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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9213 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#2201
On December 01 2012 03:51 arb wrote:
Maybe after this tournament people will stop bitching when you don't ban morgana.

People do that? I never see Morgana banned in EUW.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#2202
Phreak has gotten really entertaining as a caster, imo.

Tankier teams seem to be kind of on the stronger side lately, especially in games like that where they don't last too long. I think if Jax and Twitch had gotten more time to get farmed and they'd kept an eye on Lee (who just got to have free reign of everything), that would have been a wildly different game.

That said, Fear got stomped rightly, I don't think they're good enough to pull off the types of games they want to play.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#2203
Besides the most hardcore TSM fans, I'm pretty sure most of us have caught on to how weak NA teams are by now in comparison to the world, so I wouldn't say these teams are overrated.

Also gogogo Crs! Show the world that you can stomp fellow NA teams just like TSM and CLG!
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
November 30 2012 18:53 GMT
#2204
On December 01 2012 03:46 AsnSensation wrote:
and there goes Aphro's fear top 3 prediction xD

really digging the atmosphere, cheering to wardkills is gonna be a running gag all season long, especially if deman is casting.


Fear's not dead yet. These are best-of-3 matches now.
Zero fighting.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 30 2012 18:55 GMT
#2205
Interesting. A betting commercial for IPL. I guess it's in Vegas hahha.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#2206
On December 01 2012 03:51 arb wrote:
Maybe after this tournament people will stop bitching when you don't ban morgana.

Nyjacky Morgana is definitely ban worthy. In any case, if anyone knew how to beat Morgana hard, it's Nyjacky being that he knows her so well
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#2207
On December 01 2012 03:53 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:46 AsnSensation wrote:
and there goes Aphro's fear top 3 prediction xD

really digging the atmosphere, cheering to wardkills is gonna be a running gag all season long, especially if deman is casting.


Fear's not dead yet. These are best-of-3 matches now.

Also what do you expect the guy to do. It's not the right to way come into a competition thinking you're gonna be raped by everyone, even if that's what is likely to happen.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#2208
On December 01 2012 03:53 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:51 arb wrote:
Maybe after this tournament people will stop bitching when you don't ban morgana.

People do that? I never see Morgana banned in EUW.


Think it depends what your ELO is.
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jgoonld
Profile Joined November 2010
334 Posts
November 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#2209
On December 01 2012 03:53 Slow Motion wrote:
Besides the most hardcore TSM fans, I'm pretty sure most of us have caught on to how weak NA teams are by now in comparison to the world, so I wouldn't say these teams are overrated.

Also gogogo Crs! Show the world that you can stomp fellow NA teams just like TSM and CLG!


Pretty much. Any dig fans that consistently watch them are more surprised when they manage not to throw a game from an early lead than when they do (I know I am). The teams are probably still overrated by the people who don't watch the asian or EU scenes at all, but for anyone who's keeping track of tournaments, NA teams definitely aren't rated highly.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
November 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#2210
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
November 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#2211
On December 01 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
Phreak has gotten really entertaining as a caster, imo.

Tankier teams seem to be kind of on the stronger side lately, especially in games like that where they don't last too long. I think if Jax and Twitch had gotten more time to get farmed and they'd kept an eye on Lee (who just got to have free reign of everything), that would have been a wildly different game.

That said, Fear got stomped rightly, I don't think they're good enough to pull off the types of games they want to play.

While I wouldn't state it in absolute terms myself, I agree with sentiment... which sucks, cause I love rooting for underdog teams with the potential for upsets... it's just a problem when they play with a mindset like they are clear favorites, when they're really not. Still love fear tho, hoping they can pull out the 2-1... and then show an entertaining couple of games vs M5.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#2212
On December 01 2012 03:53 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:50 OutlaW- wrote:
overrated by who? tell me how you judge a team being overrated. im pretty sure the only team in NA being overrated is fear, which is gonna stop after this tournament unless they suddenly win 6 games.]
edit: curse are definitely stronger than TSM right now and maybe stronger than dignitas, too.


People still tend to rank Curse behind TSM, Dig and CLG.NA though.

Things will be fun when Curse manages to win vs CLG.NA in a major tournament. I'd love to see that happen, just for the drama.

You might get your wish, if I'm reading the bracket right, if CLG loses to Curse.Eu and Curse beats TD they will play in the second round of the losers bracket.
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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 19:03:28
November 30 2012 19:00 GMT
#2213
FeaR vs Meat Playground G2

MP bans: Katarina, Rengar, Shen
FeaR bans: Blitzcrank, Malphite, Nunu

MP picks: Lee Sin, Caitlyn + Zyra, Cho'Gath + Vladimir
FeaR picks: Diana + Lulu, Olaf + Ezreal, Jax
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 30 2012 19:00 GMT
#2214
wtf all are BO3??????????????? gonna slp .....
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 19:02:03
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2215
On December 01 2012 03:53 Requizen wrote:
Phreak has gotten really entertaining as a caster, imo.

Tankier teams seem to be kind of on the stronger side lately, especially in games like that where they don't last too long. I think if Jax and Twitch had gotten more time to get farmed and they'd kept an eye on Lee (who just got to have free reign of everything), that would have been a wildly different game.

That said, Fear got stomped rightly, I don't think they're good enough to pull off the types of games they want to play.


Phreak and Jatt are a pretty good combo. I was pretty impressed yesterday, especially as at one point Phreak humbly accepted he was wrong about something when Jatt corrected him.

Deman and Joe are still the best though.

Also, my bracket predictions:

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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2216
FeaR maybe got some humility now, they're picking a far more conservative lineup.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2217
Lulu feels like the strongest support right now.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2218
Curious what are the stats on champions like Lulu/Diana/Lee Sin.

Apparently yesterday, out of 21 games, Lee Sin was either banned/picked 19 times, and Diana was picked/banned ALL 21 times.
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2219
On December 01 2012 03:57 Woony wrote:
Honestly I think it's even gotten to the point where people underrate NA teams. If they have a good day the top 4 can still take a game of any team.


Example of overrating right here.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 30 2012 19:01 GMT
#2220
On December 01 2012 03:49 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:45 arb wrote:
I think Rhux is a pretty decent support for Curse.NA tbh.

A lot of people are starting to realize that he seems to be an improvement over Elementz. I can't say I blame everyone's apprehension though, the idea of someone winning a 1v1 tournament who mains top lane taking over the support position from a pro with tons of experience (regardless of his skill level) sounds pretty out there.

i was certain that this would be how rhux would play and get received as soon as i heard of his acceptance into crs. He has far more talent than elementz, but being an unknown only the more open minded of crs fans would look beyond his initial seemingly few differences will elementz to look at his greater skill objectively. I think he'll be recognized as a superior support in time but his lack of personality relatively speaking means it will take him some time to become a fan favorite.
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