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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 01 2012 01:14 GMT
#2941
On December 01 2012 10:13 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:11 TheYango wrote:
Toyz is like the complete opposite of Misaya, lol.

Toyz: mechanically clean, good laning and teamfight execution; strong on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, weak on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Misaya: mechanically sloppy at times, weaker at laning and teamfighting but very good gank sense, map movement, and control of the tempo; weak on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, strong on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Toyz playing TF here is like the equivalent of Misaya's sloppy Orianna play at Worlds.

Yea, Toyz picks made no sense to me. I'm not sure why they didn't pick up Karthus for Toyz and instead went for TF/Diana.


Karthus into Kat/Bug would have been suicide I think. Second game not sure what pick/ban order was.

Yea, Karthus G1 would've been suicide. But G2 they banned out Kat.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 01:15:49
December 01 2012 01:15 GMT
#2942
Ye but then xPeke picks up Diana and same thing happens? xPeke is real good on Kat/Diana/Kass etc.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2012 01:15 GMT
#2943
On December 01 2012 10:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:13 Numy wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:11 TheYango wrote:
Toyz is like the complete opposite of Misaya, lol.

Toyz: mechanically clean, good laning and teamfight execution; strong on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, weak on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Misaya: mechanically sloppy at times, weaker at laning and teamfighting but very good gank sense, map movement, and control of the tempo; weak on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, strong on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Toyz playing TF here is like the equivalent of Misaya's sloppy Orianna play at Worlds.

Yea, Toyz picks made no sense to me. I'm not sure why they didn't pick up Karthus for Toyz and instead went for TF/Diana.


Karthus into Kat/Bug would have been suicide I think. Second game not sure what pick/ban order was.

Yea, Karthus G1 would've been suicide. But G2 they banned out Kat.

Kassadin. Nobody picks it, but it would have been very powerful had they taken Karthus, and it's still one of xPeke's signature champs.
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
December 01 2012 01:16 GMT
#2944
On December 01 2012 10:12 DanielZKlein wrote:
xPeke - Spanish
nRated - German
Cyanide - Finnish
sOAZ - French
Rekkles - Swedish

On a scale from 1 to Phreak when Teemo gets picked, how hard are you fanboying right now?
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
December 01 2012 01:16 GMT
#2945
On December 01 2012 10:09 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:08 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:06 Azarkon wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:06 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:01 HazMat wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:00 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 09:58 Azarkon wrote:
Fnatic best team in the tournament? 2-0 TPA...

Lol, not even close.

Fnatic isn't even doing objectives as they should be. TPA is just playing like crap. WE and Blaze >> Fnatic.

Really? Blaze >> Fnatic? LOL.
Have you watched this tournament or?
WE > Fnatic I can agree with that.

Blaze has one tilt game against Fnatic and what? Fnatic won't beat any well-organised mid/late-game team.


TPA isn't a well organized mid / late game team? How fast things change...

TPA is strongest early/mid-game, courtesy of Lilballz. Always has been, since 2011.



They lost early to mid versus M5, and came back mid/late. Stop saying bullshit pls.

TPA is still strongest in early/mid-game, at least in comparison to teams like WE and Blaze. which are pretty even (with WE slightly favouring late-game and Blaze slightly favouring early-game). TPA fucked up in the mid-game against Fnatic, which actually wasn't all that rare before the World Championships especially when Lilballz starts derping in the skirmish stage. At WCs, their lanes actually played brilliantly, especially Toyz who played uncharacteristically well, outside of lane for once (except game 1 of the finals). WC TPA was a beast early/mid/late-game, but I guess I always saw that as a fluke somewhat and expected the normal TPA here.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
December 01 2012 01:17 GMT
#2946
On December 01 2012 10:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:12 DanielZKlein wrote:
xPeke - Spanish
nRated - German
Cyanide - Finnish
sOAZ - French
Rekkles - Swedish

On a scale from 1 to Phreak when Teemo gets picked, how hard are you fanboying right now?


lol
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 01 2012 01:18 GMT
#2947
Stream one returns just in time for some kpop.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 01:21:05
December 01 2012 01:18 GMT
#2948
On December 01 2012 10:15 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:14 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:13 Numy wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:12 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:11 TheYango wrote:
Toyz is like the complete opposite of Misaya, lol.

Toyz: mechanically clean, good laning and teamfight execution; strong on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, weak on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Misaya: mechanically sloppy at times, weaker at laning and teamfighting but very good gank sense, map movement, and control of the tempo; weak on defensive, mid-lategame teamfight oriented mids, strong on aggressive tempo-carrying mids

Toyz playing TF here is like the equivalent of Misaya's sloppy Orianna play at Worlds.

Yea, Toyz picks made no sense to me. I'm not sure why they didn't pick up Karthus for Toyz and instead went for TF/Diana.


Karthus into Kat/Bug would have been suicide I think. Second game not sure what pick/ban order was.

Yea, Karthus G1 would've been suicide. But G2 they banned out Kat.

Kassadin. Nobody picks it, but it would have been very powerful had they taken Karthus, and it's still one of xPeke's signature champs.

I can't remember all the bans, but honestly I think for G2 they should've banned out Kat and Diana isntead of banning Kat and picking Diana. TPA were forced to fp Diana to keep it away from xPeke, which ended up backfiring since Toyz made some really stupid moves on Diana.

Regardless, I feel that TPA's losses both games were more attributed to the fact that they threw away their early game advantages and essentially fed Vayne. Both games Rekkles was hilariously behind in cs/exp, but due to TPA's bad decisions and Fnatic playing from behind very well, Rekkles was able to get really fed really fast.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
December 01 2012 01:19 GMT
#2949
Guess Europe>Asia>Na
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
December 01 2012 01:19 GMT
#2950
Well, Rekkles is certainly mature about that win

http://www.facebook.com/Rekkles1?ref=ts&fref=ts
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 01:22:55
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#2951
On December 01 2012 10:16 1ntrigue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:09 Sponkz wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:08 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:06 Azarkon wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:06 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:01 HazMat wrote:
On December 01 2012 10:00 1ntrigue wrote:
On December 01 2012 09:58 Azarkon wrote:
Fnatic best team in the tournament? 2-0 TPA...

Lol, not even close.

Fnatic isn't even doing objectives as they should be. TPA is just playing like crap. WE and Blaze >> Fnatic.

Really? Blaze >> Fnatic? LOL.
Have you watched this tournament or?
WE > Fnatic I can agree with that.

Blaze has one tilt game against Fnatic and what? Fnatic won't beat any well-organised mid/late-game team.


TPA isn't a well organized mid / late game team? How fast things change...

TPA is strongest early/mid-game, courtesy of Lilballz. Always has been, since 2011.



They lost early to mid versus M5, and came back mid/late. Stop saying bullshit pls.

TPA is still strongest in early/mid-game, at least in comparison to teams like WE and Blaze. which are pretty even (with WE slightly favouring late-game and Blaze slightly favouring early-game). TPA fucked up in the mid-game against Fnatic, which actually wasn't all that rare before the World Championships especially when Lilballz starts derping in the skirmish stage. At WCs, their lanes actually played brilliantly, especially Toyz who played uncharacteristically well, outside of lane for once (except game 1 of the finals). WC TPA was a beast early/mid/late-game, but I guess I always saw that as a fluke somewhat and expected the normal TPA here.

At World Champs TPA also had the advantage of being able to play more in their comfort zone because teams didn't know what to ban against them. Now that they've been on the radar and teams are more aware of they want, it's harder for them to always have picks that perfectly fit their playstyle.

It's not exactly news that Toyz is awkward on tempo-carrying mids. It's just that at Worlds, that weakness was covered up by the fact that the defensive mids were strong, but at the same time often left in the pool.
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DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#2952
On December 01 2012 10:16 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 10:12 DanielZKlein wrote:
xPeke - Spanish
nRated - German
Cyanide - Finnish
sOAZ - French
Rekkles - Swedish

On a scale from 1 to Phreak when Teemo gets picked, how hard are you fanboying right now?


Phreak when Teemo gets jungled with multiple Trinity Forces.
My modesty is awesome.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#2953
On December 01 2012 10:19 triangle wrote:
Well, Rekkles is certainly mature about that win

http://www.facebook.com/Rekkles1?ref=ts&fref=ts


well what would you do if you were 16 and just beat the best team in the world loll
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 01 2012 01:20 GMT
#2954
On December 01 2012 10:19 triangle wrote:
Well, Rekkles is certainly mature about that win

http://www.facebook.com/Rekkles1?ref=ts&fref=ts


He's 16 man. That's like most mature thing a 16 year old would do in this situation :>
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
December 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#2955
WTF IS THIS SONG LOL
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
December 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#2956
does anybody have any updates on CLG vs. Curse? Stream is still down.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 01:22:24
December 01 2012 01:21 GMT
#2957
On December 01 2012 10:19 skykh wrote:
Guess Europe>Asia>Na

Do we really need to rank regions after every match?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#2958
I have a feeling this song isn't really about icecream.
Cackle™
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
December 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#2959
LOL Rekkles looks like a smug little prick. That pic of him with a UMAD caption would be too good.
emraaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany505 Posts
December 01 2012 01:22 GMT
#2960
On December 01 2012 10:22 TheKefka wrote:
I have a feeling this song isn't really about icecream.

lol
Sure as the dust that floats high and true, when movin through kashmir
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