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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 19:34:35
October 05 2012 19:33 GMT
#4721
Xin vs yorik?

D: Wonder how well he will do

Edit: nvm lol
Snitches get stiches
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4722
On October 06 2012 04:28 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:23 romanov wrote:
On October 06 2012 04:20 Aando wrote:
For someone that havent played or followed the scene the last 6 months; how has the meta changed and which champs are "op"/standard atm?

Top: Bruiser or AP like rumble or Vlad
Jungle: Aggresive like shyv or Mundo or Tanky Support like Maokai and Nautilus
Mid: AP Carry
Bot: AD + Support

Swapping Top and bottom lane to get an advantage is seen a lot nowadays. Lot's of aggresive play popularized by the korean's to. Would say "OP" champs are Sona (mostly because of Ez i think) Ezreal, Jayce, Vlad, Eve
Edit: Forgot Ali under OP

For someone that knows only dota, what is this AP and AD? In dota the roles are support and carry, and that's it. Are there more roles in LoL?


AP is generally equivalent to the midgame tempo hero while the AD is more lategame oriented, but the major difference is that the AP does mostly magic damage through abilities while the AD does physical damage through auto attacks. APs tend to vary a lot though, some like Karthus or Cass actually do a lot of damage over time while others do a lot more burst damage. ADs also have a similar scope of variety though when most people refer to ADs they're not talking about AD assassins like Talon and are instead referring to ranged AD autoattack carries.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4723
Alex Ich taking 2 of the wraiths.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4724
iG goes for the laneswap.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4725
wtf he didnt know that eve q doesnt go over to red? :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4726
On October 06 2012 04:28 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:23 romanov wrote:
On October 06 2012 04:20 Aando wrote:
For someone that havent played or followed the scene the last 6 months; how has the meta changed and which champs are "op"/standard atm?

Top: Bruiser or AP like rumble or Vlad
Jungle: Aggresive like shyv or Mundo or Tanky Support like Maokai and Nautilus
Mid: AP Carry
Bot: AD + Support

Swapping Top and bottom lane to get an advantage is seen a lot nowadays. Lot's of aggresive play popularized by the korean's to. Would say "OP" champs are Sona (mostly because of Ez i think) Ezreal, Jayce, Vlad, Eve
Edit: Forgot Ali under OP

For someone that knows only dota, what is this AP and AD? In dota the roles are support and carry, and that's it. Are there more roles in LoL?


In LoL skills can scale with your attack damage (AD), or ability power (AP), meaning that your skills get better effect the more You have AP or AD.

AD rise with levels (but different on different heros, ithems, runes and masteries.
AP the same but not with levels.
AP carry means a character that concatrate on rising his ap statiscs (and obviously some oare better to do this some worse). In current meta those kind of characters are played mainly in mid (sometimes top).
AD carry exactly the same but with AD, in current meta played mainly on bot.
Pathetic Greta hater.
romanov
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands892 Posts
October 05 2012 19:34 GMT
#4727
Hmmm Yorick will outfarm Xin in the 2v1 but letting kog freefarm is def a risk
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 19:35:10
October 05 2012 19:35 GMT
#4728
How I survive Phreak (and the S2 finals)...

here

Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 05 2012 19:35 GMT
#4729
Btw, Darien still hasn't picked a skill yet.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
October 05 2012 19:35 GMT
#4730
HOLY SHIT
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
October 05 2012 19:35 GMT
#4731
That timing
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
October 05 2012 19:35 GMT
#4732
iG baited that really well
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4733
red pot?
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4734
On October 06 2012 04:32 CatharsisUT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 04:28 nokz88 wrote:
On October 06 2012 04:23 romanov wrote:
On October 06 2012 04:20 Aando wrote:
For someone that havent played or followed the scene the last 6 months; how has the meta changed and which champs are "op"/standard atm?

Top: Bruiser or AP like rumble or Vlad
Jungle: Aggresive like shyv or Mundo or Tanky Support like Maokai and Nautilus
Mid: AP Carry
Bot: AD + Support

Swapping Top and bottom lane to get an advantage is seen a lot nowadays. Lot's of aggresive play popularized by the korean's to. Would say "OP" champs are Sona (mostly because of Ez i think) Ezreal, Jayce, Vlad, Eve
Edit: Forgot Ali under OP

For someone that knows only dota, what is this AP and AD? In dota the roles are support and carry, and that's it. Are there more roles in LoL?


In LoL, there are items that increase physical damage and items that increase spell damage. That leads to a split between "Ability Power" carries and "Attack Damage" carries. Generally you want to have both so that it is harder for the other team to itemize defense (magic resist vs. armor).

Now that's a very interesting mechanic that adds complexity to the game. I like.

great answer. Thanks a lot.
in a state of trance
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4735
On October 06 2012 04:35 Kronen wrote:
How I survive Phreak (and the S2 finals)...

here



How I survive it:

http://nl.twitch.tv/ogn_lol

I don't understand Korean, but the casting is still better than Phrivington.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4736
not picking a skill in lane till you need it is common.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4737
hahahah that fail
Snitches get stiches
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4738
HOW IS THIS GUY A PROFESSIONAL PLAYER

WHAT THE FUCK LOL
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4739
wow leona screwed that up. take turret aggro np
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Leonite7
Profile Joined July 2011
Ireland921 Posts
October 05 2012 19:36 GMT
#4740
Lawl XiaoXiao tanked turret for nothing.
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