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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#2221
On December 01 2012 04:01 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:57 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.


Example of overrating right here.


How is that overrating? The skill gap really isn't that big. Yes, TPA and Blaze are probably going to win more games but that doesn't mean that the NA teams can't have a good day and win. It's not BW.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#2222
On December 01 2012 04:01 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
Phreak has gotten really entertaining as a caster, imo.

Tankier teams seem to be kind of on the stronger side lately, especially in games like that where they don't last too long. I think if Jax and Twitch had gotten more time to get farmed and they'd kept an eye on Lee (who just got to have free reign of everything), that would have been a wildly different game.

That said, Fear got stomped rightly, I don't think they're good enough to pull off the types of games they want to play.


Phreak and Jatt are a pretty good combo. I was pretty impressed yesterday, especially as at one point Phreak humbly accepted he was wrong about something when Jatt corrected him.

Deman and Joe are still the best though.

Also, my bracket predictions:

[image loading]


Crs.eu over TPA? 0o
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 19:03 GMT
#2223
Or if CLG wins and then curse na beats curse eu and then fnatic/whatever. assuming clg.na loses to TPA, of course.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#2224
Am I the only one that doesn't really care about NA vs EU vs KR vs CN vs others? I root for teams, not regions. I'm not sure why we always have to roll things up to what regions suck and what regions don't suck. Personally, I'm just as happy rooting for TPA or M5 or CLG.EU or Azubu as I am for TSM or Crs or CLG.NA.

As for TSM, it was just a year ago they were getting washed out of IEM's and everyone said they were a disaster. Then they got a manager and had a resurgence. Then they picked up Dyrus and lost their manager and everyone though they'd be terrible, but they got even better. Good enough that some people thought they would win it all at World's. But, the team is young and undisciplined and didn't practice effectively (and often times not at all for weeks). It is no surprise they are bad again. They may never recover from it this time, but they are capable of getting back there.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 30 2012 19:04 GMT
#2225
Didnt Aphromo got like 15 kills yesterday with Ez? Lets see how Fear do in this 2nd game!
Terran
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 19:05 GMT
#2226
On December 01 2012 04:01 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:49 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:45 arb wrote:
I think Rhux is a pretty decent support for Curse.NA tbh.

A lot of people are starting to realize that he seems to be an improvement over Elementz. I can't say I blame everyone's apprehension though, the idea of someone winning a 1v1 tournament who mains top lane taking over the support position from a pro with tons of experience (regardless of his skill level) sounds pretty out there.

i was certain that this would be how rhux would play and get received as soon as i heard of his acceptance into crs. He has far more talent than elementz, but being an unknown only the more open minded of crs fans would look beyond his initial seemingly few differences will elementz to look at his greater skill objectively. I think he'll be recognized as a superior support in time but his lack of personality relatively speaking means it will take him some time to become a fan favorite.

Yeah, personality is so important in gaining NA acceptance, just look at Maknoon. In addition to being really good everyone loves him because of his personality.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 19:08:19
November 30 2012 19:05 GMT
#2227
LOL Forgot it's bo3 already, still hoping for a MP win because of Pobelter xD

also I just read this on reddit but is it true that Reginal left the game yesterday against MP after he saw Pobelter pick Riven mid, with the excuse that he wants to buy a skin butmost likely just created a new runepage against bruiser mid? Dick move if it's true, since you can buy skins in champselect T.T

On December 01 2012 04:04 Takkara wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't really care about NA vs EU vs KR vs CN vs others? I root for teams, not regions. I'm not sure why we always have to roll things up to what regions suck and what regions don't suck. Personally, I'm just as happy rooting for TPA or M5 or CLG.EU or Azubu as I am for TSM or Crs or CLG.NA.

As for TSM, it was just a year ago they were getting washed out of IEM's and everyone said they were a disaster. Then they got a manager and had a resurgence. Then they picked up Dyrus and lost their manager and everyone though they'd be terrible, but they got even better. Good enough that some people thought they would win it all at World's. But, the team is young and undisciplined and didn't practice effectively (and often times not at all for weeks). It is no surprise they are bad again. They may never recover from it this time, but they are capable of getting back there.


difference is that the competition has has become way more international, who kicked their asses @ IEM? right euros.
for the last 8month they've been playing exclusively NA Lans but then who kicked their asses again? Asians and Euros.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 19:07:18
November 30 2012 19:05 GMT
#2228
lol
curse eu beating clg.na? Okay. I get what you're coming from, they're fairly unknown(by unknown i guess i mean inconsistent. wins easily tales of the lane then doesnt get from groupstage at dreamhack? lol.) and from what we've seen CLG na has disappointed while they played rather well. But beating TPA? lol.
I'd definitely watch the fuck out of some fnatic vs CLG prime, though.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#2229
On December 01 2012 04:03 OutlaW- wrote:
Or if CLG wins and then curse na beats curse eu and then fnatic/whatever. assuming clg.na loses to TPA, of course.


Lol CLG.na vs TPA. That would be something too. Lilballz' revenge on his old team and on jiji h4h4h4.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#2230
Jungle Rengar? WAT
Platinum Support GOD
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 30 2012 19:06 GMT
#2231
On December 01 2012 04:03 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:01 cascades wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:57 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.


Example of overrating right here.


How is that overrating? The skill gap really isn't that big. Yes, TPA and Blaze are probably going to win more games but that doesn't mean that the NA teams can't have a good day and win. It's not BW.

I actually think it's easier for weaker players to upset the stronger ones in BW. Much harder in a MOBA like this imo. Having said that it's not overrating to think NA teams might be able to take at least 1 game on a good day. Hell team Iceland gave CLG.EU a hard time yesterday. In the end it's still a competition and anything is possible (though not probable).
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
November 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#2232
Meanwhile, Saintvicious on jungle Rengar on the other stream.

Awww, Lemongod gives up first blood :/
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 19:08:03
November 30 2012 19:07 GMT
#2233
On December 01 2012 04:06 MattBarry wrote:
Jungle Rengar? WAT


Jungle rengar can be pretty good, but he really slow early on D:

THE THROWS.

TD takes 2 kills at lvl 1.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
November 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#2234
On December 01 2012 04:06 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:03 Woony wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:01 cascades wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:57 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.


Example of overrating right here.


How is that overrating? The skill gap really isn't that big. Yes, TPA and Blaze are probably going to win more games but that doesn't mean that the NA teams can't have a good day and win. It's not BW.

I actually think it's easier for weaker players to upset the stronger ones in BW. Much harder in a MOBA like this imo. Having said that it's not overrating to think NA teams might be able to take at least 1 game on a good day. Hell team Iceland gave CLG.EU a hard time yesterday. In the end it's still a competition and anything is possible (though not probable).

Just because a team isn't well known doesn't mean said team is bad. Iceland could have just as well beat CLG.eu and all that would mean is that they played better than them.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#2235
On December 01 2012 04:06 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 04:03 Woony wrote:
On December 01 2012 04:01 cascades wrote:
On December 01 2012 03:57 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.


Example of overrating right here.


How is that overrating? The skill gap really isn't that big. Yes, TPA and Blaze are probably going to win more games but that doesn't mean that the NA teams can't have a good day and win. It's not BW.

I actually think it's easier for weaker players to upset the stronger ones in BW. Much harder in a MOBA like this imo. Having said that it's not overrating to think NA teams might be able to take at least 1 game on a good day. Hell team Iceland gave CLG.EU a hard time yesterday. In the end it's still a competition and anything is possible (though not probable).


I mean BW in terms of foreigners vs. koreans
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#2236
I wasn't paying attention to the Curse invade. Did Voyboy not lead the facecheck on the tribrush with the Elise E?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
November 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#2237
I like this Katarina + Diana picks from TD it seems awesome on paper.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 30 2012 19:09 GMT
#2238
I don't really get FeaR's comp. Aphro (while a bit overrated) is rather obviously their best or at least better player, but they don't have a comp to take advantage of that. They have 3 diving champs (Jax/Olaf/Diana), and while Lulu can protect Ez and he's slippery, they're really kind of hoping that Aphro isn't going to get dived himself and die.

But at least their invade worked this time, they really banked a lot on that in game one and it didn't turn out too well.
It's your boy Guzma!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 30 2012 19:10 GMT
#2239
On December 01 2012 04:09 Requizen wrote:
I don't really get FeaR's comp. Aphro (while a bit overrated) is rather obviously their best or at least better player, but they don't have a comp to take advantage of that. They have 3 diving champs (Jax/Olaf/Diana), and while Lulu can protect Ez and he's slippery, they're really kind of hoping that Aphro isn't going to get dived himself and die.

But at least their invade worked this time, they really banked a lot on that in game one and it didn't turn out too well.


Except Aphro isn't their best player :/

Xmithie/Mancloud > Aphro > Zuna > Muffinqt.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 19:11 GMT
#2240
On December 01 2012 04:04 Takkara wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't really care about NA vs EU vs KR vs CN vs others? I root for teams, not regions. I'm not sure why we always have to roll things up to what regions suck and what regions don't suck. Personally, I'm just as happy rooting for TPA or M5 or CLG.EU or Azubu as I am for TSM or Crs or CLG.NA.

As for TSM, it was just a year ago they were getting washed out of IEM's and everyone said they were a disaster. Then they got a manager and had a resurgence. Then they picked up Dyrus and lost their manager and everyone though they'd be terrible, but they got even better. Good enough that some people thought they would win it all at World's. But, the team is young and undisciplined and didn't practice effectively (and often times not at all for weeks). It is no surprise they are bad again. They may never recover from it this time, but they are capable of getting back there.

This argument gets brought up all of the time, it's like the people what stopped watching the World Championships when all the teams they knew were eliminated. Some people lose interest if their favorite teams get eliminated (which happen to be NA teams) and thus don't like the foreign teams that dominate since they are directly responsible for making them not care about tournaments anymore. I know that's not everyone, but I see that sentiment a lot.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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