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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#4101
People, you gotta keep in mind that TSM's schedule for practice is much more rigorous and effective than the other NA teams. I for one expect them to put up a great fight against Frost.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#4102
On October 05 2012 13:14 Slusher wrote:
literally m5 is the only favorite of all the quater finalists with a bye, and even their game will be close, it's no wonder iG was so dissapointed.


Maybe they can make an arrangement with M5 where they both send their DotA teams instead.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#4103
On October 05 2012 13:15 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 13:12 Slusher wrote:
there are no statistical tiebreakers, all ties will be played out, it's pretty clearly stated in the OP and on leaguepedia

Does that include determining placements for e.g. 10th vs 11th place since there is a reward difference?

Thast exactly what he was trying to say. And yes, Leaguepedia says that, too.

But oh well we are debating something that wont happen anyway.
Off-season = best season
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
October 05 2012 04:17 GMT
#4104
On October 05 2012 13:16 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 13:14 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On October 05 2012 13:12 yazu wrote:
Well I hope TSM gets slammed tomorrow so the entire NA scene realizes how bad they are. Then maybe we won't have joke teams.

You're right. The best way for a scene to grow, get sponsors, etc. is embarrassment and failure.


The NA teams are spoiled (Curse, CLG, TSM) compare their teamhouses to them Koreans. Compare their dedication to them Koreans.

Ps; I do realise IG is a billionare dollar team with a freaking insane teamhouse, but they're chinese they have some sick dedication to :D


Afaik Chinese LoL teams have practice schedules similar to Korean teams
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 04:19:39
October 05 2012 04:19 GMT
#4105
oops sorry double post
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 04:22:38
October 05 2012 04:19 GMT
#4106
On October 05 2012 13:12 yazu wrote:
Well I hope TSM gets slammed tomorrow so the entire NA scene realizes how bad they are. Then maybe we won't have joke teams.

i wouldn't call them joke teams. More like good-but-not-great teams. Losing to asian teams ≠ being bad.

Btw, Lol world championships (nicknamed 'loldcup' by koreans, which is a portmaneau of lol world cup) is ranked 1st on naver's search ranking, korean equivalent of google.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#4107
first pick ez, I really wanted to see QT's Draven, word on the street is it's better than Aphro's
Carrilord has arrived.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 04:21:40
October 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#4108
On October 05 2012 13:17 3 Lions wrote:
People, you gotta keep in mind that TSM's schedule for practice is much more rigorous and effective than the other NA teams. I for one expect them to put up a great fight against Frost.

Curse was TSM's practice partner for the last days. And SaintVicious said they went pretty even against TSM although they are not at their best at the moment. He didnt think too much of TSM's play.
(watch Travis interview with SV)
Off-season = best season
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 05 2012 04:21 GMT
#4109
On October 05 2012 13:19 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 13:12 yazu wrote:
Well I hope TSM gets slammed tomorrow so the entire NA scene realizes how bad they are. Then maybe we won't have joke teams.

i wouldn't call them joke teams. More like good-but-not-great teams. Losing to asian teams ≠ being bad.



I'm hoping teams from around the world remain relevant. Much better for us spectator. (we can cheer for something ^^)
But again, with Riot's tournaments format, the NA and EU (but EU will probably remain relevant) will always get seedings into the worlds.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
October 05 2012 04:22 GMT
#4110
Lol go to sleep at 5 my time. Wake up and see the the show is still going on lmao
Sad for SK
End my suffering
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
October 05 2012 04:23 GMT
#4111
On October 05 2012 13:16 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 13:14 GeorgeForeman wrote:
On October 05 2012 13:12 yazu wrote:
Well I hope TSM gets slammed tomorrow so the entire NA scene realizes how bad they are. Then maybe we won't have joke teams.

You're right. The best way for a scene to grow, get sponsors, etc. is embarrassment and failure.


The NA teams are spoiled (Curse, CLG, TSM) compare their teamhouses to them Koreans. Compare their dedication to them Koreans.

Ps; I do realise IG is a billionare dollar team with a freaking insane teamhouse, but they're chinese they have some sick dedication to :D

Yeah, this too. NA teams get some much stuff just being in NA. While Asian teams(which are much better than NA teams)esp SEA teams has like no big tourney at all to play, thus get so much less attention.
Lets say you put TPA, SGS or even SAJ in the NA scene, don't even mention Frost, Blaze or Najin...
Terran
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2012 04:25 GMT
#4112
zzz this Sword comp way too standard
Carrilord has arrived.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 05 2012 04:25 GMT
#4113
On October 05 2012 13:16 Kouda wrote:
Anyone noticing Deman is just mumbling at certain points? Like he gets quieter and a bit incoherent.


Time difference + casting all day = sleepy, sleepy commentators
whole lies with a half smile
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
October 05 2012 04:26 GMT
#4114
90% aspd buff is dps gain compared to other ad carries because all their aspd buffs are lower with more uptime. If you insist that the fight is going to last longer than seven seconds then I have no ground to stand on.


I actually just checked it and you are correct Tristanas dmg is pretty high (lower then kogmaws/vayne but not by much) assuming 4 items and 2.5k hp/170 Armor. And yes fights often last longer than seven seconds (I played a lot of kogmaw and the 8s there is really hard to play around with aswell but obviously a Trist without Q is more usefull than a Kogmaw without W)
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 05 2012 04:26 GMT
#4115
Wow, ruthless toplane gank at lvl 1 >.<
liftlift > tsm
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
October 05 2012 04:27 GMT
#4116
Man.... Crumbz.... Man....
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
October 05 2012 04:27 GMT
#4117
Again crumbzz? Really?
qtiehunter
Profile Joined August 2012
1088 Posts
October 05 2012 04:27 GMT
#4118
not a good start for dig :>
RIP KT.Violet
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 04:27:33
October 05 2012 04:27 GMT
#4119
Having watched some SEA tournaments, NA teams are definitely better by and large. CLG.EU and M5 are the only good European teams right now. There's a lot more top and up-and-coming teams in NA than in EU and SEA.

Korea / China are what you want to keep an eye on.
twitch.tv/cratonz
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
October 05 2012 04:27 GMT
#4120
Well actually I kind of want TSM to win just to basically have an NA team to root for but then again I wonder if them losing would be a better impact for the NA scene as a whole.
g.cuisine
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