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Keep the rage to a minimum. This includes wait times between games, music, and balance.

Fair warning to all.
TheSinisterRed
Profile Joined September 2012
United States1546 Posts
October 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#3881
Haha, so much trolling on the support players. I am really liking these short videos they are showing in between games. Very good production quality that is adding a lot to the whole event.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#3882
On October 05 2012 12:24 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:18 QuakerOats wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:16 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On October 05 2012 12:11 Slow Motion wrote:
NA players get too much money from streaming.

when i've seen scrims streamed there isn't a huge drop in viewers or anything. at this point it's not about keeping strats secret. they need to grind out tons of scrims just to raise their level of play in general. that won't be giving anything away if they stream it. they can still work on some secret shit off stream too


Yeah I don't get why so many teams don't want to stream their scrims. What exactly was CLGna trying to hide by keeping their scrims secret? They did the same thing everyone expected them to do in this tournament, nothing special at all.

yup. and spending time watching opponent's streams in order to get a one-up on them for the next tournament is a very risky move. it takes up a lot of time that might be used for practice instead. and it's also a huge guessing game. the more you watch, the less of a guessing game it is, but then you're wasting so much time on researching just one team and it's still a guess in the end.

streaming scrims all day will get you better results than streaming solo queue all day, even if every team watched every minute of your stream.


Also if they worried about having their thought process analysed they can just mute comms post game or something where they can discuss the strat.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#3883
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3884
On October 05 2012 12:24 Caphe wrote:
I still can't believe people hoping for TSM to do something. They won't. Did you guys see how bad NA teams get destroyed on their our soils? Asian teams just arrived in LA 3 days ago and they time difference is quite hardcore for Asian teams and they still beat every NA teams in a very convincing manner.

Also, where are you now Neo. How dare you laugh at me when I though SAJ is going to win against Dig .


NA regional equally convincing. Not that I think they will win, but just sayin Dig and Clg.NA looked just as bad.
Carrilord has arrived.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3885
On October 05 2012 12:24 Caphe wrote:
I still can't believe people hoping for TSM to do something. They won't. Did you guys see how bad NA teams get destroyed on their our soils? Asian teams just arrived in LA 3 days ago and they time difference is quite hardcore for Asian teams and they still beat every NA teams in a very convincing manner.

Also, where are you now Neo. How dare you laugh at me when I though SAJ is going to win against Dig .

three days is really enough time for most people. and your points really don't go together since TSM isn't playing them in asia haha

but i agree it's looking pretty grim for TSM.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 03:28:49
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3886
Brackets:

Moscow 5 vs. Invictus Gaming
Taipei Assassins/World Elite vs. Najin Sword

Team Solomid vs. Azubu Frost
Taipei Assassins/World Elite vs. CLG.eu/Saigon Jokers

Oops, mixed up Sword and the 2nd place in this group.



Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3887
what exactly is "wake up" lol... every team there for NA have been scrimming 8+ hours a day.

its not like those NA teams are being lazy...?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3888
I think the old manager of MTW Dota team basically did that. He would also be in the game with the players feeding them information to my knowledge.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3889
Why are foreign teams always only saying "we fucked up, they didnt play well"
I mean they played better and it seems like more and more foreign teams tend to "fuck up" and koreans dont. They kinda maybe should just accept that they lost, because they played worse, not because they did bad things that they would never do.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 03:28:47
October 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#3890
Nice that Madlife & Gosu Pepper are getting the support props.

I'm a sucker for an underdog story and was incredibly entertained by the last game, so GO SAIGON JOKERS!

Respect ban for Archie's Ezreal.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#3891
On October 05 2012 12:26 XenOmega wrote:
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time


isn't that the role of coaches? LoL teams have coaches right?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#3892
On October 05 2012 12:26 XenOmega wrote:
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time


You mean coaches?

TSM is better than CLG/Dig. But I don't expect them to do much against Frost. M5 and CLGeu are the only hopes of the non-Asian world.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#3893
On October 05 2012 12:27 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:24 Caphe wrote:
I still can't believe people hoping for TSM to do something. They won't. Did you guys see how bad NA teams get destroyed on their our soils? Asian teams just arrived in LA 3 days ago and they time difference is quite hardcore for Asian teams and they still beat every NA teams in a very convincing manner.

Also, where are you now Neo. How dare you laugh at me when I though SAJ is going to win against Dig .

three days is really enough time for most people. and your points really don't go together since TSM isn't playing them in asia haha

but i agree it's looking pretty grim for TSM.


Shame on you for doubting.

Nah just kidding, an Asian team gonna win it all. *coughFrostcough*
Hey! How you doin'?
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
October 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#3894
On October 05 2012 12:28 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:26 XenOmega wrote:
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time


isn't that the role of coaches? LoL teams have coaches right?

Curse does. TSM had a coach(more of a life coach really) briefly. The Koreans and Chinese do.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
October 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#3895
On October 05 2012 12:28 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:26 XenOmega wrote:
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time


isn't that the role of coaches? LoL teams have coaches right?



Probably, but some teams have assistants too I guess?
spellsy
Profile Joined October 2011
United States418 Posts
October 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#3896
On October 05 2012 12:27 Haasts wrote:
Nice to Madlife & Gosu Pepper getting the support props.

I'm a sucker for an underdog story and was incredibly entertained by the last game, so GO SAIGON JOKERS!

Respect ban for Archie's Ezreal.

they are playing really well ... i wouldnt be surprised if they beat clg . eu here!

but in all reality im pretty indifferent, both of them have been pretty boring in terms of team comps and executions, so they prob not gonna bring any extra entertainment (at least in terms of play, maybe more DRAMA!)

they aint no iG
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
October 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#3897
Well, Wickd is most likely the better top laner and i predict he will still lose hard to Jayce.

gg :-/
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 05 2012 03:30 GMT
#3898
On October 05 2012 12:28 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 12:26 XenOmega wrote:
If ESPORT turns like real sport, expect team to hire some guys/girls that will analyse opponents for the team. They make a sum up video, etc.

But I agree with Liquid'Nony, watching streams and replays of opponents can be a double-edge weapon. Its either beneficial, or a huge waste of practice time


isn't that the role of coaches? LoL teams have coaches right?

Actually, a lot of western LoL teams DON'T have coaches.

That's the weird thing
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 03:31:44
October 05 2012 03:30 GMT
#3899
Respect ban for Archie's Ezreal.

Sorry but that is probably just incorrect Ezreal is just a standart ban and I was really really confused that it was open in the last 2 games aditionally Naijin got Ezreal/sona which is the best botlane ingame

Edit:
Actually, a lot of western LoL teams DON'T have coaches.

That's the weird thing

That really depends on the team I was for example in Millenium and they had a great coach/manager. Who also has a decent knowledge about the game (hes 2k elo in solo q) I would say most teams have managers how much idea/thinking they put into the game really really depends.
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
October 05 2012 03:30 GMT
#3900
I don't play much, why is everyone banning Evelynn?
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