team's farm for the most cs in the game but when he does nothing with the extra gold income the team just falls apart G_G | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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