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On December 02 2012 05:41 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
I agree that Fizz is viable too. I think it's because only Tabzz knows how actually to play him.
This 100%, whenever i see Tabzz play Fizz, he really makes plays that show how well he understands how much damage he can take and how much he can deal.
Really makes Fizz look godly.
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On December 02 2012 05:51 justiceknight wrote: gragas top viable??
Gragas is an excellent 1v2 lane, and in that Crs.na comp, you can give him blue (purple side only)
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On December 02 2012 05:49 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:46 c.Deadly wrote:On December 02 2012 05:41 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 05:32 HazMat wrote:On December 02 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote: I'd say that all in all there are probably <20 champs that shouldn't see competitive play, period.
The other ~80 all about comfort, playstyles, and drafting intelligently. By and large people saying champs are bad are totally misjudging them. I think 20 is a bit too much. I'm thinking: Sejuani Zed Tryndamere Volibear Talon Karma Leblanc Rammus Fiora Galio (unless CLG support Galio makes a comeback? Though Loco still needs to learn regular supports so doubt it) Brand Then there's really situational picks but I don't think it's fair to say they shouldn't see competitive play, hell look at the recent AP Yi, GP, and Nasus picks. Heimer AP Master Yi Gankplank AD Sion Nasus Mordekaiser Poppy Fizz gets a special placement because he's viable but no one plays him, at least in my opinion. Swain probably also goes somewhere in the second list. I agree that Fizz is viable too. I think it's because only Tabzz knows how actually to play him. Noticed Syndra is absent from the list, opinions on her? That's 'cause he forgot her, which should tell you about where he'd put her. 
I think Syndra is a niche counterpick against Orianna. Niche counterpicks are really not viable for competitive play.
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Nooooooo first EU team out
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Malunoo was melting way too fast, that Blasting Wand didn't help him at all. I don't think trying to finish Abyssal was a good decision.
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On December 02 2012 05:53 icemanzdoinwork wrote:That was a pure 1v2 lane pick. He played it game 2 as well and did very well against Jax. Pretty sure that was just him not knowing how to play the matchup, though. Still, Gragas is a great 1v2 pick, and the burst combo with Kat to get a reset was amazing in those teamfights.
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@CrsCop first time ashe yolo
He's kidding? Right?...
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fnatic vs. CLG starting on stream 2
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Lol, everyone from group C is eliminated.
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On December 02 2012 05:46 c.Deadly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:41 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 05:32 HazMat wrote:On December 02 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote: I'd say that all in all there are probably <20 champs that shouldn't see competitive play, period.
The other ~80 all about comfort, playstyles, and drafting intelligently. By and large people saying champs are bad are totally misjudging them. I think 20 is a bit too much. I'm thinking: Sejuani Zed Tryndamere Volibear Talon Karma Leblanc Rammus Fiora Galio (unless CLG support Galio makes a comeback? Though Loco still needs to learn regular supports so doubt it) Brand Then there's really situational picks but I don't think it's fair to say they shouldn't see competitive play, hell look at the recent AP Yi, GP, and Nasus picks. Heimer AP Master Yi Gankplank AD Sion Nasus Mordekaiser Poppy Fizz gets a special placement because he's viable but no one plays him, at least in my opinion. Swain probably also goes somewhere in the second list. I agree that Fizz is viable too. I think it's because only Tabzz knows how actually to play him. Noticed Syndra is absent from the list, opinions on her? Haven't played her at all (pre/post release) so take what I say with a healthy dose of salt. I think one of her problems is that Orianna does a lot of what Syndra wants to do, but is more straightforward about it and has slightly more utility as well as execution of her combos and stuff as well. She's def viable though I'd say.
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On December 02 2012 05:54 onlywonderboy wrote:He's kidding? Right?...
It's an ad.Like if you are a dedicated ad professional player it really shouldn't matter which ad you pick(unless it has special mechanics which ashe doesn't).
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On December 02 2012 05:56 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:54 onlywonderboy wrote:@CrsCop first time ashe yolo He's kidding? Right?... It's an ad.Like if you are a dedicated ad professional player it really shouldn't matter which ad you pick(unless it has special mechanics which ashe doesn't). He hit those arrows like it was second nature, but then again, maybe that was beginners luck after all haha.
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who is casting the CLG game? jatt and redbaron?
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WE vs CLG.eu or Fnatic vs CLG.na
Choices choices... ;_;
EDIT: Fuck this, I'm not going to put up watching an interview with a guy having a twitching leg.
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On December 02 2012 05:57 Woony wrote: who is casting the CLG game? jatt and redbaron? Tom and Baron.
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On December 02 2012 05:58 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:57 Woony wrote: who is casting the CLG game? jatt and redbaron? Tom and Baron.
who is tom lol
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On December 02 2012 05:48 Vlanitak wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:41 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:On December 02 2012 05:32 HazMat wrote:On December 02 2012 05:18 TheYango wrote: I'd say that all in all there are probably <20 champs that shouldn't see competitive play, period.
The other ~80 all about comfort, playstyles, and drafting intelligently. By and large people saying champs are bad are totally misjudging them. I think 20 is a bit too much. I'm thinking: Sejuani Zed Tryndamere Volibear Talon Karma Leblanc Rammus Fiora Galio (unless CLG support Galio makes a comeback? Though Loco still needs to learn regular supports so doubt it) Brand Then there's really situational picks but I don't think it's fair to say they shouldn't see competitive play, hell look at the recent AP Yi, GP, and Nasus picks. Heimer AP Master Yi Gankplank AD Sion Nasus Mordekaiser Poppy Fizz gets a special placement because he's viable but no one plays him, at least in my opinion. Swain probably also goes somewhere in the second list. I agree that Fizz is viable too. I think it's because only Tabzz knows how actually to play him. Could we not say that Karma would go on the 2nd line aswell? Seeing as SGS have their own comp built around having her in midlane together with a shield heavy team (didnt work in IPL it seems, but they took a game of TPA in the GPL finals with it, and a stronger mechanical team would probably have even more success with it). I also recall YTJM (old WE jungler) telling me, back when they were in Korea for OGN, that Sejuani was the most broken jungler in competitive play. Then again their might be a reason he isnt on WE anymore I'm hesitant to place Karma anywhere given the up-coming changes to her since that will change things quite a lot. But if you had to place the current Karma somewhere, then yeah probably second list. She needs a someone who can go all-in for her Mantra-Shield though, as well as someone who can provide extra damage since she's really limited by her manta CDs.
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Did someone say that no one plays Galio?
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Dunno what fnatic is thinking, picking Sona/Kog into an early/midgame comp by CLG.NA. Hope they're prepared.
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On December 02 2012 05:54 HeroHenry wrote: Lol, everyone from group C is eliminated. I was going to say yesterday how CLGs had the easiest group because group B's loser's bracket teams were the only ones to both get eliminated in the first round of LB.
Looks like I have to retract that statement, lol.
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