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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
October 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#7721
On October 07 2012 05:24 EquilasH wrote:
Man, I don't understand why people bash Snoopeh for his accent - I fucking love it!


yeah im french and i understand everything he is saying ^^
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
October 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#7722
On October 07 2012 05:22 StateAlchemist wrote:
I think krepo got inspired by Xiaoxiao's fantastic leona plays


xD lol dat ice burn
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
October 06 2012 20:26 GMT
#7723
On October 07 2012 05:20 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:16 Jamial wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:16 henrikyo wrote:
Seems weird. CLG.eu is known for having so good communication in team fights, they were all over the place that game

nerves?


Froggen missing easy q's on creeps with no pressure. Hell yeah nerves.

I think they are overall not that good at the moment.
They were at the top of their game in Korea. If one followed them it became noticable that they somewhat started slacking after Korea.

Since their loss in the finals in Korea it has been like that (after owning 2-0, they got cocky and lost 3 games in a row in rly bad fashion). Froggen has been somewhat in a slump and well they have the tendency to go to teamfight oriented teams instead of early dominance teams even though they are rly good individually and could win lanes
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7724
Does anyone else think it's a pretty horrible strategy to only watch the other teams games a bit because it makes you nervous? I don't understand, much more developed professional leagues like the NFL watch game film like it's their life blood and all you hear is how much it helps to know what your opponent is going to do in certain formations/positions etc. I don't know, that just sounded like poor logic to me.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7725
On October 07 2012 05:23 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:21 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
i missed most of the game, did clg get bopped?

They were doing alright until the teamfights started happening. Then they lost pretty much every teamfight. Held on for a while, but the gap just kept getting bigger after each teamfight.

It started before that. CLG had a great level 1 with buff steals, but every lane was down in farm. This went on until team fights started, but that didn't go any better.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7726
to be really blunt other than showing the mechanical skill to cs, Froggen has looked really bad in this tournament. And really in this level of a tournament a lot of the discrepancy mid is cs that would go to your jungler if you weren't taking it (i.e. not a sign of skill) the big thing is despite soaking up so much of his teams gold he hasn't really carried, even the game where he 2 shot the ad carry with dfg+q karth, the game was 100% over and the ad was that weak because bot won, not because of his cs.

idk I wouldn't be surprised if I'm alone on this but it's what I'm seeing.
Carrilord has arrived.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7727
On October 07 2012 05:25 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
I wasn't that impressed with Misaya tbh. Toyz Ori was more boomboompow.

But it didn't matter. Olaf and Graves were so good that game.

I mean the thing to keep in mind is the context. Toyz got fed to 4-0 because of Ballz (3 ganks middle + Ballz sacrificing himself for 2 kills at Najin's blue), while Misaya was basically 100% forced into passive laning because ClearLove had no presence after getting so behind. It's much easier and more comfortable to play Ori from that 4-0 start.

Also, ssong is probably the weak link on Sword, while Froggen is Froggen.


I always thought weak link on TPA was Toyz. More inconsistent than the rest. (Besides Stanley's 1v2 prowess)


Really? I've always been a Toyz fan haha he makes huge plays man.
TranslatorBaa!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7728
On October 07 2012 05:26 trollbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:24 EquilasH wrote:
Man, I don't understand why people bash Snoopeh for his accent - I fucking love it!


yeah im french and i understand everything he is saying ^^

its a joke because Riot subtitled him
Off-season = best season
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7729
On October 07 2012 05:26 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:22 StateAlchemist wrote:
I think krepo got inspired by Xiaoxiao's fantastic leona plays


xD lol dat ice burn


hahaha awesome
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 20:28:43
October 06 2012 20:27 GMT
#7730
These Asians are pretty troublesome people,they don't stand in defile,flash your malphite,dash leonas ults and don't waste exhausts.
One could say they use their brains
Cackle™
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
October 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#7731
On October 07 2012 05:27 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:26 trollbone wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:24 EquilasH wrote:
Man, I don't understand why people bash Snoopeh for his accent - I fucking love it!


yeah im french and i understand everything he is saying ^^

its a joke because Riot subtitled him


I know it's a joke, but I've still heard a lot of people say that his accent is annoying etc. - but it sounds so badass.
wat
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#7732
On October 07 2012 05:23 Glaceau wrote:
can wickd play anything except irelia?

like actually well?

Renekton and Jayce come to mind.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 06 2012 20:28 GMT
#7733
On October 07 2012 05:25 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
I wasn't that impressed with Misaya tbh. Toyz Ori was more boomboompow.

But it didn't matter. Olaf and Graves were so good that game.

I mean the thing to keep in mind is the context. Toyz got fed to 4-0 because of Ballz (3 ganks middle + Ballz sacrificing himself for 2 kills at Najin's blue), while Misaya was basically 100% forced into passive laning because ClearLove had no presence after getting so behind. It's much easier and more comfortable to play Ori from that 4-0 start.

Also, ssong is probably the weak link on Sword, while Froggen is Froggen.


I always thought weak link on TPA was Toyz. More inconsistent than the rest. (Besides Stanley's 1v2 prowess)


Usually, yes. But Toyz brought his S game yesterday.

And no criticism on WE, they were definitely more on page as a team than CLG (fkkkk Krepo). Comparing the Oris because it's fun. Most successful AP this weekend imoimo.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#7734
On October 07 2012 05:27 TheKefka wrote:
These Asians are pretty troublesome people,they don't stand in defile,flash your malphite,dash leonas ults and don't waste exhausts.


Stuff on the ground the biggest killers in games.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#7735
On October 07 2012 05:28 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:23 Glaceau wrote:
can wickd play anything except irelia?

like actually well?

Renekton and Jayce come to mind.


Rumble
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 20:30:17
October 06 2012 20:29 GMT
#7736
On October 07 2012 05:27 Slusher wrote:
to be really blunt other than showing the mechanical skill to cs, Froggen has looked really bad in this tournament. And really in this level of a tournament a lot of the discrepancy mid is cs that would go to your jungler if you weren't taking it (i.e. not a sign of skill) the big thing is despite soaking up so much of his teams gold he hasn't really carried, even the game where he 2 shot the ad carry with dfg+q karth, the game was 100% over and the ad was that weak because bot won, not because of his cs.

idk I wouldn't be surprised if I'm alone on this but it's what I'm seeing.

Froggen plays Karthus all the time. A champ that doesnt suit his strengths at all. They just play it because they think the champion is so strong.
I really hope Froggen picks something different now (Orianna or Ahri).

edit: And Wickd Renekton.
Off-season = best season
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#7737
On October 07 2012 05:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:25 cascades wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:23 TheYango wrote:
On October 07 2012 05:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
I wasn't that impressed with Misaya tbh. Toyz Ori was more boomboompow.

But it didn't matter. Olaf and Graves were so good that game.

I mean the thing to keep in mind is the context. Toyz got fed to 4-0 because of Ballz (3 ganks middle + Ballz sacrificing himself for 2 kills at Najin's blue), while Misaya was basically 100% forced into passive laning because ClearLove had no presence after getting so behind. It's much easier and more comfortable to play Ori from that 4-0 start.

Also, ssong is probably the weak link on Sword, while Froggen is Froggen.


I always thought weak link on TPA was Toyz. More inconsistent than the rest. (Besides Stanley's 1v2 prowess)


Usually, yes. But Toyz brought his S game yesterday.

And no criticism on WE, they were definitely more on page as a team than CLG (fkkkk Krepo). Comparing the Oris because it's fun. Most successful AP this weekend imoimo.


I'm personally just glad to see no Ahris. Ahri useless champion imo :>

Krepo wasn't really on the same page, but I think there were also a LOT of times where Wickd got hooked in what was most likely a mistake by blitz, and instead of turning it around, he'd immediately waste flash to run away...Thought that was a really questionable point of CLG EU's play.
TranslatorBaa!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 20:31:00
October 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#7738
On October 07 2012 05:27 TheKefka wrote:
These Asians are pretty troublesome people,they don't stand in defile,flash your malphite,dash leonas ults and don't waste exhausts.
One could say they use their brains

Most of it is mechanics, not really brain usage.

Buwahahaha, misaya absorbing 2 bans.


HOOOOOOOK CITY MOTHERFUCKER! FZZF
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#7739
On October 07 2012 05:27 TheKefka wrote:
These Asians are pretty troublesome people,they don't stand in defile,flash your malphite,dash leonas ults and don't waste exhausts.
One could say they use their brains

I do hate it when those Asians have the audacity to play well it's disgusting someone should do something about it it's simply not fair riot needs to ban that.
Glorious SEA doto
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 06 2012 20:30 GMT
#7740
On October 07 2012 05:29 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 05:27 Slusher wrote:
to be really blunt other than showing the mechanical skill to cs, Froggen has looked really bad in this tournament. And really in this level of a tournament a lot of the discrepancy mid is cs that would go to your jungler if you weren't taking it (i.e. not a sign of skill) the big thing is despite soaking up so much of his teams gold he hasn't really carried, even the game where he 2 shot the ad carry with dfg+q karth, the game was 100% over and the ad was that weak because bot won, not because of his cs.

idk I wouldn't be surprised if I'm alone on this but it's what I'm seeing.

Froggen plays Karthus all the time. A champ that doesnt suit his strengths at all. They just play it because they think the champion is so strong.
I really hope Froggen picks something different now (Orianna or Ahri).


What? Karthus is 100% suited to Froggen, and more importantly, CLGeu's playstyle. It's just stand in lane and farm and hypercarry late game while team stalls 4v5. Assist with ult in skirmishes and just get big...

It's like the standard CLG EU's play.
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